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    Guys we want to do Mozambique trip in September and I am looking for some information. Any will be welcome.

    We will be traveling Pretoria via Giriyondo gate to Massinger first day. Then we want to do the following and this is where we are really looking for some info:
    Massinger to Macarretane, to Nalazi, to Magandene, to Chigubu, to Tesenane, to Funhalouro, to Sitila, to Masinga, to Pomene.

    I got this from the Info map 1:1800 000. This route is indicated as 4x4 recommended and we will be 2 vehicles with low range, 1 high range and one 4x2 with diff lock. We are rather adventurous and would not mind a bit of struggle once in a while but would like to know if safe, drivable in one day. Trailer friendly?

    On this map there is a 4x4 route indicated from Pomene to Vilanculos anyone done this?

    Coming back we are looking to do Vilanculos to Maphinhane, to Uoteche, to Mabote, to Machaula, to S Jorge de Limpopo, Mapai ,to Pafuri. On this route are there any recommended camping spots?

    Any comments welcome.

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    Jimmie

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    Hi Jimmie,
    I have never heard of a 4x4 route from Pomen to Vilanculos and have asked some of the locals who dont know about it either.

    I would however be very keen to find out more about it, so please let me know the details.

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    Maybe Mike can help you with some info, post a note on www.mozguide.com
    Mike and BruceT has always been a valuable source of info about anything Moz.
    Regards
    Jaco

    remember to log the route with waypoints if you do go.
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    Thankyou Jaco....

    Jaco is correct. Mike on mozguide.com is proberbly your best bet....
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    [quote=Skim;81570]Guys we want to do Mozambique trip in September and I am looking for some information.

    Hi Skim. ons het verlede jaar Jun/Jul die Pafuri - Vilanculos roete gedoen. Wonderlike roete!

    Ons beplanning het ook grootliks plaasgevind op google earth met die Tracks 4 Africa overlay (www.googlearth.com). Tracks4Africa is wonderlik en baie akkuraat. Search ook op www.google.co.za vir Pafuri - Vilanculos asook Giriyondo oorgrens park en die roete tot by Vilanculos. Baie interessante leesstof. Dit sal jou ook 'n aanduiding gee oor beskikbaarheid van brandstof.

    Teenstrydighede ivm die leesstof het ons agterna besef gaan grootliks oor die toestande van die paaie wat natuurlik met die reenval te doen gehad het. Feit bly staan BLY ASB 2 AANDE OOR tussen Vilanculos en Pafuri!! Ons het net 1 aand en moes die 2de aand tot diep in die nag ry wat glad nie aanbeveel kan word nie - 14 ure gery die dag. Paaie is plek plek goed maar op ander baie sleg, en alle terreine word ondervind - sand, klei, dongas, 2x4, 4x4, klippe ens. Gemiddelde spoed volgens die GPS was 30km ph.

    Ek het baie informasie vir jou asook kontaknommers van persone wat jy kan bel oor die toestand van die paaie en die vlak van die Limpopo asook die Giriyondo roete. As jy dit wil he kan jy my e-mail by [email protected]. Ek het nog alles op rekenaar asook fotos en GPS koordinate.

    Foto hieronder is juis Limpopo kruising!
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    Hi Skim,

    Ive been asking a few locals that have lived in the Vilanculos area for years and none of them know of your route between Pomen and Vilanculos. There is also meant to be a few mangrove swamps in between.

    There is definately and alternative route from Vilanculos to Inhassoro.


    Did you have any luck finding out about it.
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    Wink Doenbaar....

    Skim, weet nou maar...daar is nie "'n pad" tussen die dorpies wat jy noem nie. Altans nie tussen die meeste van hulle nie. Daar is "paadjies"...2 spoor sand paadjies wat split en split en draaitjies maak en soms weer by mekaar aansluit & soms met 'n draai jou weer in die min of meer regte rigting kry. Party keer lyk dit asof die paadjie jou heeltemal verkeerde koers in jaag, dan is dit tog die regte pad....
    Die gps gee jou 'n aanduiding dat jy darem min of meer in die regte rigting ry...gebruik jou bread crum funksie!!

    Weet ook die volgende. Daar is genuine niks oor die binne land nie. Nie kos nie, nie diesel nie en daar is nie selfoon opvangs nie...daar is nie official kamp plekke wat die binne land betref nie...ook nie diere nie...dus jy kan maar amper enige plek slaap...ons vra gewoonlik die locals as daar in die direkte omgewing is, anners slaap ons maar net daar waar ons besluit dit mooi lyk, in die bos...

    Die 2x4 gaan defnitief 'n paar keer gesleep word, nie ver nie...maar daar is kolle wat 'n 2x4 dit nie sal maak nie...
    Moenie julle eie pad soek of maak nie...landmyne is maar iets wat ingedagte gehou moet word as jy van die pad moet afgaan....

    Glo my, dit gaan 'n lekker trip wees. Wees net goed voorberei & self sufficient.
    Ek en my vrou het 2 jaar terug van Murangulo, Massinga na Pafuri alleen gery...dit het amper sleg uit gedraai...maar ons was nie voorberei nie...dit gese, dit was 'n trip van 'n leef tyd...ons het hierdie Desember weer die pad alleen gery maar die keer was ons voorberei...

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    Volgens T4A kan jy net suid van die Pomene/Morrumgulo afdraai links draai en 'n wye draai ry oor Sitila Village en Funhalouro en weer terug na die EN1 so 12km suid van Mapinhane. Maak egter nie sin nie tensy jy dit doen net om in die bos te kom.

    Vanaf Massingir dam sal ek by Joao oor die Limpopo gaan, dan Guija, Chibabel, Chibuto, links net na Jantigua en dan by Chidenguelle by die EN1 aansluit. Dit is 'n maklike roete wat ons 2 weke terug gery het. Meeste is egter teer. Enigste alternatief wat ek kan sien is om by Joao noord te gaan, oos by die treinspoor en deur die Banhine NP waar jy dan kan 4x4 oor Funhalouro na Pomene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceT View Post
    Hi Jimmie,
    I have never heard of a 4x4 route from Pomen to Vilanculos and have asked some of the locals who dont know about it either.

    I would however be very keen to find out more about it, so please let me know the details.

    .
    How old are you all? Don't know about today, but this route existed in 1958



    Southern Mozambique - Northern Section U.S. Army Map Service 1958 Portion of Inhambane Sheet, Series 1301, SF 36 (794K) Note: This older map is one of the most detailed available.

    http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/afric...mbane_1958.jpg

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    Im 35 and have been travelling there since 1990. It could have been there in the past but is definately not there now. I would however love to be able to find the track and will do some exploring there when Im next there.

    Just out of interest. In 1997 when Blue Water Beach Resort was built there was no road from the airport south. A road had to be cut through the bush by the guys at Blue Waters. Then in 2001/2000 the council arranged for a "proper" road to be built. (This is the one that you first get to around 2kms before the T-junction in town, which has since degraded quite alot since)

    Skim please keep me in the loop on this.... Thanks.

    Coltmaster...thanks for the map. Im going to try download now. Do you have any other historical information like this on the area.... (thanks)
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    Coltmaster....

    Thankyou for the link. Some very interesting stuff there. Do you have any other links...


    Thanks again.
    BruceT
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