Everest won't start

[Andita]

I have a 2013 3L Ford Everest. I had some basic work done on it. In the morning it starts without a problem.

If I drive somewhere and park for 30 minutes to an hour, it will not start. It cranks no problem but won't fire.

After standing for a few hours it starts again.

We have fitted a non-return to the fuel line.
We have changed the crank sensor.

There is diesel to the injectors but they obviously are not triggering.
Immobilizer is working. We have considered the fuel rail or fuel rail pressure sensor but not changed them yet.
Why only when the car is hot?

Any advice?

[mullerza]

Friend had a similar issue on his Everest, in his case it was a dodgy cam sensor that would sometimes act up when hot leading to the car not starting. Usually it would sort itself when the car stood for a while.

[Therackermann]

A cam sensor will bring up an error code.

What error codes are you getting?

Had I been in your situation, I’d check for air leaking into the system via perhaps a bad seal or clamp or crack in plastic or similar. Logically to me, when the vehicle is cold, one would turn the key to the on position and wait for the glow plug light to go off. In this process the fuel pump in pumps fuel from the tank to the motor and this Ford has a self priming system. That’s why the vehicle starts when cold.

When the vehicle is hot and you turn the key to the on position the glow plug light goes off faster thereby because the engine is hotter thereby not priming the fuel system for the same amount of time compared to when the vehicle is cold.

I think you have air leaking into the fuel system somewhere. Start by checking the seal at the diesel filter housing as that’s the most likely place

[Spiceman]

A cam sensor will bring up an error code.

What error codes are you getting?

Had I been in your situation, I’d check for air leaking into the system via perhaps a bad seal or clamp or crack in plastic or similar. Logically to me, when the vehicle is cold, one would turn the key to the on position and wait for the glow plug light to go off. In this process the fuel pump in pumps fuel from the tank to the motor and this Ford has a self priming system. That’s why the vehicle starts when cold.

When the vehicle is hot and you turn the key to the on position the glow plug light goes off faster thereby because the engine is hotter thereby not priming the fuel system for the same amount of time compared to when the vehicle is cold.

I think you have air leaking into the fuel system somewhere. Start by checking the seal at the diesel filter housing as that’s the most likely place

Isn't it possible for fuel to leak out at the fuel filter housing if it can suck air there?

[Therackermann]

Isn't it possible for fuel to leak out at the fuel filter housing if it can suck air there?

Possible.

As I said that’s what I would check if it was me in the situation. A simple pressure test will reveal.

[Andita]

Friend had a similar issue on his Everest, in his case it was a dodgy cam sensor that would sometimes act up when hot leading to the car not starting. Usually it would sort itself when the car stood for a while.

I will certainly look into the cam sensor. Thanks for the advice. I will update this thread with the eventual solution.

[Andita]

A cam sensor will bring up an error code.

What error codes are you getting?

Had I been in your situation, I’d check for air leaking into the system via perhaps a bad seal or clamp or crack in plastic or similar. Logically to me, when the vehicle is cold, one would turn the key to the on position and wait for the glow plug light to go off. In this process the fuel pump in pumps fuel from the tank to the motor and this Ford has a self priming system. That’s why the vehicle starts when cold.

When the vehicle is hot and you turn the key to the on position the glow plug light goes off faster thereby because the engine is hotter thereby not priming the fuel system for the same amount of time compared to when the vehicle is cold.

I think you have air leaking into the fuel system somewhere. Start by checking the seal at the diesel filter housing as that’s the most likely place

We only had a crank sensor warning.

We are getting fuel to the injectors. The injectors just don't seem to be firing though.

I have installed a non return in the fuel line to prevent fuel going back to the tank. I also have tried turning the ignition on and off multiple times to allow glow plugs to warm up enough.
I am not sure if there is a fuel pump at the tank. It has a lift pump. When pumping it, we get fuel.

Thanks for the suggestions. I will check for leaks. I will put the final solution on this thread once we crack this issue.

[JayJayMuller]

I have a similar problem on my 2017 3.2 Ranger (Assuming it is the same engine). Several people told me to start at the CAM sensor and a diagnostics revealed a faulty CAM sensor.
Now can someone please tell me where the CAM sensor on the Engine is located, and is it an easy DIY?

[JayJayMuller]

Just a quick update.. I have replaced the CAM sensor, R700 at Ford. It seems to have solved the problem.