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    Afternoon All.

    I can get 5x BF Goodrich K02s 265/75/R16 Fitted for R 23 000-00 Vat In Or 5 x Radar RT+ for R 19 000-00

    I dont know what a Radar tyre is but the reviews seemed pretty good.

    Previous 76 had Dunlop AT3GMs but they are stupidly expensive now. 5k more than a K02

    Any ideas?

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    I would go Radar. Many guys on our FJ group use them and are very happy
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    Default Re: BF Or Radar For Land Cruiser

    Quote Originally Posted by BruceHun View Post
    I would go Radar. Many guys on our FJ group use them and are very happy
    Jup.

    Also look at the Sailun options.
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    If you go BFG, make sure they are not manufactured in Thailand.
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    Wow, I did not think it would be tipped that far into the other camp so quickly

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    BFGís are over rated.
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    I did not like the KM'3s. Replaced them with the AT3GM's and was much happier.

    Had a better look at the Radars a little closer now and they seem to be quite impressive.

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    Default Re: BF Or Radar For Land Cruiser

    Quote Originally Posted by mcowell View Post
    If you go BFG, make sure they are not manufactured in Thailand.
    i approached michelin about this and they wouldnt be drawn on it . They would just give the standard statement which is they are all the same spec. By the time one of their reps got back to me i had already bought coopers which are manufactured in the states . Time will tell if that was the right decision . The fitment place told me they could not gaurantee if BFG would be from thailand or states as they dont get a choice when they order . That was first alignment , maybe a bigger chain like twt might help if you want bfg

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    I have two set BFG KOs from Thailand, no issues. Radar 3ply and Dunlop the AT3M are also good in terms of sidewall punctures, but doubt if they will give the kilos of BFG.

    But all 3ply side tyre dont like low pressures, get overheated and fails.
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    Thank You

    Leaning towards the Radars, have read some pretty good reviews.
    Slightly worried about the noise but I mean, its not like the vehicle is very quiet anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nys View Post
    Jup.

    Also look at the Sailun options.

    No longer sold in SA....


    I have a set of 285/70 R17 MTRs on my Patrol about half worn.

    I don't know what to get next, because the Sailuns are off the local market. I have been extremely happy with them...
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    Iíve only seen the Radarís when in Namibia but theyíre not sold in Angola, so Iíve no experience with them. The Chinese brands donít last here. Sidewalls always go when off-road. Iím on my 2nd set of KO2ís in 8 yrs (8 tyres between cruiser and caravan) and have had only 2 punctures in that time. Both were center tread, and plugged with tire plugs. I run my KO2ís at 20 psi/1.4 bar while on corrugations on my 200 series, and Iím doing 80kph. Iíve never had a sidewall issue while aired down or aired up on my KO2ís. Now, I donít expect to get 80k kms out of them, but rather am happy to get 3 yrs of hard use before the tread is worn and torn down to nothing. The big deal for me is that I can work them hard off-road in the sand, rocks, rivers, corrugations and such, and then air them back up and happily cruise at 120-130kph without concern for my familyís safety.

    My 79 came with Grabber X3ís when I bought it, and they were fairly new. I bought a spare, and that thing was more expensive than any of my KO2ís were. I run them like my KO2ís. They work hard, are aired down a lot, but they wear out faster. Iíll go with KO3ís or the new HD Terrain for my 79 some time in the next 6-8 months.
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    Quick update on this.

    So I went and had a look at the Radars and they look very nice.
    I am going to try a set of them and see how it goes.

    Most of my travel will be in SA and if there is an emergency I could always buy another brand to get home.

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    Nee wat, dont think you will be disappointed.

    I bought 2 Apterra AT2's some time back for my farm vehicle, so far so good, but I see the price is significant more now then what I paid some time back.
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    Default Re: BF Or Radar For Land Cruiser

    I changed the Bf's on my next gen raptor to Radar RT+ as soon as I got it. Not a fan of the Bf's.
    Guy who bought the BF's from me gave me a stange look while loading them in the back of his cruiser. Clearly he is a BF fanboy. Couldn't understand why I would change them for Radars.

    So far have done 12k km with the Radars and they are great.

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    Twenty years ago, BF A/T was my go to tyre and it did well, the last set I bought didnít do well at all. Poor traction on wet tar and disappointing mileage.

    I then changed to Cooper ST Maxx, very happy.

    I bought a Defender which came with brand new BF Mud Terrain, got 90k km on it, with a bit of life left. Bit of road noise, but otherwise a good tyre, although towards 90k km a lot of punctures.

    I have Gripmax Mud Rage on my one Cruiser, very happy and looks like itís gonna give good mileage.

    But my go to tyre is still Cooper ST Maxx, I hear complaints of side walls developing cracks, but in 12 years I have never experienced it. Itís a tyre that will give you good mileage, no road noise, good traction and from my experience, a strong side wall. Also no punctures.

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    In the last week a put Radar RT+ tyres on both my Land Cruiser double cab and Nissan Patrol. Cruiser on 33" and Patrol on 35" my Patrol had Cooper STT pro's on. The price on new Coopers is way more than the RT+ tyres.

    The price on the 33" was about R4300/tyre - bought four and the 35" was R4900/tyre, bought five. Got R12000 back for the Cruiser's five tyres with only 600km on it, nice deal for me. I like the looks of the RT+ and the reviews are good.

    I will certainly keep a close eye on the performance. I do not do high milage on both vehicles, had to replace the Coopers on my Patrol due to cracking of the sidewalls - probably done about 35000km to 40000km on them (tyres was put on in 2016 if I remember correctly), still with lots of tread left.

    Time will tell if it was a good decision

    Road noise not worse than the Coopers but certainly more on the Cruiser that had Dunlop AT1's on.
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    Awesome, seems positive.
    Will be fitting them today

    Still undecided on suspension but that is another can of worms all together.

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    I've just returned from a 15k km trip through Namibia, Angola, Bots and Zim. Driven some of the worst rock tracks in northern Namibia and Angola. I had a set of Radar RT+ on the van with 50k kms odd before leaving. I reckon that will easily do another 30k km, but as I was going into some quite remote areas I replaced them with a new set. I'll stick the older ones back on this week. We had one sidewall cut, which I had vulcanised in Angola, and carried on. I had a replacement tyre sent up from Windhoek to Tsumeb. Then managed to pick up a steel spike in Mutare, in Zim. Excellent tyres.

    I did have the cooper st maxx on before and the Radars are the only tyres that I feel give the same performance. Had bf Goodrich at one stage but their stopping performance on wet tar was just dangerous.

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    So far so good!
    It is a rainy day in Cape Town and I could not help my self and did a brake test.
    It is still not great but it is better than the Bfs

    I was watching a video over the weekend and I saw Bushlore had fitted the Patriots. I think its the same thing?

    Time will tell but so far I am quite happy.

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