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    Quote Originally Posted by saxj View Post
    With a rated shackle.
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    At Augrabies a Chevy Spark got stuck in a dry river bed.

    Pulling out to the back the only "recovery point" was the tow loop.....

    I used the tow rope, NOT the snatch rope.

    As there was no place to connect the bridal, I used the sand bag over the tow rope.

    1st LR, slowly picked up the slack in the rope and then gently pulled the Chevy out.


    I WAS cautious of that tow point, but the sandbag was our only alternative.



    using a snatch rope and a lot of throttle in that case would have been asking for trouble ...

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    Can only comment on how much I learned yesterday at Kungweni.. (even if it is a bit off-topic). Got the shorty properly stuck. Luckily had the winch on the front. 'Headshot' etc was making a plan, and then I think his forum name is 'bruin beer' or something stepped in with his father.

    Everyone put their ego aside, listened to him and his dad as they whipped out the kit (I think it was a pofadder). Brought a Isuzu with recovery points on the towbar down, shackled everything together, weighed the winch cable down, opened the shorty's bonnet and once set, cleared everyone from the river bed. Only then was I allowed to tension the winch cable and was gently pulled from the offending rocks & sand.

    Now, I don't know if it was the right way to do things, so I would like to know though
    - Proper recovery points on both vehicles were used
    - Rated shackles and rope used
    - Ego's all put aside and people agreed this was the right way
    - River bed cleared of onlookers before we started the pull
    - Cable weighed down (I really liked the design of the pofadder bag)
    - Bonnet open, in case of cable snap
    - Gentle pull tried before resorting to this so called 'snatch'

    Am I missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxj View Post
    With a rated shackle.
    Eeish
    So even if your strap/rope was not long enough and you had to join two together,you would use a rated shackle?
    You must be trying to wind me up

    If thats your honest opinion,I hope never to see you do a recovery.
    In fact I'de stop you,or at least the other victim(to be)
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    Quote Originally Posted by incrediblebob View Post
    OK, I'm always willing to learn,how do you join two nylon ropes/straps together?
    Uncle Rob definately a hiding for you when I see you again....

    Quote Originally Posted by saxj View Post
    With a rated shackle.
    HAHAHA

    Maybe this clip will help a lot...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JBnxSqpuCM
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    Watched the movie,still doesn't explain why you can't do nylon to nylon?
    Isn't that what he did when joining two straps together.
    Plus the original question was what do do if no recovery points

    Safety lanyards are still better without a shackle as well-make loops.
    Plus that little bag is gonna do nufink,rather drape another strap along the length of the recovery strap,or use a big bag.NOT my swambo
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusFourie View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by incrediblebob View Post
    Eeish
    So even if your strap/rope was not long enough and you had to join two together,you would use a rated shackle?
    You must be trying to wind me up
    If thats your honest opinion,I hope never to see you do a recovery.
    In fact I'de stop you,or at least the other victim(to be)
    I read your initial description as connecting a bridle (normally used to split load between two recovery points on a vehicle) to a strap. In this situation you use a shackle (of the correct rating of course) AND a safety lanyard.

    Connecting two straps is different. In this case you would use some sort of lightweight material to prevent the two straps from binding.
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    Please help me Sir, I'm stuck", oh wait you dont have any proper recovery points??

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    While we are on the topic of recovery points, my bakkie has two towing points. Front and back.

    Can this be used to attach a tow rope? I say tow rope, because I'm nowhere near a level to even buy a snatch strap.

    And by towing I mean just taking up the slack and gently pulling. No sudden jerks or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxj View Post
    I read your initial description as connecting a bridle (normally used to split load between two recovery points on a vehicle) to a strap. In this situation you use a shackle (of the correct rating of course) AND a safety lanyard.

    Connecting two straps is different. In this case you would use some sort of lightweight material to prevent the two straps from binding.
    I'm not going to argue about this,you seem to have your own set ideas-but I don't want anybody to get the wrong info-you are saying that you attach the recovery rope/strap to the bridal with a shackle?
    That is SO wrong.

    I'm a qualified accredited instructor(US 117871),both here and in the UK and we do NOT teach your method of the use of a shackle,even when using a safety lanyard.Which, by the way are soon to be obsolete when the recovery hoses become available

    When joining two two straps/ropes together,the best thing to use is a tree protector,doubled in two,when finished just pull the one side out.Theres not always grass around in a sand or mud environment,but you should have a tree protector as part of your recovery kit(advanced off road driving course)
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    I have always been taught nylon on nylon is a no-no. It doesn't take much for nylon to cut through nylon.
    I see in another thread the same argument is raised http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...ad.php?t=39221.

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    I carry a piece of chain. The owner of the stuck 4x4 must attach it to his axel if he don't have recovery points. I have also Recovered a 4x4 forward but attached the recovery strap on the rear tow bar and thread the strap under the vehicle so it comes out the front. Worked well in beach sand. Don't know how it would work in other situations.

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