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    Thanks Bertie,

    When I view the file in Windows (7)I can see all the detail?? Simon also complained but I dont know how else to supply the file??

    Anyway, ISO800, 1/500, f8

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    Nice collection of bird photos Swainsons. - You must be close to making your own bird book.

    Thanks for everyone for posting pics. I am now motivated to post a few of my own here.
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    First one was ISO 1250 1/100 f5.6 280mm
    Second one was ISO 500 1/25 f6.3 200mm (Found something to rest on)
    Both with 50D
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    Bugs, your second photo is a bit over exposed and you need to get that ss up a bit.
    What metering did you use?

    Your 1st shot is much better (for me) than 2nd with more detail on the wing feathering but the head is a bit soft. Yes and the black is making this subject very difficult to photograph! I think you have done well on the 1st shot!
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    Thanks for the crit Mfuwefarmer.

    Without making excuses, and for the benefit of others, I had a problem with the sharpness in the eyes.

    There is a substantial difference between the photo as it appears on the forum and what it looks like viewing through iPhoto. It seems that a lot of the color is lost as well. I do the editing on the home PC using Aperture, and need to check what I have adjusted from the original.

    On the day, there wasn't that much light around, and I was even battling to get focus on the black subject.

    We should talk a little about metering. What default metering do you use and/or recommend for bird shots?
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    Well done Bugs,

    Personally I like spot metering for stationary birds. When in flight I prefer 3dMatrix.

    I have also learnt on ODP forum that you should overexpose WITHOUT blowing any of your channels. In plain language, you should look at your histogram continuously and make sure it is as far to the right as possible. That way you capture so much more detail.

    Something I learnt last night, is that you can save a 10Meg RAW file as a almost 70Meg TIFF. Thats huge, and print quality is superb.

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    I think generally matrix s/be your default. In bugs 2nd photo the spot metering on the black "confused" the exposure on the reds causing over excposure.
    Think spot can work well on birds with colours of simalilar tones ie all blacks or all whites.

    Swainsons, btw your best shot to date in my opinion is your duck and that was with matrix metering! The yellow and the dark feathering as well as the light under wings came out very nice. If you used spot I think you would have washed the yellow bill and wings. What was your exposure bias on the duck.....+1 or -1?
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    Hey Bertie,

    I posted a duck in flight a while ago, and I think you are refering to that one?? The exp Bias was -0.33 on that one, Also, it was shot with a consumer 70-300 VR lens (Shows you how good it is)

    The pic I posted Sunday, was +0.7, and shot with 300mmf4 and 1.4TC.

    Both where shot in matrix mode.

    Hope that helps.

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    so een of twee
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    Quote Originally Posted by swainsons View Post
    Hey Bertie,

    I posted a duck in flight a while ago, and I think you are refering to that one?? The exp Bias was -0.33 on that one, Also, it was shot with a consumer 70-300 VR lens (Shows you how good it is)
    The pic I posted Sunday, was +0.7, and shot with 300mmf4 and 1.4TC.

    Both where shot in matrix mode.
    Actually forgot about that one and both are excellent shots. You need to change your name to "Yellowbilled Swainsons"

    Reading through the posts on this thread I see we have discussed matrix vs spot. I still think matrix should be default setting with +/- exposure compensation and spot used only in very specific circumstances.
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    A few pics from this last weekend in the Schoemanskloof valley. Interesting birding...

    Simon, and other please help with "no idea"

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    Default Shoebills at Shoebill Island Zambia

    I could not wait to upload this, the 1st of the shoebill photos of our visit to Shoebill Island in Zambia.
    No, it did not need a runway to get airbone...just a swift bend downwards and liftoff. Some guys get bokkoors, we had had shoebillkoors.
    Let me be fair to Jnr, he got this shot and not me!

    I wonder if it was not shoebillkoors that killed Livingstone in stead of the dreaded malaria.
    More to come at a later stage.
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    Mfume, this calls for a WOW (in capitals)!!!!! Lucky you.
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    Bertie.

    Lost for words.....

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    Default Shoebill Island

    Not only is Shoebill Island home to 200-800 Shoebills, it also has a very healthy population in excess of a 1000 Wattled Cranes, and we saw 20 of them without really searching.

    Also very special is the Blue Breasted Bee-eater and the Swamp Flycatcher.

    This must be one of the richest birding areas in Africa. May is without a doubt the best time to visit and I will be going again next year...anyone joining?
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    Fantastic photos, Bertie! Just fantastic. Looks like your hassles getting there were worthwhile.

    You've made my evening.

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    Thanks Spook, Leon & Mike!
    From a pure technical photographic point of view I am a bit disappointed with my photos.
    We had good subjects but bad excecution and doing something wrong as I am not getting nice bokeh!

    Will have to go back there to get genuine good shots

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    Bertie,

    Awesome photos. Looks definitely like a trip for the bucket list. How was the shooting conditions? I assume you got around in a boat / dugout. What sort of lenses would be you recommend for such a trip.

    I am green with jealousy. Depending on the new business I will definitely be up for a trip next year.

    Natio

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    Swainsons,
    I refered your "no idea" bird to my brother-in-law for his opinion. He is one of the top birders in SA (Cliff Dorse). Hopefully he'll solve the mystery.

    Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natio View Post
    Looks definitely like a trip for the bucket list. How was the shooting conditions? I assume you got around in a boat / dugout. What sort of lenses would be you recommend for such a trip.
    Natio
    Thanks Natio!
    Yes shooting from a banana boat with two boatmen using sticks and it was extremely difficult. The guys aren't trained for bird photographing. Their main objective is to cover as much "ground" and show you as much as can be seen, thus you are shooting on the move. I did loose it with them on more that one occasion. The other drawback is that all the birds move away from you ie, most are rear-ended shots.

    They dont have any hides on strategic places which is a major shortcoming and I had a feeling that this might be the case, thats why I started looking at portable hides. Como clothing of the type the paintball guys are using will also be valuable..

    I used a 200-400mm and Jnr used the 70-200 with extender. Wished for 600mm.

    I am glad I went and will be back there in May next year, but I now know what to expect and will have diff strategy.

    For pure birding this place is unbeatable.

    We also saw black lechwe not by the 1000's but by the 10 thousands! They dont have any predators appart from the poachers and the lechwe herds recovered quiet nicely after the uncontrolled poaching.

    I am serious about going back there...I will be daft not to go back!
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