Fireplace recommondations

[mullerza]

Yes I know, that's why I said not necessarily better.
But surely it would be a lot safer not having to deal with ceilings, roof trusses, roof insulation, possible water pipes and electric cables?

Going even more off topic now, I cringe every time I see a fire place in a thatch roof house or built in braai in a lapa, it can probably be done "safely"to keep the insurance happy, but I can't really imagine myself sleeping soundly in such a house with a fire going through the night.

If the pipe goes straight out the wall you are loosing a significant portion of the heating, always run the flue as far as possible inside the house.

Option 1, pipe inside to below ceiling 2 x 90 deg bends to take pipe through wall and then up
Option 2, pipe throught ceiling and roof - use double walled pipe with insulation for portion through ceiling and roof

I have both setups in the house

[Morne - Skip]

If the pipe goes straight out the wall you are loosing a significant portion of the heating, always run the flue as far as possible inside the house.

Option 1, pipe inside to below ceiling 2 x 90 deg bends to take pipe through wall and then up
Option 2, pipe throught ceiling and roof - use double walled pipe with insulation for portion through ceiling and roof

I have both setups in the house

Do the 90's affect the flow/draft at all compared to your straight pipe? Im looking at the 90 option

[JacoE]

Perhaps this will be of some help as well. So when they installed my fireplace I asked the installer about the distance to the wall and he assured me it was fine like this. Needless to say the first winter the wall started to crack and the tiles in the bathroom on the other side of the wall was crazy hot, that is actually how we realised the issue first.

So I started to look into it and this was indeed a fireplace that the heat does not only go to the front but in 360 degrees. So I had to keep the heat from the wall.

Now this might not be everyone's taste, but my best solution was:
I got high temperature insulation sheets they apparently used in kilns installed it with a space to hopefully create a cavity effect.
Visually was the problem so I finished it off with a corrugated sheet.

The part that surprised me most, was the change after that. The amount of heat that the corrugated sheet reflected, especially from the flue pipe, which I knew was a huge heat contributor, was crazy.

Sorry, this is the only photos I can find now

[mullerza]

Do the 90's affect the flow/draft at all compared to your straight pipe? Im looking at the 90 option

Not that I have noticed, to be fair the straight pipe is 125mm and the 90's 150mm so not a direct comparison

[Stranger]

@JacoE

What you say is true, my Jetmaster is a double skinned 360 deg one and we also had to install a good way away from the wall. Mine is next to an outside double wall so no ill effects, but you can feel the wall is warm.

[Stranger]

Just went and got 4 bags now. R70 for 20 kg of broken bits. So a little less than a 9kg gas bottle, will do the job better and probably will last longer.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

https://youtu.be/Gn60NUcwisk

[Raymondh]

I Must admit I like this, it looks very nice!! simple and I think very effective.

I need somebody to come and service my anthracite fireplace its old.
I might have to redo the pipes as they are single wall straight up. in the roof they did put insulation around the pipe, but outside of the roof, it single stainless steel pipe, so I need somebody with the required expertise to advise and fix.
Any suggestions around Pretoria?

Regards

Perhaps this will be of some help as well. So when they installed my fireplace I asked the installer about the distance to the wall and he assured me it was fine like this. Needless to say the first winter the wall started to crack and the tiles in the bathroom on the other side of the wall was crazy hot, that is actually how we realised the issue first.

So I started to look into it and this was indeed a fireplace that the heat does not only go to the front but in 360 degrees. So I had to keep the heat from the wall.

Now this might not be everyone's taste, but my best solution was:
I got high temperature insulation sheets they apparently used in kilns installed it with a space to hopefully create a cavity effect.
Visually was the problem so I finished it off with a corrugated sheet.

The part that surprised me most, was the change after that. The amount of heat that the corrugated sheet reflected, especially from the flue pipe, which I knew was a huge heat contributor, was crazy.

Sorry, this is the only photos I can find now

[mullerza]

Just went and got 4 bags now. R70 for 20 kg of broken bits. So a little less than a 9kg gas bottle, will do the job better and probably will last longer.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

https://youtu.be/Gn60NUcwisk

I get a big delivery of at least 250 bags from them every winter. Thanks for the tip about bags of broken bits because I invariably break up a few logs to get it going

[Stranger]

Pleasure, I find the broken bits works just as well in an open fire and far less messy than wood.

[WAJ]

I would not mind a nice fireplace, but, then, perhaps I want a dual purpose setup, one that doubles as an internal braai, AND a fireplace

[Capt Chaos]

avoid steel - rusts.

go cast iron - just installed a big NoordFlam with stainless flue. double flue through roof.
expensive but efficient.
cc

[SBSP]

I have the steel one.

Looks a bit like this https://www.lifespacesa.com/cdn/shop...2826&width=823

There's no rust on it.

I think the one I have is too small from the area because its doesnt make much of a difference. If I had to buy again , It will definitely buy a cast iron one.

[hatjohan]

I would not mind a nice fireplace, but, then, perhaps I want a dual purpose setup, one that doubles as an internal braai, AND a fireplace

Just move to the Cape of storms, standard issue there

[PJ SA]

Promised SWAMBO we'd buy in Spring because they too expensive in winter. Looking at 7KW-9KW with flue kit, hoping to get away with around R25k for everything.

Looking at Kratki K7 and Nordflam Primo at the moment. Are these 2 decent options?

https://kratki.co.za/shop/kratki-k7/
https://gcfires.co.za/showroom/nordflam-primo/

Had a question regarding flue size....I see the outlet at the top of the fireplaces seem to have quite a variety of sizes depending on the brand. Do you need to get a specific kit for that exact size of are the standard kits able to fit within a certain size range?