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    This thread is an off-shoot of the "101 reasons to visit Zambia" thread, set up specifically to organise a possible forum road trip to Zambia in 2012.

    I have taken the liberty of cutting and pasting the existing list of interested parties, below, and will provide a link in the old thread.

    Linda ("Thirstie" at Mukambi Safari Lodge, Kafue NP) is still having internet issues, so will dip into this when she can. However, in the short time I managed with her on Skype, she suggested a date for the first gathering at Mukambi of 28th June or thereabouts. The beauty of this date is that next year's SA school holidays are from 23rd of June to 15th July.

    So, for a start, can we please have comments from all those on the list as to the suitability of that rough date. In other words, will next year's school holidays suit you? Furthermore, an idea of the number of people potentially in your party would help.
    I can also tell you that McBride's Camp is available for dates around this time, and I know that Linda will be working something out with her other friends in the region at other camps. There may also be one or two surprises......I've made a suggestion or two to Linda that might be interesting if they come to anything.

    So, comments on dates, please, and anyone else interested please let me know and I'll add your name. Could I also get you to say whether you would expect to be camping, or would prefer to stay in lodges/chalets/fixed tents? Some of the camps have plenty of camping and relatively little in terms of fixed accomodation.



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    JUNE/JULY 2012

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    1. Benphala
    2. Big Off-Roader
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    4. IanG
    5. LandJero
    6. Mad Manny
    7. Moetbiedjiewegkom
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    12. SarelF and Witklipbank
    13. Swart Jan
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    12. Peter1949
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    14. Randy
    15. Stan Weakley
    16. TerryC
    17. Vnitos






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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeAG View Post
    This thread is an off-shoot of the "101 reasons to visit Zambia" thread, set up specifically to organise a possible forum road trip to Zambia in 2012.

    I have taken the liberty of cutting and pasting the existing list of interested parties, below, and will provide a link in the old thread.

    Linda ("Thirstie" at Mukambi Safari Lodge, Kafue NP) is still having internet issues, so will dip into this when she can. However, in the short time I managed with her on Skype, she suggested a date for the first gathering at Mukambi of 28th June or thereabouts. The beauty of this date is that next year's SA school holidays are from 23rd of June to 15th July.

    So, for a start, can we please have comments from all those on the list as to the suitability of that rough date. In other words, will next year's school holidays suit you? Furthermore, an idea of the number of people potentially in your party would help.

    1. Mad Manny Driving from JHB Fearless Fortuner
    2. RynoB Driving from JHB in Puma
    3. Madota F250
    4. Renier de Jong
    5. Craig Rocher Maybe
    6. Randy
    7. Fanatic
    8. SarelF and Witklipbank (Toyota Hilux 3D 4D)
    I can also tell you that McBride's Camp is available for dates around this time, and I know that Linda will be working something out with her other friends in the region at other camps. There may also be one or two surprises......I've made a suggestion or two to Linda that might be interesting if they come to anything.

    So, comments on dates, please, and anyone else interested please copy and paste the list above, and add your name. Could I also get you to say whether you would expect to be camping, or would prefer to stay in lodges/chalets/fixed tents? Some of the camps have plenty of camping and relatively little in terms of fixed accomodation.

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    Hi Mike

    As my Swambo is retiring early next near we are really interested in this trip but there is a snag.
    We are not camping people so we have the following choices:

    1. Chalets, like in self catering or fixed tents.

    2. Our age counts against us for a RTT.

    3. Buy something like the Imagine Comfort Van, would one be able to do the trip with one?

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    Hi Andre,

    There are chalets or fixed tents in all the camps in the area, and there will be no trouble securing them for our use.

    I am not familiar with all your various camping trailers, but I would make this general point about them:

    The River Road, which is just a gorgeous drive, does involve crossing 5 or 6 dry river beds which are quite steep banked. This is low-range territory. Caravans have in the past got stuck, generally because they have done a sort-of vertical jack-knife..........with the caravan on the down-slope, and the vehicle already on a steep up-slope up the opposite bank. So, have a look at your trailers/ caravans in the light of this. Having said that, if you do want to bring a tall trailer or a caravan, there is an alternative to the River Road. If we do a route up the Zambezi, as I hope, the crossing of the floodplain after the Sitoti ferry involves some reasonably testing slow driving, and a trailer will obviously be a bit more difficult to get through this area.

    Anybody who brings a trailer or caravan should be familiar with the process of recovering it, in the event that it requires un-hitching in an obstacle.

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    I would also add the following for those thinking of joining but not sure about the size of the group........

    The Kafue is a quiet, unspoilt wilderness, with no traffic, and peaceful camps. A big convoy of 10 or 15 vehicles is just not what the place is about. If we get to that sort of size, I envisage splitting the groups down to 4 or 5 vehicles at the most, and doing seperate circuits around roughly the same sort of route. The only place that can really handle the bigger numbers is Mukambi, so that would be the big meeting point, and the focus, and from there we could head off in smaller parties to the various different places in the area, on a slightly different schedule, so as not to overload any of them.

    Can I suggest that anyone who is interested in this venture please get a map of the region quickly, so that you know what we are talking about!!! I think Linda posted one a year or so back......I'll see if I can find it.

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    Mike, Jy sal vinnig moet leer Afrikaans praat.
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    Andre, kamp is nie so 'n groot probleem nie, en die lede hier op die forum sal elke aand sommer tjop tjop jou tent (CHALET) opslaan. So, moenie worrie nie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by witklipbank View Post
    Mike, Jy sal vinnig moet leer Afrikaans praat.
    It's sinking in slowly!!!
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    Thanks Mike

    Will keep track of this thread but it is early days yet and a lot of water has to flow in to the sea.

    As they say first things first. Got to recover from my kidney operation and see what mode of accommodation others will be using.

    Will be nice to represent the WC up there.
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    Mike, well done.

    Why is the Thread called 'Forum road trip to Zambia 2012' if you're flying in?

    I'm in, not geared for camping (have a fear of it - grew up so poor it was like camping).
    But as 'WhiteStoneEmbankment' said, with many on the Forum so well kitted, my issues may be moot.

    WKB, you & SarelF agreed to a merger years ago - don't blame MikeAG!

    Agree that, if group is large, we disperse & meet up from time to time.
    If it comes to it, we can, closer to the time, impose a maximum vehicle limit.

    I've already loaded T4A Zambia on the Fortuner GPS!

    1. MikeAG Flying in from England...
    2. Mad Manny + 1 Driving from Gauteng in a Fortuner
    3. RynoB + 1 Driving from Gauteng in a Puma
    4. Madota F250 + swambo Driving from Gauteng in a F250
    5. Renier + Swambo driving from Witbank in a Pajero
    6. Craig Rocher Maybe
    7. Randy + Wife n' kids Driving from Gauteng in a Prado120
    8. Fanatic + Elzette Driving from Gauteng in a sample F250
    9. SarelF and Witklipbank Driving from Delmas in a ?
    Jeez other than Mike, is there anyone going who does NOT support the Bulls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Manny View Post
    Mike, well done.Why is the Thread called 'Forum road trip to Zambia 2012' if you're flying in?
    Yebbut, once I get to Zambia I'm not planning on walking.........

    Incidentally, June/July doesn't suit my wife, so unless one of my daughters fancies a trip I'll be alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeAG View Post
    Incidentally, June/July doesn't suit my wife, so unless one of my daughters fancies a trip I'll be alone.

    Mike
    Unfortunately, June/July doesn't suit me either. June is audit month and first week of every month is out when you're in accounting. Guess I will have to force myself to take a sabbatical (spelling) year from the forum, because if you guys pull this trip off, I'll be hating each and everyone of you by the end of July next year
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    Tina,

    I don't envisage this being a convoy. Therefore, there is no absolute need to be at the same place at the same time as everyone else. I am sure we would just fit in with you guys if you came up say the 5th or 6th of July. You'd meet up with most people, somewhere along the line, and would just do things in a slightly different order. You would still have 3 weeks to get yourself back in time for your next month-end.

    Personally, I'd be disappointed if we couldn't "maak 'n plan" to meet up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Manny View Post
    Mike, well done.


    1. SarelF and Witklipbank Driving from Delmas in a ?
    Jeez other than Mike, is there anyone going who does NOT support the Bulls?
    Yes the Terracan and Blinkgat bossewa are going to stay at home because they know Africa to well now and we must teach the new baby who will arive in Feb next year all about Afrca. And i dont support the Bulls when playing against SA teams!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarelF View Post
    Yes the Terracan is going to stay at home because he know Africa to well now and we must teach the new baby who will arive in Feb next year all about Afrca. And i dont support the Bulls when playing against SA teams!
    Jeeezzz, Sarel, nou's ek vrek nuuskierig. Vertel so bietjie meer van die nuwe baba en hoekom hy/sy eers Februarie ariveer
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    Hi Mike
    I would definately be interested to come on this trip with my swambo.
    We would be coming from Jo'burg in a Puma with a RTT.
    I must say though that I would prefer a date in maybe Aug/Sept when it is NOT school holidays, would mean less traffic on the roads, but I will take whenever really
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Manny View Post
    Mike, well done.

    Why is the Thread called 'Forum road trip to Zambia 2012' if you're flying in?

    I'm in, not geared for camping (have a fear of it - grew up so poor it was like camping).
    But as 'WhiteStoneEmbankment' said, with many on the Forum so well kitted, my issues may be moot.

    WKB, you & SarelF agreed to a merger years ago - don't blame MikeAG!

    Agree that, if group is large, we disperse & meet up from time to time.
    If it comes to it, we can, closer to the time, impose a maximum vehicle limit.

    I've already loaded T4A Zambia on the Fortuner GPS!

    1. MikeAG Flying in from England...
    2. Mad Manny + 1 Driving from Gauteng in a Fortuner
    3. RynoB + 1 Driving from Gauteng in a Puma
    4. Madota F250 + swambo Driving from Gauteng in a F250
    5. Renier + Swambo driving from Witbank in a Pajero
    6. Craig Rocher Maybe
    7. Randy + Wife n' kids Driving from Gauteng in a Prado120
    8. Fanatic + Elzette Driving from Gauteng in a sample F250
    9. SarelF and Witklipbank Driving from Delmas in a ?
    10. Benphala and Susan (Swambo) in Prado 150 with a Conqueror Commander in tow! I support WP and the Stormers!
    Jeez other than Mike, is there anyone going who does NOT support the Bulls?
    One more added!! Hope I can make it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwily View Post
    I must say though that I would prefer a date in maybe Aug/Sept when it is NOT school holidays, would mean less traffic on the roads, but I will take whenever really
    Good to have you guys on board. The traffic will only be an issue in SA, and maybe in Livingstone. After that, you won't see another vehcile for hours on end.

    1. MikeAG Flying in from England...Camping
    2. Mad Manny + 1 Driving from Gauteng in a Fortuner
    3. RynoB + 1 Driving from Gauteng in a Puma
    4. Madota F250 + swambo Driving from Gauteng in a F250
    5. Renier + Swambo driving from Witbank in a Pajero
    6. Craig Rocher – Maybe
    7. Randy + Wife n' kids Driving from Gauteng in a Prado120
    8. Fanatic + Elzette Driving from Gauteng in a sample F250
    9. SarelF and Witklipbank Driving from Delmas
    10. Benphala and Susan (Swambo) in Prado 150 with a Conqueror Commander in tow
    11. Gwily x2 from Jo'burg. Camping

    I must say, this is an amazing response, particularly so far from the dates.

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