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    Quote Originally Posted by Raceway View Post
    So this one messed with my catalogue - Chaplin's barbet Zambia - going to have to start a new list !! Falls out of the Southern Africa range
    I think it is a Black-backed barbet, I saw them at Kapishya last year

    See here:
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaplin's_barbet
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzukiPiet View Post
    I stick to my first reaction on this. GISS, vertical streaking on the chest, horizontal barring on the belly, heavy under the tail, slight supercilium all says Gabar Goshawk to me.

    https://www.arkive.org/gabar-goshawk...ge-G37434.html

    Head does not have that awkward "beaky" appearance of the European Honey Buzzard, nor does the undertail barring or wing-to-tail-length relationship look correct...
    I concede.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wschulte View Post
    Yes, looks definitely like green sandpiper. The dark on the chest is only at the sides, while the centre is light again, unlike that in the common sandpiper.
    The giss is not right for a green, there is not enough speckling on the breast and the markings on the back and head are not right for a green sandpiper. Something that the photographer could have seen and should have mentioned is whether the bird was bobbing as he was feeding - that is usually the giveaway for common sandpipers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam16 View Post
    The giss is not right for a green, there is not enough speckling on the breast and the markings on the back and head are not right for a green sandpiper. Something that the photographer could have seen and should have mentioned is whether the bird was bobbing as he was feeding - that is usually the giveaway for common sandpipers.
    Yes the movement gives a common sandpiper away. Though I am still a bit in doubt I tend to go with common instead of green afterwards, mainly because studying the pic in closer detail I think the white rump and barred tail of a green sandpiper should have been visible, most certainly in the 2nd set of pics. The whitish center of the breast and the not soo short legs misled me I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daafvader View Post
    I think it is a Black-backed barbet, I saw them at Kapishya last year

    See here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-backed_barbet
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaplin's_barbet
    Thanks for this Daafvader - Id-ed this one in 2010 and never checked again - hopefully my skills have improved since. That was the last time I was in Zambia - when the world cup was here in June/July we left for a month. But it was great as every border we went thro / park / campsite - everyone was keeping us up to date on the score. But going there now for a month in Oct/Nov so will pay more attention to birds this time. Doing the bats and shoebills.

    To everyone else thanks for all the input on the sandpipers - and SuzukiPiet for that link - its quite handy - I always use Warwick Tarboton's website as a comparison.

    Can you believe it - I have to work full day again - my Manager has gone on early Maternity leave. But the good news is I fly my sister up from Durban early Oct to run my business - got photographs to take

    Suzuki Piet - can confirm my number today for number of birds photographed is 396. I took pictures of birds just to ID them, it was never my intention to catalogue them, but once I started I couldn't stop - had to catch Piet's number. I still have some waders/larks to ID and still need to find pics of birds that I know I have taken pic's of but can't find - Hartlaubs babbler for one. Still refuse to take pic's of crows and mynah's !! but I might get desperate to reach 400 !!

    So bird 396 - White tailed Shrike - Namibia - somewhere near Epupa Falls
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    oops cut off his tail so can't see white tip - juv drakensburg rock jumper - Sani pass. Red eyes seem diagnostic
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    He doesn't seem to have the yellow back - Yellow crowned bishop, but the yellow bishop is black headed. Dullstroom. My iso on 1600 - no idea why so pic very grainy
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    African cuckoo hawk - Groenkloof pretoria - Distribution ?? November or African Goshawk
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    Next hurdle - Terns

    1) Damara tern - Namibian coast (appear to have grey body)
    2) Damara -
    3) Common Tern - Namibian coast
    4) Whiskered Tern - Marievale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raceway View Post
    African cuckoo hawk - Groenkloof pretoria - Distribution ?? November or African Goshawk
    Remember the "awkward beaky appearance" I referred to a couple of posts ago? Here we go! European Honey Buzzard! A very enviable find!

    Also note the diagnostic tail pattern: broad, dark subterminal bar and thinner middle bar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raceway View Post
    Next hurdle - Terns

    1) Damara tern - Namibian coast (appear to have grey body)
    2) Damara -
    3) Common Tern - Namibian coast
    4) Whiskered Tern - Marievale
    Agree on 3) and 4), but the Damara tern has a grey rump. If I had to venture a guess I would say Sandwich Tern, but the picture angles make identification difficult...

    That first pic has a lovely composition! Just not great for ID purposes - the eye doesn't know where to concentrate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzukiPiet View Post
    Agree on 3) and 4), but the Damara tern has a grey rump. If I had to venture a guess I would say Sandwich Tern, but the picture angles make identification difficult...

    That first pic has a lovely composition! Just not great for ID purposes - the eye doesn't know where to concentrate!
    I will ask my mate if he got some better shots for ID - i can make out white rump and it looks like red legs, can't see beak

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    I will leave this one to you guys - All I have is Harrier juv - Kgalagadi - January. I think distribution will determine this one ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raceway View Post
    I will leave this one to you guys - All I have is Harrier juv - Kgalagadi - January. I think distribution will determine this one ?
    The white facial markings with brown crescent underneath makes this juvenile or female of either Pallid or Montagu's Harrier. Distribution is fine for both Pallid and Montagu's. Juveniles are said to be more rufous, so I lean towards female.

    The white markings around the eye look more pronounced, so I would say Female Montagu's Harrier.


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    Thanks I was worried about distribution on the Montagu's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raceway View Post
    Thanks I was worried about distribution on the Montagu's
    The Sasol app has the distributions as attached. Montagu's at the top, Pallid at the bottom.
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    Ha Ha - Scary stuff - look at what I have with Roberts
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