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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy529 View Post
    Yes I know, that's why I said not necessarily better.
    But surely it would be a lot safer not having to deal with ceilings, roof trusses, roof insulation, possible water pipes and electric cables?

    Going even more off topic now, I cringe every time I see a fire place in a thatch roof house or built in braai in a lapa, it can probably be done "safely"to keep the insurance happy, but I can't really imagine myself sleeping soundly in such a house with a fire going through the night.
    If the pipe goes straight out the wall you are loosing a significant portion of the heating, always run the flue as far as possible inside the house.

    Option 1, pipe inside to below ceiling 2 x 90 deg bends to take pipe through wall and then up
    Option 2, pipe throught ceiling and roof - use double walled pipe with insulation for portion through ceiling and roof

    I have both setups in the house
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    Quote Originally Posted by mullerza View Post
    If the pipe goes straight out the wall you are loosing a significant portion of the heating, always run the flue as far as possible inside the house.

    Option 1, pipe inside to below ceiling 2 x 90 deg bends to take pipe through wall and then up
    Option 2, pipe throught ceiling and roof - use double walled pipe with insulation for portion through ceiling and roof

    I have both setups in the house
    Do the 90's affect the flow/draft at all compared to your straight pipe? Im looking at the 90 option

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    Perhaps this will be of some help as well. So when they installed my fireplace I asked the installer about the distance to the wall and he assured me it was fine like this. Needless to say the first winter the wall started to crack and the tiles in the bathroom on the other side of the wall was crazy hot, that is actually how we realised the issue first.

    So I started to look into it and this was indeed a fireplace that the heat does not only go to the front but in 360 degrees. So I had to keep the heat from the wall.

    Now this might not be everyone's taste, but my best solution was:
    I got high temperature insulation sheets they apparently used in kilns installed it with a space to hopefully create a cavity effect.
    Visually was the problem so I finished it off with a corrugated sheet.

    The part that surprised me most, was the change after that. The amount of heat that the corrugated sheet reflected, especially from the flue pipe, which I knew was a huge heat contributor, was crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morne - Skip View Post
    Do the 90's affect the flow/draft at all compared to your straight pipe? Im looking at the 90 option
    Not that I have noticed, to be fair the straight pipe is 125mm and the 90's 150mm so not a direct comparison
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    @JacoE

    What you say is true, my Jetmaster is a double skinned 360 deg one and we also had to install a good way away from the wall. Mine is next to an outside double wall so no ill effects, but you can feel the wall is warm.
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    Just went and got 4 bags now. R70 for 20 kg of broken bits. So a little less than a 9kg gas bottle, will do the job better and probably will last longer.

    Winner winner chicken dinner.

    https://youtu.be/Gn60NUcwisk
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    I Must admit I like this, it looks very nice!! simple and I think very effective.

    I need somebody to come and service my anthracite fireplace its old.
    I might have to redo the pipes as they are single wall straight up. in the roof they did put insulation around the pipe, but outside of the roof, it single stainless steel pipe, so I need somebody with the required expertise to advise and fix.
    Any suggestions around Pretoria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JacoE View Post
    Perhaps this will be of some help as well. So when they installed my fireplace I asked the installer about the distance to the wall and he assured me it was fine like this. Needless to say the first winter the wall started to crack and the tiles in the bathroom on the other side of the wall was crazy hot, that is actually how we realised the issue first.

    So I started to look into it and this was indeed a fireplace that the heat does not only go to the front but in 360 degrees. So I had to keep the heat from the wall.

    Now this might not be everyone's taste, but my best solution was:
    I got high temperature insulation sheets they apparently used in kilns installed it with a space to hopefully create a cavity effect.
    Visually was the problem so I finished it off with a corrugated sheet.

    The part that surprised me most, was the change after that. The amount of heat that the corrugated sheet reflected, especially from the flue pipe, which I knew was a huge heat contributor, was crazy.

    Sorry, this is the only photos I can find now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranger View Post
    Just went and got 4 bags now. R70 for 20 kg of broken bits. So a little less than a 9kg gas bottle, will do the job better and probably will last longer.

    Winner winner chicken dinner.

    https://youtu.be/Gn60NUcwisk
    I get a big delivery of at least 250 bags from them every winter. Thanks for the tip about bags of broken bits because I invariably break up a few logs to get it going
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    Pleasure, I find the broken bits works just as well in an open fire and far less messy than wood.
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    Default Re: Fireplace recommondations

    I would not mind a nice fireplace, but, then, perhaps I want a dual purpose setup, one that doubles as an internal braai, AND a fireplace
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    Default Re: Fireplace recommondations

    avoid steel - rusts.

    go cast iron - just installed a big NoordFlam with stainless flue. double flue through roof.
    expensive but efficient.
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    Default Re: Fireplace recommondations

    I have the steel one.

    Looks a bit like this https://www.lifespacesa.com/cdn/shop...2826&width=823

    There's no rust on it.

    I think the one I have is too small from the area because its doesnt make much of a difference. If I had to buy again , It will definitely buy a cast iron one.

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    Default Re: Fireplace recommondations

    Quote Originally Posted by WAJ View Post
    I would not mind a nice fireplace, but, then, perhaps I want a dual purpose setup, one that doubles as an internal braai, AND a fireplace
    Just move to the Cape of storms, standard issue there



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