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    That just looks so wrong

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    In the sticks.
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    Went playing with my fellow forumites at Hennops 4x4 trail today.

    Had some good fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooly View Post


    Went playing with my fellow forumites at Hennops 4x4 trail today.

    Had some good fun!
    That Jeep surprised me big time..
    The design of the clearance angles are very clever, and that tc system is top notch and super effective
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    That Jeep surprised me big time..
    The design of the clearance angles are very clever, and that tc system is top notch and super effective
    I think my Jeep was one of the least offroad looking vehicles there today and also one of the few stock standard including H/T tyres. I kept up with the big boys without breaking a sweat.

    Jeep really builds a formidable traction control system! I am very chuffed with my Jeep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooly View Post
    I think my Jeep was one of the least offroad looking vehicles there today and also one of the few stock standard including H/T tyres. I kept up with the big boys without breaking a sweat.

    Jeep really builds a formidable traction control system! I am very chuffed with my Jeep.
    How did it do? What obstacles did it do and which ones did you bypass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepfamily View Post
    How did it do? What obstacles did it do and which ones did you bypass?
    It did fantastic I did everything the big offroaders did, the only one I bypassed was the donga not because the Jeep would not been able to, only because I was afraid to make a mistake, slip and damage a new R800K vehicle. The biggest test to me was the cross axles on the incline, I went up without any problems and without even engaging the diff lock I only used low range and the traction control. In fact I did not use diff lock at any time during the day.

    On most of the track I used the crawl control, this makes it so easy anyone would be able to do it, If I had to lift this and fit proper A/T tyres this thing would go anywhere.

    I think this Jeep really shows how far offroad technology has come in terms of traction control systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooly View Post
    It did fantastic I did everything the big offroaders did, the only one I bypassed was the donga not because the Jeep would not been able to, only because I was afraid to make a mistake, slip and damage a new R800K vehicle. The biggest test to me was the cross axles on the incline, I went up without any problems and without even engaging the diff lock I only used low range and the traction control. In fact I did not use diff lock at any time during the day.

    On most of the track I used the crawl control, this makes it so easy anyone would be able to do it, If I had to lift this and fit proper A/T tyres this thing would go anywhere.

    I think this Jeep really shows how far offroad technology has come in terms of traction control systems.
    It’s a pity there were no WK’s or XK’s there.

    Still think the QD2 system is the bees knees.

    No knoppies or dials or settings...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak View Post
    It’s a pity there were no WK’s or XK’s there.

    Still think the QD2 system is the bees knees.

    No knoppies or dials or settings...
    I'm sure they would have performed well, but the whole point of this exercise was to see how T/C would do against traditional low range with diff lock. It was not meant to see who's vehicle was the best or which driver had the most technical skill.

    And I think to me anyway the answer is clear, that modern systems are as capable, I would not say it is better than traditional mechanical systems but when they are combined it makes for a very capable package that will perform in almost all situations. The biggest concern would be reliability, but in recent years I believe most mainstream manufacturers have nailed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak View Post
    It’s a pity there were no WK’s or XK’s there.

    Still think the QD2 system is the bees knees.

    No knoppies or dials or settings...
    Rainier I come from the old school 4x4 (Land Rover's series III , Disco 1 and Defender 300 Tdi with no lockers) and the WH (WK, XK ) Grand Cherokee 3.0l CRD since I have got it has got through everything I have thrown at it, with me doing all that a 4x4er should not do (e.g leaveing tyre pressures @ 40psi )

    Standard one has to be carefull about knocking the plastic, now that I have fitted OME HD suspension and gone with bigger tyres is goes anywhere. Have not tried it in 800mm plus water depth yet but comfortably copes with 500mm water depth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witblitz View Post
    Rainier I come from the old school 4x4 (Land Rover's series III , Disco 1 and Defender 300 Tdi with no lockers) and the WH (WK, XK ) Grand Cherokee 3.0l CRD since I have got it has got through everything I have thrown at it, with me doing all that a 4x4er should not do (e.g leaveing tyre pressures @ 40psi )

    Standard one has to be carefull about knocking the plastic, now that I have fitted OME HD suspension and gone with bigger tyres is goes anywhere. Have not tried it in 800mm plus water depth yet but comfortably copes with 500mm water depth
    Yip. It is awesome off-road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooly View Post
    It did fantastic I did everything the big offroaders did, the only one I bypassed was the donga not because the Jeep would not been able to, only because I was afraid to make a mistake, slip and damage a new R800K vehicle. The biggest test to me was the cross axles on the incline, I went up without any problems and without even engaging the diff lock I only used low range and the traction control. In fact I did not use diff lock at any time during the day.

    On most of the track I used the crawl control, this makes it so easy anyone would be able to do it, If I had to lift this and fit proper A/T tyres this thing would go anywhere.

    I think this Jeep really shows how far offroad technology has come in terms of traction control systems.
    Is that a Cherokee? I didn't know they came with diff lock and low range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizardalpha View Post
    Is that a Cherokee? I didn't know they came with diff lock and low range.
    Only the Trailhawk version does. It's basically the same system as in the Grand Cherokee Trailhwak except the Grand has a limited slip diff at the rear, where the Cherokee trailhawk has a manual locking rear diff.

    I believe the only system more capable in the Jeep range of vehicles is the system found in the Wrangler Rubicon.
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    Got half a lift today...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooly View Post
    Only the Trailhawk version does. It's basically the same system as in the Grand Cherokee Trailhwak except the Grand has a limited slip diff at the rear, where the Cherokee trailhawk has a manual locking rear diff.

    I believe the only system more capable in the Jeep range of vehicles is the system found in the Wrangler Rubicon.
    Nope, QD2.

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    I posted on this thread many moons back (post 4286) when this Jeep was still red with some cancer marks on. This is how it is now. Almost done.Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak View Post
    Nope, QD2.

    Grand Cherokee Quadra Drive 2 =

    Full time 4wd in normal mode

    Traction control
    Selectable low range power 50/50 front and rear.
    *Limited slip diff
    Selectable terrain response modes
    Selec Speed

    Cherokee Trailhawk Active drive lock =

    Front biased AWD in normal mode

    Traction control
    Selectable low range power 50/50 front and rear.
    *Selectable Diff-lock
    Selectable terrain response modes
    Selec Speed

    So in normal mode they are different BUT
    when in low range they work the same as far as the traction control is concerned, the only difference is that Grand Cherokee has a LSD, the Cherokee Trailhawk has an actual Diff-lock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bassfisher View Post
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    I posted on this thread many moons back (post 4286) when this Jeep was still red with some cancer marks on. This is how it is now. Almost done.Click image for larger version. 

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    I can't wait to get a spin in that grand old guy.
    It looks really neat.

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    Default Re: Post a photo of your Jeep here please

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooly View Post
    Grand Cherokee Quadra Drive 2 =

    Full time 4wd in normal mode

    Traction control
    Selectable low range power 50/50 front and rear.
    *Limited slip diff
    Selectable terrain response modes
    Selec Speed

    Cherokee Trailhawk Active drive lock =

    Front biased AWD in normal mode

    Traction control
    Selectable low range power 50/50 front and rear.
    *Selectable Diff-lock
    Selectable terrain response modes
    Selec Speed

    So in normal mode they are different BUT
    when in low range they work the same as far as the traction control is concerned, the only difference is that Grand Cherokee has a LSD, the Cherokee Trailhawk has an actual Diff-lock.
    Front diff lock?
    ASPW on the Jeep Grand Cherokee: "This vehicle is phenomenal... I have never seen a traction control system working quite like this..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak View Post
    Front diff lock?
    Only the Wrangler Rubicon has front diff lock as far a I know, the Quadra drive 2 has an open front diff with traction control.
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