Chicken Flattie Cooked in it packaging

[GertMan]

Plastics, and the leached chemicals from these, are hormone disruptors that mimic oestrogen in the body.
Besides for the cancer risk, these are linked to sexual dysfunction, decreased sperm count and function, developmental problems, immune function disruption, neurological problems (including dementia), metabolic disorders like obesity and diabetes, etc.

Yes, braaing in the bag works, but no thank you.

O 4 5 6, a flattie once every month or so (boiled in bag for 30 or so minutes, then braai for a crisp) will lift your spirit, NOT your obesity disorder...

You know there is life outside the "paid for research" 'studies'??

[PsyPhin]

Just use glass

[Brian1]

at least they wont be able to beam thoughts into the chicken

Lol, dual purpose, hat ... chicken ... hat ...

[Emmie L]

Lol, dual purpose, hat ... chicken ... hat ...

Chicken flavour hat

[Blikka]

at least they wont be able to beam thoughts into the chicken

At least your chicken will be 5G free guaranteed!

I tell you all what, this thread has convinced me not to cook in the bag anymore. I will decant said chicken and marinade into a suitable glass bowl, cover in foil, roast till basically done in my weber gas braai with the lid closed , then add some char on the coals.

Very insightful thread

[Emmie L]

O 4 5 6, a flattie once every month or so (boiled in bag for 30 or so minutes, then braai for a crisp) will lift your spirit, NOT your obesity disorder...

You know there is life outside the "paid for research" 'studies'??

Where's the flaw in his logic chain? Inorganic material in the body collect in the soft tissues. The same soft tissues that regulate your hormones. Which will inevitably lead to neurological, auto immune system and weight issues. Which once you have fallen over that cliff you can't climb back again. Depositing a goodly amount of toxic material once a month for 20 years without consequences seems like the worst form of unrealistic expectation I can imagine.

It's very very simple science. Organic likes organic and inorganic likes inorganic. All the clever human reasoning will never ever overrule this. Humans are organic. And introducing excess inorganic material or inorganic material that should never have been present WILL interfere with the processes in the body. You don't even need to go into more detail than that. You just need a shred of common sense.

[Gungets Tuft]

Where's the flaw in his logic chain? Inorganic material in the body collect in the soft tissues. The same soft tissues that regulate your hormones. Which will inevitably lead to neurological, auto immune system and weight issues. Which once you have fallen over that cliff you can't climb back again. Depositing a goodly amount of toxic material once a month for 20 years without consequences seems like the worst form of unrealistic expectation I can imagine.

It's very very simple science. Organic likes organic and inorganic likes inorganic. All the clever human reasoning will never ever overrule this. Humans are organic. And introducing excess inorganic material or inorganic material that should never have been present WILL interfere with the processes in the body. You don't even need to go into more detail than that. You just need a shred of common sense.

Ag wat Emmie. Darwin will prevail, we'll all be better off. Science se moer, yes?

[jab2]

Where's the flaw in his logic chain? Inorganic material in the body collect in the soft tissues. The same soft tissues that regulate your hormones. Which will inevitably lead to neurological, auto immune system and weight issues. Which once you have fallen over that cliff you can't climb back again. Depositing a goodly amount of toxic material once a month for 20 years without consequences seems like the worst form of unrealistic expectation I can imagine.

It's very very simple science. Organic likes organic and inorganic likes inorganic. All the clever human reasoning will never ever overrule this. Humans are organic. And introducing excess inorganic material or inorganic material that should never have been present WILL interfere with the processes in the body. You don't even need to go into more detail than that. You just need a shred of common sense.

Not to be pedantic, but as a chemical technologist, I'm pretty sure you misunderstand what organic and in-organic is.
“Organic” doesn’t mean natural or pesticide-free. It simply means a substance is made mostly of carbon atoms bonded with hydrogen, like the fats, proteins, sugars, and DNA in your body. These are called organic compounds because your body (and all living organisms) is built from them. Organic compounds are, however, not limited to substances from living organisms; BPA is also an organic compound, but man-made. As said, it mimics certain hormones because the molecular structure is so similar your body does not even know the difference. But your body also needs inorganic substances, which don’t contain carbon-hydrogen bonds — like water, oxygen, salt, and minerals such as calcium and iron. These are just as natural and essential, even though they’re called “inorganic.” So in chemistry, organic and inorganic describe the type of atoms and bonds in a substance, not whether it’s natural or artificial.

[GertMan]

Where's the flaw in his logic chain? Inorganic material in the body collect in the soft tissues. The same soft tissues that regulate your hormones. Which will inevitably lead to neurological, auto immune system and weight issues. Which once you have fallen over that cliff you can't climb back again. Depositing a goodly amount of toxic material once a month for 20 years without consequences seems like the worst form of unrealistic expectation I can imagine.

It's very very simple science. Organic likes organic and inorganic likes inorganic. All the clever human reasoning will never ever overrule this. Humans are organic. And introducing excess inorganic material or inorganic material that should never have been present WILL interfere with the processes in the body. You don't even need to go into more detail than that. You just need a shred of common sense.

Emmie, I doubt that the food grade BPA free plastic used "deposit a goodly amount of toxic material" into the flattie when cooked in a pot. The French has used this cooking method for decades, sous vide. (perhaps that is why they are a bit off.. )

[Juddvdb]

I think my dad deserves a trophy

He taught me how to braai a chicken flattie well enough that it's juicy, and well flavoured without any thought of such processes discussed in this thread.

I'll have to take him some beer and a thank you.

[Spiceman]

The whole world is bitching and moaning about smoking but now it seems that plastic cooked chicken is much more dangerous.

[BruceHun]

If you don't know how to braai chicken without a bag or glass or similar then you cannot braai!😉

[jab2]

If you don't know how to braai chicken without a bag or glass or similar then you cannot braai!😉

At the risk of being drawn and quartered, I have to agree. My parabat chicken is not dry when braaied.

[Emmie L]

Not to be pedantic, but as a chemical technologist, I'm pretty sure you misunderstand what organic and organic is.
“Organic” doesn’t mean natural or pesticide-free. It simply means a substance is made mostly of carbon atoms bonded with hydrogen, like the fats, proteins, sugars, and DNA in your body. These are called organic compounds because your body (and all living organisms) is built from them. Organic compounds are, however, not limited to substances from living organisms; BPA is also an organic compound, but man-made. As said, it mimics certain hormones because the molecular structure is so similar your body does not even know the difference. But your body also needs inorganic substances, which don’t contain carbon-hydrogen bonds — like water, oxygen, salt, and minerals such as calcium and iron. These are just as natural and essential, even though they’re called “inorganic.” So in chemistry, organic and inorganic describe the type of atoms and bonds in a substance, not whether it’s natural or artificial.

I don't even know how to respond to this. Why on earth would you assume I mean organic as in the marketing label put on food when I'm talking about a chemistry principle. You should be the one that's most familiar with the principle in its real meaning, so why assume something I didn't even say? I'm gobsmacked.

[Estee]

Plastics, and the leached chemicals from these, are hormone disruptors that mimic oestrogen in the body.
Besides for the cancer risk, these are linked to sexual dysfunction, decreased sperm count and function, developmental problems, immune function disruption, neurological problems (including dementia), metabolic disorders like obesity and diabetes, etc.

Yes, braaing in the bag works, but no thank you.

This. If you boys are sporting beer bellies and bitchtits, using blue tablets and dont have the urge to take your wimins rudely from behind everytime they bend over (or any wimins for that matter), its not the beer, its oestrogen in plastics. And buying, storing, wrapping and now cooking in plastic........

[Gungets Tuft]

The whole world is bitching and moaning about smoking but now it seems that plastic cooked chicken is much more dangerous.

There are many ways to make your life unpleasant, or end it very unpleasantly. These are just two.

[Spiceman]

There are many ways to make your life unpleasant, or end it very unpleasantly. These are just two.

Yes, I believe so. I'm sure you noticed my humour. I wanted to say at some point: "we must die of something, might as well be plastic" but decided against it then.

[Gungets Tuft]

Yes, I believe so. I'm sure you noticed my humour. I wanted to say at some point: "we must die of something, might as well be plastic" but decided against it then.

I can think of many other ways to pop my clogs than these two, I'd prefer to be having a jol right up to the last second. Eating moist (sic) parabat chicken is pretty low on the list.

[HAVAGO]

We were having a discussion at work about a Chicken Flattie on the braai. It was mentioned that you cook it on a cold grid in its plastic bag with hot coals and certainly not coals that have a flame still showing.

Has anyone tried this? Surely the bag melts!!

Good day have been doing this and with ribs for many years.
provided the coals aren't too hot the plastic does not melt.
just a heads up the bag inflates as the juice inside starts boiling, don't stress its normal, best was to cook the chicken and ribs, then take them out for a tan after about 45 min MODERATE HEAT IS THE ANSWER

[Groen 4x4]

We were having a discussion at work about a Chicken Flattie on the braai. It was mentioned that you cook it on a cold grid in its plastic bag with hot coals and certainly not coals that have a flame still showing.

Has anyone tried this? Surely the bag melts!!

Yes you can do it. Just start with the in-bag chick about 30cm above coals. Even a bit more if coals still very hot. Lover the grid as the coals cool down. Tender and tasty all the way