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    Default Re: First time 4x4 purchase - the time has come at last... probably

    Quote Originally Posted by Emmie L View Post
    Nope. Ek kies nog. Dit is soos daardie Sjinese boks puzzles waar nog 'n laaitjie en nog 'n laaitjie oopmaak. Nes ek dag al die besluite is gemaak pop daar nog 'n rondte op.

    Wil ek 'accesorize'? Indien ja, watter? Wat is 'nodig'? En wat is foefies? En kan ek van die fÍnsie goed kry of is dit alles in of alles uit. Dit is meer besluite as waarvoor ek lus is.

    En ek moet nog versekering uit sorteer. Kar koop het baie admin gekoppel daaraan. Ek is seker dit sou makliker gewees het as ek geweet het wat die helfte daarvan is...
    Alles is foefies, behalwe die compressor, banddrukmeter en bandherstel-stel.
    As mens rowwe roetes ry, ook onderbak-beskerming. Maar ons weet nou al jy gaan nie dit doen nie.

    Maar party van die foefies maak mens se lewe regtig makliker...
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    Nodig = daais waarsonder jy nie kan klaar kom nie ...

    Maar soos my skoonpa gereeld kwyt raak, wanneer mens jou oog op 'n nuwe het dan sal jy maklik 20 goeie verskonings kan uitdink oor hoekom jy dit werklik benodig ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmie L View Post
    Nope. Ek kies nog. Dit is soos daardie Sjinese boks puzzles waar nog 'n laaitjie en nog 'n laaitjie oopmaak. Nes ek dag al die besluite is gemaak pop daar nog 'n rondte op.

    Wil ek 'accesorize'? Indien ja, watter? Wat is 'nodig'? En wat is foefies? En kan ek van die fÍnsie goed kry of is dit alles in of alles uit. Dit is meer besluite as waarvoor ek lus is.

    En ek moet nog versekering uit sorteer. Kar koop het baie admin gekoppel daaraan. Ek is seker dit sou makliker gewees het as ek geweet het wat die helfte daarvan is...
    Jy laat my dink aan n destydse Topgear episode. Hammond was getaak om: 1. n Groepie girls te gaan aansÍ om gereed te maak vir 'n troue, 2. 'n Span Subaru tegnici te gaan aansÍ om n WRX STi sonder wiele en remme tydren-gereed te kry.

    Die WRX was reg om te ry nog voor die girls besluit het wat om aan te trek.

    Dis jou voorreg Emmie, all in good time.
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    Analysis Paralysis

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ SA View Post
    Analysis Paralysis
    My name is Emmie and I'm an over thinker...

    Die twee keer wat ek geduik het sonder my gewone metode het dit my duur gekos. So ek slak nou maar aan. Dit werk vir my.
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    Take your time Emmie L; the hunt is (almost) just as much fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by walkabout View Post
    Take your time Emmie L; the hunt is (almost) just as much fun!
    I'm not enjoying that part. I wish I could subcontract it to someone that would enjoy doing it. I don't have the spare capacity at the moment to enjoy the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmie L View Post
    I'm not enjoying that part. I wish I could subcontract it to someone that would enjoy doing it. I don't have the spare capacity at the moment to enjoy the process.
    I'm sure on this forum you'll get many volunteers!
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    Default Re: First time 4x4 purchase - the time has come at last... probably

    Do I want mud flaps or do I need them? And why are they thousands of rands? Aren't they just a strip of rubber?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmie L View Post
    Do I want mud flaps or do I need them? And why are they thousands of rands? Aren't they just a strip of rubber?
    To go on which vehicle??I would say if you plan on driving on gravel roads they will to some extent protect the body work. As far as the price, when last did you buy wiper blades, even they are ridiculously expensive.
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    Does the vehicle have side-steps? If it does, in my opinion, only if you are towing a trailer.
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    Nopes Rubicon is without side steps


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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmie L View Post
    Do I want mud flaps or do I need them? And why are they thousands of rands? Aren't they just a strip of rubber?
    If you are going to be on gravel roads (which I believe you will be), close your eyes and add them. But not knowing what vehicle it is, my advice is not fully qualified. Some designs are more prone to stone-chips on the rear "haunches" than others.

    My MUX even with mudflaps and sidesteps.
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    Ouch. I can only imagine how that hurts your heart. Thanks Jaco
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    I think you are fooling everybody just to get attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F250 View Post
    I think you are fooling everybody just to get attention.
    I think you can think whatever you want to think, if you are able to think, don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmie L View Post
    I think you can think whatever you want to think, if you are able to think, don't you think?

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    Die lintjie is cute, maar daardie rooi boks lyk of dit aan die middelmannetjie gaan vashaak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Connan View Post
    Does the vehicle have side-steps? If it does, in my opinion, only if you are towing a trailer.
    Does it have side steps? I don't know. I can't remember. I was distracted by having a drive a strange car in a strange place while talking to someone and trying to remember to check all the things I actually remembered to check. I'm not a multi tasker.
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    If you are still considering a Duster, here is my feedback with a little bias as possible (i've been driving a duster for the last 8 years):

    Pros:
    Of all the cars mentioned, the Duster will be the most comfortable on the highway and likely dirt roads too;
    It has a punchy 1.5 turbo diesel engine that is very commonly used in other cars - I would rather be in a Duster than the other options if I had to overtake a truck at 130kph;
    Fuel consumption was already mentioned. I get 6.5l / 100 combined driving. When I had a roofrack and a rooftop tent on, I still got 7.5l/100 long-term average;
    specialised components from renault take longer but lots of the consumable parts are very generic (oil filter, window wipers, shock absorbers, break pads etc.) and are hence easy to get and cheap;
    It is a soft roader but it has a ridiculously low first gear akin to a crawler gear (I looked it up and it has a very similar ratio to low range 2nd gear on a Hilux). This makes it more capable than most soft roaders;
    Cheap - good value for money;

    Cons:
    The low first gear means you change gears A LOT - cannot get through a green robot without changing to 2nd and there is no auto box available in the 4x4 diesel;
    It is a small, turbo-charged engine so whilst it has decent power, you need to get used to the turbo-lag and learn to drive it within the boost range;
    Its fairly heavy on suspension parts - ball joints, tie rod ends, shocks etc. They are fortunately quite cheap but do need to be changed more often than big 4x4s;
    It has decent ground clearance, unless you load the car. With 4 people plus baggage it tends to ride quite low.
    It is a basic car - no climate control, just a knob with AC on or off. Also no cruise control. You give up some luxuaries for the price.

    My experience
    The Duster is my daily drive and I've put 260 000 kms on it. For the versatility it gives you, I can't think of another car I would rather drive but it has its limits. Its not really a family car for overlanding. We used to use it extensively to overland when it was just my wife and I. We had a custom roof rack and a rooftop tent, removed the back seat to mount a fridge, dual battery system the works. However, when 2 became 3 and we had to account for a pram and extra stuff, there was simply not enough space. We then bought a 25 year old Prado as our overlander but I still use the Duster as my daily drive because it is light enough on fuel for that. In the 260 000 kms I've driven it, the only 'major' Maintenace item was the clutch (R17k). It has a dual mass flywheel to absorb vibrations but this builds up play over time and tends to make the clutch 'shudder' after 150 000 - 200 000km.

    Overall impression: probably the best little car for mixed use if you are single or a couple but a bit too small to use as an overlander for a whole family.

    Hope this helps!

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