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    Can one of your guys tell me what is the best shower system you use when you have no direct water connection (only water jerry can) and no electricity apart the one provided by the car battery ? I have been told that in S.A there are good alternatives.

    I am trying out a system like the bundu shower I just got from a friend but am not totally satisfied yet, may be I do not use it properly.

    the bests system I have for the moment is a 25 liter swiss army cooking stainless steel pot (I have also a smaller version 18 liter) which I heat with a gas cooker (9000 kilowat). see pictures.

    Once water is hot enough (38), I then put a 12 Volt waterpump in the pot but I am not very confident about longevity of the pump, the rest is OK , it takes 3 min for the water (+/- 15 liters) to have the desired temperature.

    Thanks and kind regards from Switzerland.
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    Hi Antonie, was in a 4x4 specialist store last week (4x4 mega world) and saw what I thought was a good idea, it was a portable gas water heater - google them and have a look.

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    You don't really need a shower. My wife and I share a simple plastic dish filled with water heated in our kettle. Starting at the top and washing down as far as possible, then starting from the ankles washing up as far as possible, then we wash "possible". Finally, we sit in a our chairs and wash our feet. All you need is privacy and an Addis dish and you have a method of keeping clean that uses very little water.
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    Galvanised steel bucket available from any Agri Store (Farm Supplies) which has many uses on the trip/camp. This can be put into a fire or on top of your gas burner. Use this with your 12v shower head. Simlpe and effective.

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    Hi Tunja
    many thanks for the info, I have found the web page but could not see the device so I wrote an e-mail to them !
    hi J-MS
    thanks for the tip, I do that some ties when (last time) the 12 v pump stops operating !! but otherwise , I definitely need a shower. After driving my old machine (1958) and almost sitting on the motor 90 hot, I am so sticky at the end of the day that I need plenty of hot water, thats not a problem here, the correct temperature is more !
    Hi Dave, thanks for info, actually my swiss army pot is fine, the small one (not on pcture is even better, only 15 liters, the other one 25 liters this one would be if SWAMB(D)O would come along, that she will never do, or with a friend coming along.
    anyway thanks to all for replies.
    the most clever would be to use heat from the engine cooling water to heat water ( for evening shower, in the morning that will not do. I am just a bit afraid that by plugging something on the cooling system I will eventually loose the motor if there is a leak.
    see http://www.4x4megaworld.co.za/Produc...i=358&CatID=29
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    Have a look at the outdoor warehouse website (www.outdoorwarehouse.co.za) and search for the "spinner" We had one and it work well for coocking and dishes and a shower

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    Thanks LRE for the info

    Interesting but on the expensive side, I saw something similar but self made
    kind regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoine Doinel View Post
    Thanks LRE for the info

    Interesting but on the expensive side, I saw something similar but self made
    kind regards
    That looks like an unofficial Stofpad product.....

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    don't know , saw that on google images

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoine Doinel View Post
    Thanks LRE for the info

    Interesting but on the expensive side, I saw something similar but self made
    kind regards
    Yip, it is mine. I works very good, but it is annoying in that you have to look after it all the time while using it. It keeps falling of the cooker and becomes hot as hell - most probably meaning that there is a lot of heat still available. With a litte development it will work very good though.
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    In the same range from Australia
    and an US Spaghetti overkill

    Photos 1 to 4 and 6 are one device , photo 5 with the copper coils something totally different
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    Geewiz, you'll need close to 10l of water just to prime this thing!!
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    Beware, pic 5 is a different system, I don't know if for cooling or heating a liquid

    for the Australian system, I just found the link again,

    http://www.campertrailers.org/diy_hot_shower.htm

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    The plastic bag with shower head that you put in the sun works OK, ... if you're into the "camel man" (pun intended) way of doing things
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoine Doinel View Post
    In the same range from Australia
    and an US Spaghetti overkill
    The pressure drop on that thing must be horrendous!
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    Uys, Kan jy miskien verduidelik hoekom 'n cloil mens druk laat verloor? Ek het dit al voorheen agtergekom en wonder elke keer as ek 'n coil sien wat die rede is?
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    About the plastic bag

    Yes for your guys who have plenty of sunshine that is definitely an option but for us poor Europeans with plenty of rain and clouds it ends usually with a cold cold shower.

    I have a swiss army water bag, probably the best in quality you can get, really solid and almost indestructible, but it is sold without guarantee for sunshine, after a full day in summer water reaches 50 but the next morning the shower is a bit cold !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoenraadB View Post
    Uys, Kan jy miskien verduidelik hoekom 'n cloil mens druk laat verloor? Ek het dit al voorheen agtergekom en wonder elke keer as ek 'n coil sien wat die rede is?
    Coenraad - it is not the coil, but the diameter of the pipe. Water next to the wall is stationary due to friction - the next "layer" flow slowly, the next faster and so forth. So the further the water gets away from the wall, the faster it flows. Also, an higher velocity means more friction in the pipe. See below.




    The other factor is laminar or turbulant flow. Initially flow will be laminar, but the higher the velocity, the more turbulent it will become untill it is fully developed turbulent flow. Laminar flow is a flow where the fluid particles make a stable and smooth trajectories. Laminar flows can be stable or unstable flows. On the contrary, a turbulent flow is a flow where the fluid particles make instable and non smooth trajectories. The turbulent flow has a chaotic behavior built-in caused by the inertial instability. There are thousands of books just on this topic.

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    Hi Uys

    I need some more details, I am no engineer, rather office guy, so even if I understand the principle I do not follow all the effects and I would hate to die idiot.

    So, if I want to build a system, is it better to take a larger section tube for example 10 mm rather than 8 mm or the contrary ? and how relevant is the lenght of the coil then ?

    PS : I did not fully understand conraadB's question, as I do not really follow afrikaans

    google translates it with : Uys, Could you perhaps explain why a cloil man is losing? I have already noticed and wonder every time I see a coil which is the reason?

    that sounds odd to me and far from what he meant !!

    from all the systems I saw, the australian is the closest to my swiss,

    the australian uses no coil, only two pans one in the other and in between the gas ring,

    I use a gas heater and a square pan, (not the most effective since in stainless steel but I can then close it and put it in the temperature preserving box if I want) and I protect the flame of the heater with some kind of pan shield

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    Maybe I am missing a point here. Why all the complicated devices which to me look like they belong on the space shuttle. I know it's "my" system but whats wrong with a galvanised 25L steel bucket (cost R120.00) and a 12v shower head (cost R225.00) The bucket has multi uses, can be put in a fire or on any type of gas stove. Costs are really low and as far a "handy" goes the system is top class, why go complicated when a simple, cheap and effective system is available.

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