First time 4x4 purchase - the time has come at last... probably

[kippie2]

It is about the bang for the buck. If it was something more powerful or roomier, I would have been OK whit that consumption, well, sort-off

Then you get the 3.2 V6 GV with the same consumption figures as the 2.4 Auto. 13l/100km and you have a lot of car with great power.
Also the 2.4 manual GV if far lighter on fuel than the auto.

[Moksa]

Hey guys

Sorry to Emmie for hijacking your post. I cant open a new post 😭.

I'm also in the market for a first time 4x4. I'm considering a 2012 auto fortuner 3d4d with 250k km and FSH . I also intend to eventually use this as a daily+-50km.
What are your expert opinions on this for long term ownership and reliability. Is the manual better than auto in terms of durability and reliability?

I have been considering 3tdi Prado used, but see that many had engine issues along the way. I am avoiding the 4l V6 due to consumption and prioritise long range. Is the price of parts and repairs on Prado's significantly more that tuners?

Feel free to add on any further advice that you feel necessary

Thanks (and apologies to Emmie)

[Emmie L]

Hey guys

Sorry to Emmie for hijacking your post. I cant open a new post 😭.

I'm also in the market for a first time 4x4. I'm considering a 2012 auto fortuner 3d4d with 250k km and FSH . I also intend to eventually use this as a daily+-50km.
What are your expert opinions on this for long term ownership and reliability. Is the manual better than auto in terms of durability and reliability?

I have been considering 3tdi Prado used, but see that many had engine issues along the way. I am avoiding the 4l V6 due to consumption and prioritise long range. Is the price of parts and repairs on Prado's significantly more that tuners?

Feel free to add on any further advice that you feel necessary

Thanks (and apologies to Emmie)

Moksa, I started one for you in the Toyota section where the Fortuner guys will see it and assist you better. Good luck. We will learn together how this fô by fô thing works.

[Mal Hannes]

Emmie it's time to give us some ideas of what you are thinking or planning.

Just imagine all the opinions already on here being repeated.

Pajero shorty is my choice for you.

[Emmie L]

Emmie it's time to give us some ideas of what you are thinking or planning.

Just imagine all the opinions already on here being repeated.

Pajero shorty is my choice for you.

Pajero shorty is my choice for me too. If only...

Sorry if the wait is hard. I'm a very slow decision maker. And in this case I'm paying for the consequences every month so I don't want regrets.

[DL Mike]

Pajero shorty is my choice for me too. If only...

Sorry if the wait is hard. I'm a very slow decision maker. And in this case I'm paying for the consequences every month so I don't want regrets.

My 2 cents, I think there will always be something you will regret; (price, milage, fuel consumption, colour, auto-manual, etc) that just isn’t quite what you wanted, it is just part of buying a used vehicle. After I purchased my Hilux, I regret it for the first 2-3 months (only due to the fuel consumption) Seven years later and the consumption has got worse (due to the bigger tyres) but I would not change it for anything. Point is, we buy to best our budget allows. In January I purchased a 2013 Suzuki Grand Vitara, it wasn’t quite what I wanted, but my budget was 120 grand and it was the only low milage 4x4 SUV that fitted into my budget.

[iandvl]

Pajero shorty is my choice for me too. If only...

Sorry if the wait is hard. I'm a very slow decision maker. And in this case I'm paying for the consequences every month so I don't want regrets.

We're all waiting for something. We're never "ready to get married" / "ready to have kids" etc.

I learnt a loooong time ago to just make things happen... You learn to work it out.

So just do it. Get that Jimny now...

[Hooly]

Pajero shorty is my choice for me too. If only...

Sorry if the wait is hard. I'm a very slow decision maker. And in this case I'm paying for the consequences every month so I don't want regrets.

Have you at least started test driving some of your considerations yet?

[Emmie L]

Have you at least started test driving some of your considerations yet?

I have. I test drove one option yesterday. I liked it.

[Morne - Skip]

I have. I test drove one option yesterday. I liked it.

Good

the 3.2 in the shorty Paj isn't AS thirsty as V6's ... luckily your office is close

[hatjohan]

Then you get the 3.2 V6 GV with the same consumption figures as the 2.4 Auto. 13l/100km and you have a lot of car with great power.
Also the 2.4 manual GV if far lighter on fuel than the auto.

That apparently is correct, although I doubt it that the manual would be "far" lighter on fuel. And a V6? - well that would have require discipline at another level

Anyway, I am not dissing a GV, just putting an actual consumption out there. That vehicle is almost history anyway, those that are on the road is getting long in the tooth now, and as with all higher km vehicles, a higher maintenance risk, if you did not initially bought it new or with low km's and looked after it.

Enjoy your GV!

[Hooly]

I have. I test drove one option yesterday. I liked it.

Don't so selfish then! Give us the feedback, which was it and what was your experience?

[PJ SA]

This is the 4x4 forum equivalent of OnlyFans...proper tease

[walkabout]

When one has to count you Rands (like most of us!) any of the Japanese bakkies , in whatever configuration that works for you, will do - only you will know if SC, extended cab or DC will work for you, same with 4x2 or 4x4.

If general SUV the Renault Duster, will do the job within its limitations obviously, or again the SUV version of the Japanese bakkies; and of course the Suzuki Jimny as mentioned.

If just you, then you probably don't need the size of the bakkie SUV's or the (relative) discomfort of a bakkie itself.

If just 1 or 2 people and you want a SUV the choices are probably Duster, Jimny or as said Pajero SWB, but I don't think you get them new anymore (and obviously if so will be quite a bit more than the other 2).

All of these should be very reliable which is even more important considering your "brief".

What I like about the Jimny is its excellent resale value once you decide it has served it purpose or does not work for you or you had enough or whatever, with the only negative being that it is not nippy, especially not on the open road. It's actually ok in town. If you can settle to cruise at a sedate pace and accept if you are stuck behind a truck you need to wait for open road ahead, but also behind you, then I think it is a wonderful choice.

Whatever your choice Emmile L, enjoy the hunt!

[Estee]

This the 4x4 forum equivalent of OnlyFans...proper tease

Cheap skate, buy the Premium Membership

[redone]

So, after many years of waiting I have aaalmost convinced myself to buy something that can properly leave the tar.

- I intend buying new because
I know nothing about cars and won't know if I buy a kat in die sak secondhand.
I don't want to invite additional reasons to end up on the side of the road.

- I have a modest budget as I live a modest life.
- I intend keeping my purchase long term.
- I'm a bit hesitant because I would have to finance a portion of it and I have never have car debt before, so I'm not 100% that I want to take that step.

I will not be buying by committee because that is not how one makes healthy life decisions. However, I thought you might have fun guessing which direction I'm might go. As I know you like to speculate and debate this might be a fun opportunity.

Any advise (of course disguised as opinion ) as to what I should be looking at as I enter this type of adventure enabling purchase?

Suggest going on to Autotrader select 4x4 and test drive a few in your price range

[Naes-Landy]

Suggest going on to Autotrader select 4x4 and test drive a few in your price range

Buying a 4x4 is a bit like chosing a puppy from a litter. You don’t. You let one chose you. In our case a Defender 90 TDi 300 chose us when we thought we wanted a VW Syncro with Cortina V6 motor. Defender was twice the price, and then some in the years that still follow. Zero regrets, and I mean that. Zero.

[Jeepiscool]

Is die geheim nou al uit?

[Emmie L]

Is die geheim nou al uit?

Nope. Ek kies nog. Dit is soos daardie Sjinese boks puzzles waar nog 'n laaitjie en nog 'n laaitjie oopmaak. Nes ek dag al die besluite is gemaak pop daar nog 'n rondte op.

Wil ek 'accesorize'? Indien ja, watter? Wat is 'nodig'? En wat is foefies? En kan ek van die fênsie goed kry of is dit alles in of alles uit. Dit is meer besluite as waarvoor ek lus is.

En ek moet nog versekering uit sorteer. Kar koop het baie admin gekoppel daaraan. Ek is seker dit sou makliker gewees het as ek geweet het wat die helfte daarvan is...

[Fluffy]

To make you procrastinate even more, have a look at the Chinese Jeep wannabees.

I studied DeBonos https://www.debono.com/Books/lateral...and-productive.

If you are battling between choosing A or B then what you choose doesn't matter.

I learned years ago to make a decision and live with it.