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    Default New Mercedes-AMG C63 - no more V8

    Merc have slotted in a four-cylinder 2.0-litre engine, made it into a plug-in hybrid to give it a total output of 500kW and 1,020Nm and in the process dumped the V8.

    To make the worlds most powerful four cylinder able to produce 350kW and 545Nm is no easy task, and its a peach to be sure.
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    Default Re: New Mercedes-AMG C63 - no more V8

    Quote Originally Posted by 4ePajero View Post
    Carwow has already tested it against the old one and the new one is indeed faster.

    Can't beat the sound of the v8 though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooba View Post
    Carwow has already tested it against the old one and the new one is indeed faster.

    Can't beat the sound of the v8 though
    faster yes, better... I doubt it. Time will tell if the public will buy a 4 cylinder AMG.

    "The real sound of the engine is piped into the cabin via a pressure sensor in the exhaust system and also modulated via exterior loudspeakers, I suppose another reason for the chit chat.

    Weighing in at 89kg, the C63s battery has a capacity of 6.1kWh and boasts a continuous output of 70kW and a peak output of 150kW for 10 seconds."

    Crunch the numbers and you only have about 4min of battery power available, the reality is in 95% of "hard" city driving where you squirt and coast you wont notice the battery running down. It is nice that you can drive on electric only.

    350kw and 545nm out of a 2L engine is not a lot, we almost get that from a 10+ year old Nissan engine without anything too fancy. HOWEVER that power from production engine you have a 5 year/100km maintenance plan on, now that is special and brave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mullerza View Post
    faster yes, better... I doubt it. Time will tell if the public will buy a 4 cylinder AMG.

    "The real sound of the engine is piped into the cabin via a pressure sensor in the exhaust system and also modulated via exterior loudspeakers, I suppose another reason for the chit chat.

    Weighing in at 89kg, the C63s battery has a capacity of 6.1kWh and boasts a continuous output of 70kW and a peak output of 150kW for 10 seconds."

    Crunch the numbers and you only have about 4min of battery power available, the reality is in 95% of "hard" city driving where you squirt and coast you wont notice the battery running down. It is nice that you can drive on electric only.

    350kw and 545nm out of a 2L engine is not a lot, we almost get that from a 10+ year old Nissan engine without anything too fancy. HOWEVER that power from production engine you have a 5 year/100km maintenance plan on, now that is special and brave.

    100% Anton, lets see how long these engines last. Suzuki is famous for 1000HP's from two litres, see their Pikes Peak cars, but, its rebuilt after every hill climb.

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    Default Re: New Mercedes-AMG C63 - no more V8

    sies gaan weg bledddie electric stront
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    Default Re: New Mercedes-AMG C63 - no more V8

    Quote Originally Posted by WAJ View Post
    sies gaan weg bledddie electric stront
    This car is going to do really well........... for M5 sales

    The current M5 is a monster and sounds the part without using speakers
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    Default Re: New Mercedes-AMG C63 - no more V8

    I wonder what you will hear in the speakers. Maybe an electric motor doing a star delta startup. 🤣

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    Quote Originally Posted by mullerza View Post
    This car is going to do really well........... for M5 sales

    The current M5 is a monster and sounds the part without using speakers
    Think they will shove this 4 pot into the Eclass aswell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooba View Post
    Think they will shove this 4 pot into the Eclass aswell?
    at almost R2.5mil this is very close to competing with the M5
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    Default Re: New Mercedes-AMG C63 - no more V8

    Quote Originally Posted by mullerza View Post
    This car is going to do really well........... for M5 sales

    The current M5 is a monster and sounds the part without using speakers
    All about knowing your target market... I think C63 sales will show them that this was a mistake. Keep the V8, that was always the selling point, and introduce the 2.0 hybrid as its own separate model...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarshallGTi View Post
    All about knowing your target market... I think C63 sales will show them that this was a mistake. Keep the V8, that was always the selling point, and introduce the 2.0 hybrid as its own separate model...
    The exact point of getting the amg is power and speed really. If I can outpace your v8 with my 4-pot, does your v8 then make any sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by byaru1 View Post
    The exact point of getting the amg is power and speed really. If I can outpace your v8 with my 4-pot, does your v8 then make any sense?
    no, its more than just the power. I get goosies just cruising and hearing the v8 burble, no 4 pot with speakers will replace that
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    Default Re: New Mercedes-AMG C63 - no more V8

    Quote Originally Posted by byaru1 View Post
    The exact point of getting the amg is power and speed really. If I can outpace your v8 with my 4-pot, does your v8 then make any sense?
    Nah, if speed is what you're after, buy an M3/M4... The 55AMG's and 63AMG's were never about being the fastest, but definitely the loudest and most lairy...
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    Default Re: New Mercedes-AMG C63 - no more V8

    Quote Originally Posted by byaru1 View Post
    The exact point of getting the amg is power and speed really. If I can outpace your v8 with my 4-pot, does your v8 then make any sense?
    Nope, most AMG sales, if not all, are driven by the engine noise. As a non Merc fan, I have to admit they make the best sounding v8 engines.

    There are already rumours that this 4pot hybrid will not make it in the next C63 AMG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by byaru1 View Post
    The exact point of getting the amg is power and speed really. If I can outpace your v8 with my 4-pot, does your v8 then make any sense?
    A V8 ALWAYS makes sense! Cubes baby, cubes!
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