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    Default Mike Rowe (Dirty jobs) testifies before the U.S. Senate

    This morning I stumbled across a brilliant and thought provoking piece called Testimony of Mike Rowe

    Mike Rowe (Dirty jobs) testifies before the U.S. Senate about the critical shortage of skilled labour in the states (And worldwide)

    Right now, American manufacturing is struggling to fill 200,000 vacant positions.

    There are 450,000 openings in trades, transportation and utilities. The skills gap is real, and it's getting wider. In Alabama, a third of all skilled tradesmen are over 55. They're retiring fast, and no one is there to replace them.

    Alabama's not alone. A few months ago in Atlanta I ran into Tom Vilsack, our Secretary of Agriculture. Tom told me about a governor who was unable to move forward on the construction of a power plant. The reason was telling. It wasn't a lack of funds. It wasn't a lack of support. It was a lack of qualified welders.

    In general, we're surprised that high unemployment can exist at the same time as a skilled labor shortage. We shouldn't be. We've pretty much guaranteed it.
    My grandfather was a master boilermaker and I was lucky enough to inherit some fantastic tools from him when he passed away. (Most of them where subsequently stolen, but that’s another story)

    From I young age I've always helped my father do basic chores & repairs around the house like changing the brake pads of the car, welding a frame for a new gate and building a wall for the lapa.

    My knowledge of these things is barely adequate since there was a massive loss of knowledge from one generation to the next, but at least I know witch end of a screwdriver must point at the screw and that it’s not a great idea to weld barefoot.

    But for years now I’ve been astounded by how inept my contemporaries are with basic tool skills. I know people who still don’t know how to change a tyre. Hell, a colleague of mine loaded his new set of couches on a bakkie and dropped them off at my house since he didn’t know how to attach the legs!

    All the 1st world countries are running into this problem of acute skills shortages as a result of extremely liberal schooling systems that encourage learners to go for safe little desk jobs instead of learning a trade.

    Our school system locally is not only liberal it’s also riddled with inefficiencies and corruption. (The bulk of)school leavers nowadays have a massive sense of entitlement, no work ethic and can hardly string a coherent sentence together if you ask them to write a brief essay on why you should employ them at your company.

    But it’s not only the systems fault. Parents are not spending time with their kids to teach them even the most basic skills. As per the article the forces of supply and demand will make the services of a qualified, reliable plumber or electrician unaffordable to a lot of people.

    So next time you break something, try to fix it yourself, break it properly and pay attention when the professional fixes it for you.

    Your Thoughts?
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    well, it is the reality of the situation.

    Are things like woodwork and metalwork even taught at schools anymore?

    the problem is the perception that even kids have. people look down on 'manual laborers...'

    being a mechanic or a welder or a carpenter is no longer regarded as being a 'proper job...'

    and yes, there would be less of an unemployment problem if people had skills to make them employable - and thats all over the world...

    funnily enough, people are just not willing to take on a job either - they'd rather be unemployed than say, drive a truck for a few months to tick things over... weird...

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    I'm making a concerted effort to teach my two girls, 5 & 2, how to fix things. A dolls arm that came off, or a Series IIa fuel pump. Whatever needs fixing around the house. With the Landy, I'm sure they'll get plenty of practice.

    I think when they get married, THEY might be the 'handyman' in the house!!
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    I would actually be relatively happy if people could actually pick up a spanner and know which way to turn it...

    that would be a good start...

    from that point we can work onwards....

    I think ChrisF posted the other day that his 3rd year mechanical engineering students were not capable of changing a wheel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I would actually be relatively happy if people could actually pick up a spanner and know which way to turn it...
    Only problem I have is that my three year old boys reckon the ring end of a large spanner makes a good hammer to use on SWAMBO's platkar!!

    But I must agree with everything said so far her, at this point am strongly recommending all 3 of my boys find a "trade"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post

    I think ChrisF posted the other day that his 3rd year mechanical engineering students were not capable of changing a wheel
    well i have had computer techs with A+ & N+ who could not a tell me the out put voltages of a computer power supply nor how to measure it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DouglasN View Post
    well i have had computer techs with A+ & N+ who could not a tell me the out put voltages of a computer power supply nor how to measure it.
    Ask any of these "clever " ones to explain subnetting to you. You will be stunned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henris View Post
    Ask any of these "clever " ones to explain subnetting to you. You will be stunned.
    In my best Afrikaans: Liewe hel Henri!! How is it that you just had me learn something about computers!! Always used Subnet-Mask settings without knowing why! Thanks..

    And then there is that, without a curiosity to learn no one will learn any new skill.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henris View Post
    Ask any of these "clever " ones to explain subnetting to you. You will be stunned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henris View Post
    Ask any of these "clever " ones to explain subnetting to you. You will be stunned.

    Ja, like the one that configured a client's main server with a DHCP IP address?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henris View Post
    Ask any of these "clever " ones to explain subnetting to you. You will be stunned.

    Ag PLEEEEZ no, don't go there!!!!
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    Thats why I charge proper rates for my labour. We are too quick to pull a "welder " off the street with no qualifications cos your too bloody stingy. Wait, its changing.
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    While I agree wholeheartedly with all of the above... how many "manual labourer" type dads have said to their kids "I want something better for you my child" and then boasted that their little darlings are at Rhodes/Wits/Stellenbosch etc studying media studies/law/aroma therapy etc... it is the way of the world. Up until a few years ago I also wanted my son (aged 8) to go on to study some "worthy, lofty" path... in the last few years I too have become aware of the basic skills gap and would prefer him to do a trade.

    With the amount of poo in the world I think plumbing will always be needed, and VERY well paid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza1210 View Post
    While I agree wholeheartedly with all of the above... how many "manual labourer" type dads have said to their kids "I want something better for you my child" and then boasted that their little darlings are at Rhodes/Wits/Stellenbosch etc studying media studies/law/aroma therapy etc... it is the way of the world. Up until a few years ago I also wanted my son (aged 8) to go on to study some "worthy, lofty" path... in the last few years I too have become aware of the basic skills gap and would prefer him to do a trade.
    Quite right Gazza, I once rented a cottage on a farm whilst building a bridge over the Tugela. The farmer there had persuaded his son to go into banking obviously because the farmer had struggled for decades. Now the banks are looking a bit dodgy and the farmers are going to be driving Lamborghinis if the money printing continues.
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    Last week I interviewed a couple of technicians (qualified installers of electronic security equipment). During the interview with one of the chaps it came to light that he was the top student during a learnership, had worked 2 years for the employer and then resigned....he was unemployed for two years...I asked him if he didn't have any prospects during this time and he said that the salaries offered were too low and that he could not work for only R9 000 a month. He said it was tough, but he would rather holdout for a position that pays better...needless to say, he is still unemployed. My dad used to say: " hy kla met n witbrood onder die arm"!

    Shocking attitude. Sadly, I have found this from more than one individual. Poorly qualified trench diggers who proclaim to be technicians demanding huge salaries....We pay far above market related salaries, but demand highly skilled (and qualified) staff. Sadly, the highly skilled and qualified are far and few between!

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    I always hoped my 15yr old son would learn something when we are tinkering about at home

    It turned out he did, recently at school they were painting some walls as a special project turned out he was the only 1 out of 15 that knew how to paint the corners and cornishes of a room- in the end he was supervising even the teacher

    the best money spent was buying a 1979 Kawa KDx basket case
    took us 6 months to rebuild every minute I spent was a minute spent by son
    great bonding- now he gets p*ssed of with me if the spanners and sockets are not in the right sequence- well he told his 25 yr old nephew the other day that if there was one thing he learnt from the experience it is that if Dad say do not or do that he will listen because he learnt the hard way with bleeding knuckles and bruised ego

    Hey he even replaced the glowplugs on the Musso the other day
    installed an additional electric fan and an inverter... with my help of course

    and no I am no mechanic but was taught that common sense can't be taught or bought

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuurmaker View Post
    common sense can't be taught or bought

    This is so true, I am in a profession that does not require mechanical or any car related skills, but you dont need to go to university to get a degree in common sense.

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    Last week I interviewed a couple of technicians (qualified installers of electronic security equipment). During the interview with one of the chaps it came to light that he was the top student during a learnership, had worked 2 years for the employer and then resigned....he was unemployed for two years...I asked him if he didn't have any prospects during this time and he said that the salaries offered were too low and that he could not work for only R9 000 a month. He said it was tough, but he would rather holdout for a position that pays better...needless to say, he is still unemployed. My dad used to say: " hy kla met n witbrood onder die arm"!
    Shocking attitude. Sadly, I have found this from more than one individual. Poorly qualified trench diggers who proclaim to be technicians demanding huge salaries....We pay far above market related salaries, but demand highly skilled (and qualified) staff. Sadly, the highly skilled and qualified are far and few between!

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    I could not agree more with the statement that Apocalypse made about kids looking down on " manual labour".

    I feel a big problem is that when in school, you are constantly told that you will never make it in life unless you have some high-powered job. I have a professional qualification, as well as a trade or "manual" qualification, and if I had to choose all over when I left school, I would have started off with the trade qualification.

    People forget that the world was build by "manual labourers", and the world needs them to keep on turning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engel
    Thats why I charge proper rates for my labour. We are too quick to pull a "welder " off the street with no qualifications cos your too bloody stingy.
    This.

    If you’re too lazy or too much of a scrooge to either do a job yourself or appoint a proper artisan and rather go for the “painter/builder/electrician/glazier” lounging in front of your local Builders Warehouse then you deserve the patchy paint, cracked tiles and leaky roof that you got for a “bargain”.

    I admit that I ‘ve done in the past and I’ve always, ALWAYS regretted it.
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