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    Bietjie uit n ander oog.

    Dit is vir my ongelooflik hoe hierdie 4x4 gemeenskap voel (of voorgee) oor drink en 4x4.

    Soos julle weet het Henties/Swakop/Walvis van die beste duine om "man & machine" teen mekaar te toets.

    Verder weet julle almal ons vang nie meer vis op Henties nie, ons "hengel".
    Julle moet sien hoe mense, wat n hele dag lank ge-"hengel" het dan besluit om die duine uit te vaar, gesin in die motor, koelboks op die bak, hond aan die tralies vasgemaak en tyres 2bar

    Ek het al persoonlik na n man gestap om te help (na hy vir die 20ste keer nie die duin 10meter noord van ons staanplek, waar ons honde, kinders et al speel) nie kon uitkom nie. En ja, sy 4x4 lyk soos die wat Uys beskryf het.

    Ek is baie "vriendelik verplig" om hom uit te los want hy "weet wat hy doen" bier in die hand.

    En ja 90% van die drywers is GP (hier stir ek net so bietjie, dis meer soos 95%)

    Wat ek probeer se is daar is n tyd en n plek vir alles. Dit bly jou besluit. Neem net die mense rondom jou in ag.
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    Nys, jy moet so 'n vent sommer skuins agter sy bier uitklits.... nie oor die bier nie (tensy hy natuurlik geswael is!) maar watter idioot maak 'n hond aan die tralies vas? Dink hy dis 'n veiligheidsgordel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willied View Post
    Thys, nou is jy op jou eie..
    Hehehehehehe. Is dit omdat ek 'n dieseldonkie aanvat, Willie ? Ek en ou Apocalypse sal nooit rerig mekaar aanvat nie - ons is JEEP manne

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThysleRoux View Post
    Hehehehehehe. Is dit omdat ek 'n dieseldonkie aanvat, Willie ? Ek en ou Apocalypse sal nooit rerig mekaar aanvat nie - ons is JEEP manne
    Ek moet se ek is nogal impressed met die nuwe generasie Diesels.. het vanoggend die platkar teen 'n 3.0TDCi (Mazda) of iets gemeet, kon nie vir lank agter op hom sien nie.. maar die knaap het goed bygehou.. Was heel impressed, sal hom volgende keer op 'n baan aanvat sodat ek die platkar "roekeloos" (term thrown in loosely meaning throttle wide open) kan oopmaak..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
    Could it be that there might have been a second incident on the same day?
    Actually there was!!!

    Same Day, got the pictures this pm.

    Edit: I don't drink while 4x4'ing, even if it's just in a mud hole arround the corner from where I live. A couple of years ago I realized what drinking and driving involves when I took a bike through a red light cause I could not stop in time. That being said, I had a couple in me, I was not drunk, but it could have ended bad, really bad.
    Thus I stay away from endulging while driving and rather wait till I get home or at the camp site. I also try to not be in the same vicinity as those that do drink and drive.


    The last time I was at AD, guys were reversing up dunes, I still have the video's!!!
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    Now you guys are really going to go for it, don't blame the LR....
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    Ek sal werklik recovery punte op my rocksliders moet oorweeg voor ek sand toe gaan..


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoegENplak View Post
    Actually there was!!!
    Same Day, got the pictures this pm.
    kan iemand my asb vertel hoe de Mr daai ou sy Landie daar kan omgooi!

    Ek moet se, met als wat ek al die Namib gesien het, het ek darem nog nie n 4x4 op sy sy gesien nie.

    Seker omdat almal wat daar ry forum lede is
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    Die ouens ruk so hand uit by AD, dat dit werklik nie meer 'n plesier is om daar te ry nie. Ek is genoeg van 'n groentjie dat ek al my konsentrasie op my eie ryery moet vestig en het nie nog tyd om vir die cowboys ook uit te kyk nie.

    Verlede jaar tydens die 4WDCSA se AD Family Fun day het daar ouens met scramblers dwars oor een van die uitgemerkte obstacles gejaag, TERWYL daar 'n deelnemer in die roete was !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian1 View Post
    After carefully studying the pictures I have come to the following conclusions which I hereby declare as factual,
    1. All Isuzu drivers are reckless, inconsiderate drunkards
    2. All NC drivers are reckless, inconsiderate drunkards
    3. All drivers with any type of ARB product on their vehicle are reckless, inconsiderate drunkards
    4. I can't see the tyre manufacturers name but if someone can tell me from the tread pattern what tyres are used (educated guesses will be deemed good enough) then all drivers with these tyres are reckless, inconsiderate drunkards
    Based on the clothing of the bystanders all of the above can also be considered to be racist or at least racist sympathisers.
    By logical conclusion all of the above may (I know I am dangerous ground here) even have considered at some time doing a recovery using their towball.
    I apologise if I may inadvertently offended someone but facts are facts and sometimes they need to be put out there for the greater good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoegENplak View Post


    Now you guys are really going to go for it, don't blame the LR....

    Hoe de do.......


    Maybe he reversed to get parking in the shade?(Some digging in on the left hand side where the right front wheel was)
    Maybe he did some burnouts?(No visible tread marks)
    Maybe he made a U turn on what looks like a slope? (no visible tread marks)
    Maybe he handed the beer to the co pilot and said: Hou vas my bier en check die move!
    I like anything with 4 or more wheels...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oppers View Post
    Apoc, let me also just state that I also went with Gunhog, XJJ, GhostTraffic, Beast, et al. And I was really impressed with Gunhog's preparedness to be the "safety officer" (for want of a better word), appreciated it, and told him so. GREAT GUYS!!

    The "EGO-maniacs" I mentioned was not initially in our group, so whether they were part of the Forum I do not know. However, they joined in and became part of the crowd at the big dune. I had my and Nico(Ghost)'s boys playing on the dune right in front of my car where we we parked (off to one side to watch) and I was fearing for their safety - even far away from the action!
    I have been watching this thread with interest first of all want to say I hope noone was hurt. Guys we are not allowed not braai in the dunes so lets rather take a cadac along before someone decides to close this facility for everyone, there seems to be quite a interest from insurance, municipality in AD atm lets try not to give them reason for further action.

    We all enjoy a beer and I will be the first to admit that having a cold one while 4x4'ing is much better than a fruit juice but we have a image to uphold not just for us but for those that want to follow.

    Oppers now you understand why we go on Friday's, its usually just our group and maybe one or two others in the dunes and we can to the best of our abilities control the traffic.... over weekends its a different story.

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    my pespektief oor ongelukke gedurende 4x4ekskursies.

    1]as jy gesuip het en n kar omneuk......jy wil mos
    2]as jy niks gedrink het nie en omneuk
    2.1]newbie.......leer eers jou voertuig en gaan vir training
    2.2]experienced...........life happens, fix op en gaan 4x4 weer
    2.3]windgat...............jy wil mos, lees punt 2

    Dit lyk vir my na n klein oordeelsfout.
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    Herman I fully agree, theres always someone who knows better or adds that alcohol is involved. These people don't know the facts and thats why I stay away from commenting on these sites. At 10:30 on a cold frosty morning with VERY experienced drivers as mates with I was traveling with I decided to do something without checking first. It ended up with the first quote at R256000. All I can say IT WAS MY stupidity and nothing to do with anyone else. Thats why I did not post my accident because guess what "I was gesuip at that time of morning" We learn from our mistakes and pick ourselves up. Lesson VERY WELL LEARNT in my book. Must say however with the friends I have in 4x4ring they stood by my till the end. I feel sorry about what happened here but lets bury it and get on with our lives - till the next thread, damn
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    Oppers this thing is calming down too much ... let's pour some "eish" on the fire.


    I have only been to Atlantis twice. The first time with the Suzuki club, with Hein leading the group and showing us "how to". It was a large group, actually way too large. So you spent most of your time waiting for others to get past a particular obstacle. As it was the first time for most of us, it was SLOW going ...

    Eventually I started driving the dunes around the obstacle. First low dunes. Then slightly larger dunes. Even went up-over-and-down some dunes - big WOW for a fisrt timer. It was still easy and I tried the next hill ! MISTAKE. It was higher and steeper than what I thought. Nor did I have the right gear or enough momentum when taking it on .....

    You see where this is going.

    Just past half way up I realised this was NOT going to work. Gave it a quick look and bravery/stupidity/inexperience took over .... I turned lef to do an arch and then safely run down the hill. Clean hill, no tracks, no obstacles - with enough momentum it could even have worked. Except half way into this curve I ran out of mementum and the tires dug in .... SUDDENLY I realised just how steep the hill was. If we had stalled 10 or 20 meters later it would have been a roll over ! I JUST managed to straighten the car and come down a straight line.


    This was NOT due to alchol or ego, just plain inexperience.

    Things can go wrong FAST. And I doubt if the ordinary person realises this when they enter the dunes for the first time.


    Our second outing at Atlantis was also led by an experienced tour guide. This was a pure training session for people that was going to Namibia with him. It started of easy, and gradually increased in difficulty as the day carried on. CONSTANT radio comms, regular instructions to learn from previous obstacles and to instruct for the next.

    During our lunch stop a dad and son wanted to do a short ride. From their lunch stop spot, they pulled forward 5m. Then realised they needed momentum. As he backed up he misjudged the slope to the one side..... Took two ropes and a real team effort to prevent a roll over. Again just not reading the terrain combined with (or as a result of) inexperience.



    These did not even include "dop" or ego. Then you still add a few youngsters trying to show off to their buddies. When doing the dunes DO keep an eye out for groups of cowboys ....
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    I can't put it better ChrisF well said
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    OK so mystery solved Cape Townian's can not drive.......................................
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    True we stick to mole heaps but hey check the threads mate you might be unpleasantly surprised, similar to the ref at Orlando
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    Hi,

    You guys are scarring me. I have kinda committed myself to joining Zantus and others at Brakkeduine on 21 June.

    In KZN/Transkei/Lesotho I know about rocks, inclines and mud and level sand.

    But this dune thing, seems even if you are sober and carefull you will roll.

    I want the experience but I am not ready to hurt my loved ones or car.

    Are we talking extreme or normal fun stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Hi,
    You guys are scarring me. I have kinda committed myself to joining Zantus and others at Brakkeduine on 21 June.
    In KZN/Transkei/Lesotho I know about rocks, inclines and mud and level sand.
    But this dune thing, seems even if you are sober and carefull you will roll.
    I want the experience but I am not ready to hurt my loved ones or car.
    Are we talking extreme or normal fun stuff.
    Cheers
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    Keith, not so......if you go with people that have experience they will show you how. But no one is forcing you, you can bypass in most cases. If you go with Barto you will be in good hands.
    Maybe you got the wrong impression about the rollovers, this isnt the norm, hundreds do the dunes every year without an incident, its only a handfull of people we are talking about. They rollover for various reasons, alchohol , inexperience , mechanical failure and tyre off rims etc
    So we mustnt jump to conclusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobrin View Post
    OK so mystery solved Cape Townian's can not drive.......................................
    Now I could remind you that it was probably not a CapeTonian driving the NORTHERN CAPE Suzie .... maar daai 12 jarige sal my "aanspreek" ....

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