Camping for 5 and a code B license

[spoedig]

Willie, my male offspring was in similar situation a few months ago.

Decided on a Jurgens XT65 with TTT. So plenty space inside trailer, even with a slide-out fridge and ammo boxes on another slide, for extra tent, all chairs, fold-up kitchenette etc etc.

Hauls lekke with the Jimny.

Do you have the XT65 or Xt65B.If it is the XT 65 you are towing illegaly.Jimny GWM to low to tow without brakes.If you are causing an accident your assurance would not pay out.

[WillieJimny]

Kyk ek voel jou pyn. Ons was net-net te laat om die "free upgrade" te kry. My ouer sussie het nog die "free upgrade" na die EB lisensies gekry, al het sy net met 'n padpuisie getoets. Ek het al karavane en groot 5-ton sleepwaens gesleep, maar eers later agtergekom ek mag nie met 'n Kode B sulke goed sleep nie.

Ek weet ons mag nie en ek weet dis nie iets wat mens moet motiveer en bevorder nie en en en, maar magtig ek is bitter lus om 'n staatsamptenaar te verkwik met 'n paar Streetwise 2 vouchers om vir my my lisensie op te gradeer na 'n EB toe. Ek wil om lewe en dood nie weer deur die hele proses gaan net om te sit en "getoets" te word deur iemand wat jou net wil uitvang nie, so dit is iets wat eerlikwaar vir my baie aanloklik lyk.

Dis iets waarna ek ook baie op sien, en dan het ek nie juis tyd nie. Ek het vir my laaities gese hulle moet van die begin af code EC1 doen. HUlle moenie die selfde fout as ek maak nie

[GertMan]

Do you have the XT65 or Xt65B.If it is the XT 65 you are towing illegaly. Jimny GWM to low to tow without brakes. If you are causing an accident your assurance would not pay out.

Ja

[Henkus]

Padwa sal nie hou van grondpad nie. Teen 'n slakke pas is een ding, teen ry om daar te kom spoed.... nee wat.

Morne Skip, maak plek, ek en die vrou van die huis is mal oor ons Romany.

[BushNomad]

Chuck the stretchers, gazebo & pop-up kitchen etc IMO
Dont use big expansive Tents

Just use HD foam mattresses ( not air ….)
an awning off your roof-rack (not 270)
and a gullwing /cupboard as Kitchen etc
Use Domes or Oztents or Coleman tents etc


… if you have a wife and 2 older teenagers
you should have 4 capable set-up & pack-up workers … more than most …

P.S. A Gullwing Cupboard should be utilitarian & not a display cabinet.

KISS … Keep it Straight & Simple …

[Louw26!]

I had the same issue. the car and roof rack was fully loaded with kids and camping gear. At some points I felt very unsafe with the load on the roof and in the car and that I am putting the family at risk if something ugly happens.

What I did was, I rented a camping trailer with TTT for a long weekend, it had everything in it that was needed for basic easy camping. We just took the needed goods we tested it over the weekend and found it to be so much better than pitching up a dome tent with the extention and awning on the car. My wife and I always ended up irritated and lost the mood of camping... until the camp is set with the fire going and the sun set

I was able to setup the Echo MK1 TTT easily by myself, while the wife looked after the kids and sorted them out. Happy wify, happy Kids and happy paps

The next week I found a nice 4x4 camping trailer with everything from WBC for R30K. Best money I have spend in a long time.

The other nice thing is, the camping trailer is now "hak en gaan" as everything is there and has its spot. No need to rush packing and look for space for something or forgetting something at home.

Seeing you have a bakkie and box trailer, can't you maybe get someone to modify the trailer to add a TTT on to it? The nice thing with the bakkie is you have lekker space to add a spare dome tent for the kids if needed and other camping things.

[TJWM]

Ons het vir so 5 jaar ge-tentkamp. Teen die 5 de jaar het ons 20 nagte per jaar gekamp. Maar die 2 dag kampe het my onder gekry, dis net te veel moeite, Tente, kos kratte, kombuis tafels, kleure kaste, stretcher beds etc Vrydag inlaai, opslaan, Sondag afslaan en weer uitlaai en weg pak.

Toe kry ons die XT65B in 2018. Ek het EB1 lisensie. Dit was al baie beter om Vrydag net te hak en Sondag net weer af te hak. Maar die opslaan Vrydag en afslaan Sondag het steeds 'n uur + geneem. Maar ten spyte hiervan kamp ons toe 95 nagte in die volgende 3.5 jaar.

Ek koop toe die Imagine Comfortvan, en dit verbaas my dat hy niks swaarder sleep as die XT65B nie. Brandstof verbruik bly ook dieselfde. En net soos voorheen ry ek steeds gemaklik 1000 per dag.

Ek het die awning ge-upgrade, stort gebou, opwas area bygevoeg en werksopervlak rondom yskas bygevoeg.

Nou slaan ek binne 20 minute Vrydag rustig op en weer selfde tyd, Sondag af. Ek sien selfs kans om met hom te toer (een nag op 'n plek oor te slaap).

Die karavaan kamp net so gemaklik, met kos en eetgerei wat direk in kombuis in gaan en klere direk in kaste. Tandeborsel, roll-on en shampoo bly sommer in karavaan. So ook stoele, pot, pan, braai rooster, ligte en chargers.

Met ingeboude geyser, was ons en almal wat saam kamp altyd skottelgoed, by die karavaan. So daar word nie skottels rondgedra nie. Selfde ook met stort.

Wanneer ons lank staan, 5 dae plus, neem ek ekstra sykante vir Awning saam.
Wanneer ons off the grid gaan, neem ek ekstra solar panele saam.

Nou Reeds 105 nagte met die setup gekamp.

Regards
Tobie

[Ratelrooi]

Ek weet dis 'n schlep, maar gaan doen net die EB lisensie, ek het dit so paar jaar terug gedoen. Ek het die learners en die toets binne 'n maand gedoen. Jy gaan jouself frustreer met klein waentjies en pop up karavaantjies. Ek vat eerder eenkeer daai frustrasie om die toets te doen as om vir altyd so te sukkel.

Kyk dit bly darem lekker om groot karavaan te kan sleep, jou gesin (lees Vrou) kamp gerieflik en jy weet jy doen dit wettig.

[bigboy529]

17,12 and 2

Ek sien nie regtig wat die probleem is, met die 2 laaities in die mix behoord kamp opslaan geen moeite vir jou te wees.
Stop bakkie, laai mamma se stoel en pappa se stoel uit, laai mamma se drankie en pappa se bier uit, vat vir sussie en gaan sit rustig onder 'n boom terwyl dinge gebeur.

I'd look at a trailer setup if I were you, not a small caravan, since it will most probably be a older road caravan and they don't do gravel roads very well.

I've always loved the idea of a blank canvis, you can start very basic with a Jurgens XT or Metalian as mentioned, then over time build it to exactly what you want as the budget and needs are there.

I have a friend who bought his XT140 years ago and for a couple of months he didn't even have a TTT on it, he still camped with his ground tent till he properly decided what exactly he wanted.

[hatjohan]

Not the question you asked, or the answer you seeked - but if was your age, I would just upgrade my license. You still have many years of camping ahead of you, and the variables influencing that, are in constant flux, so do it, rather earlier than later.

[Makro]

The wife and I used a Wildebeest Kalfie for about 3 years, after tent camping. It worked great, and a lot less hassle than the tent setup. Then came along out first born, and I sold the Kalfie for a Sprite Scout. Only realised the Scout is illegal to tow with a B license after our 3rd trip....never checked properly. I had the weight in my mind as 950kg's and not 750....

The Scout is nice and light, easy to set up etc, and a lot more comfortable with the little one around, she us now almost 2 years old, than what the trailer setup was.

I have upgraded my B to EB about a month ago, as mentioned the Scout is illegal to tow on B. So now I might just as well sell the Scout and buy a bigger caravan ! It is a mission, but just so much more worth it.

Road caravans do not do well on gravel, even the Scout I have had to repair a door that came off on a fairly good gravel road !

[Indabelly]

Seeing we are the same age, I would strongly suggest doing your EB. I did mine 3 years ago and never looked back. In terms of trailer/caravan options it opens up a whole new world.

Edit:
As jy daar klaar is kan jy kies en keur wat jou hart begeer. Daar is baie opsies wat kamp aansienlik makliker maak. Niks meer swart Addis kratte nie. Mens kan net soveel keer vra "waar het ons nou weer die Blitz en braaitang gepak?"

[Graeme McConnachie]

Skipper Oyster Family. Code B, easy set up, well built and handles D roads no problem at all. Integrated add rooms etc. Look at there Website Skipper tent trailers

I second this, best move we ever made. Go to the Skipper web site & see what is on offer.

Best & most obliging & honest business people I have ever dealt with!!!!

Cheers
Graeme

[Southerndreams]

Look at an second hand Echo 1

[ViperR]

Did my EB last year, it was an easy process. You not to far from Krugersdorp. Speak to Deon at Agape, he makes the process quick and simple.

[Danajeep]

Hi Willie. Ek kamp met 'n groot Tentco Boabab met 'n vol "extention" en alles wat nodig is en wat daarmee saamgaan. Ek het my standaard 6voet Karet waentjie met 'n toe 'nose cone' omskep in my kampwaentjie. Ek het 'n raam op die deksel gesit, weerskante twee 110mm PVC buise aangebring, sy spaarwiel onder uitgehaal en na die 'nose cone' verskuif. My tent, grondsyle, stormnet en al die groot goed wat eerste by die kampplek nodig is word op die rak gepak, met al die kamp "meubels" en kombuis benodighede en Port-a-Pottie binne in die waentjie. Baie, indien nie die meeste kampplekke bied ook 'n diens (teen vergoeding natuurelik) aan om jou tent op en af te slaan. Dit is verseker die moeite werd. Ek is 72, 'n enkellopende wewenaar en kamp nog lekker met my groot tent.

[Vijaygza]

Ons het vir so 5 jaar ge-tentkamp. Teen die 5 de jaar het ons 20 nagte per jaar gekamp. Maar die 2 dag kampe het my onder gekry, dis net te veel moeite, Tente, kos kratte, kombuis tafels, kleure kaste, stretcher beds etc Vrydag inlaai, opslaan, Sondag afslaan en weer uitlaai en weg pak.

Toe kry ons die XT65B in 2018. Ek het EB1 lisensie. Dit was al baie beter om Vrydag net te hak en Sondag net weer af te hak. Maar die opslaan Vrydag en afslaan Sondag het steeds 'n uur + geneem. Maar ten spyte hiervan kamp ons toe 95 nagte in die volgende 3.5 jaar.

Ek koop toe die Imagine Comfortvan, en dit verbaas my dat hy niks swaarder sleep as die XT65B nie. Brandstof verbruik bly ook dieselfde. En net soos voorheen ry ek steeds gemaklik 1000 per dag.

Ek het die awning ge-upgrade, stort gebou, opwas area bygevoeg en werksopervlak rondom yskas bygevoeg.

Nou slaan ek binne 20 minute Vrydag rustig op en weer selfde tyd, Sondag af. Ek sien selfs kans om met hom te toer (een nag op 'n plek oor te slaap).

What is an EB1 license? I don't have it on my license card.

Die karavaan kamp net so gemaklik, met kos en eetgerei wat direk in kombuis in gaan en klere direk in kaste. Tandeborsel, roll-on en shampoo bly sommer in karavaan. So ook stoele, pot, pan, braai rooster, ligte en chargers.

Met ingeboude geyser, was ons en almal wat saam kamp altyd skottelgoed, by die karavaan. So daar word nie skottels rondgedra nie. Selfde ook met stort.

Wanneer ons lank staan, 5 dae plus, neem ek ekstra sykante vir Awning saam.
Wanneer ons off the grid gaan, neem ek ekstra solar panele saam.

Nou Reeds 105 nagte met die setup gekamp.

Regards
Tobie

[wessa1999]

Currently we camp using 2 canvas tents, stretchers, sleeping bags, a Tentco gazebo, pop up kitchen, tables, camping chairs etc etc etc.
All of this gets chucked in a box trailer and off we go.
My problem is packing and pitching camp is a huge job especially if we only camp 1 or 2 nights.

I would like some ideas on how to simplify this to make it easier, problem is I have a code B license so a big caravan is out of the quesion.

So will a trailer towable with a code B license a TTT and A kitchen make life easier for me? Will there be enough space for 5 camping chairs and a second tent.

Please assist with some ideas.

Edit: maybe I should ad. Pleant of packing space because we use the double cab, So much more practical than a SUV

I like the idea of a small caravan however I am not so sure how well they will do on bad dirtroads and in the rough.

I used to have the same set-up! I tour into African countries 3-4 times a year. We use karma quip and Oztents with a 270 big country awning. I bought a Drifta oztent bag to speed up packing up time. My storage system is set-up for touring. Takes me around 10 mins to set-up alone for Solo trips or with friends the same time for two tents. Roof rack is essential. Keep everything organised, tent pegs etc in a box all together.

[WillieJimny]

Thanks for all the inputs.
So we bought a Jurgens XT 120.
We were considering something smaller but this one came around for R40k with a Swomaster fridge, Howling moon tent with ad a room and roofrack with table slides so we could not let the oppurtunity pass.
Will have to het the EB license sorted now.

[WillieJimny]

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