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    Default Re: Ford LION V6 disappoints...again (not the crank this time)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ha-Ka View Post
    Here we go again!!!
    The critics are rejoicing...

    Car manufacturers should really only appoint the "famous experts" from this forum...
    You really should not find your identity in the brand of vehicle you drive.
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    Default Re: Ford LION V6 disappoints...again (not the crank this time)

    Ek het so 5 jaar terug besef dat ek geen van die nuwe voertuie meer vertrou nie. Ek, vir my, het toe begin soek vir voertuie waarvor ek sal settle om mee gelukkig te ry tot eide van my dae.

    Ek het nou genoeg, in berging of in af en toe gebruik, om my te hou. Dit is versprei oor 9 fabrikate.
    Niks verhoed my om nog af en toe n nuwe voertuig met lang waarborg, as daar een is wat my prikkel, by te koop nie. Maar ek het genoeg vir as daar niks te prikkel is nie.

    So ek hou so van kantlyn dop om indien nodig, nog een op die no-go lysie te sit.
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    Default Re: Ford LION V6 disappoints...again (not the crank this time)

    Quote Originally Posted by AfricainHD View Post
    I've noted how frustrated you are with your ordeal. One thing I will say, is we have different definitions of stranded.

    You got home and it wasn't the Amafords fault you didn't have signal.

    Enjoy your cruiser 😃
    Yes, we have.

    If my kids were with me, I might have been in for a rough time. To me, stranded is stranded. I don't care about the timeline.

    Can the cruiser do the same. Absolutely. But the probability of that happening is minuscule. In my mind, it is 0% vs. 100%, because it was a reality.
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    Default Re: Ford LION V6 disappoints...again (not the crank this time)

    Quote Originally Posted by GH View Post
    I really hope the Raptor engine is from a completely different DNA.
    I don't think you have anything to worry about.

    I haven't heard anything bad wrt the Ecoboost engine in your Raptor.

    I might just end up buying a Raptor when time come to replace my Amarok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clubbie View Post
    I don't think you have anything to worry about.

    I haven't heard anything bad wrt the Ecoboost engine in your Raptor.

    I might just end up buying a Raptor when time come to replace my Amarok.
    My nephew in Australia is on his second engine in his Raptor V6. There were a few failures related to valve springs. Maybe this is sorted he bought one of the very first V6 Raptors when the came available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak View Post
    You really should not find your identity in the brand of vehicle you drive.
    Such true words of wisdom, sadly maybe personally directed to the wrong player...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nys View Post
    Yes, we have.

    If my kids were with me, I might have been in for a rough time. To me, stranded is stranded. I don't care about the timeline.

    Can the cruiser do the same. Absolutely. But the probability of that happening is minuscule. In my mind, it is 0% vs. 100%, because it was a reality.
    Good luck Nys, glad you found "Peace of mind".
    May I say - you must be a person with a-lot of influence and or money - why else would anybody take back a well used vehicle with a minor glitch.

    Nevertheless, with all due respect, I was expecting something like this.

    Happy quiet dreams about the "nicest" vehicle you might have owned...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nys View Post
    Yes, we have.

    If my kids were with me, I might have been in for a rough time. To me, stranded is stranded. I don't care about the timeline.

    Can the cruiser do the same. Absolutely. But the probability of that happening is minuscule. In my mind, it is 0% vs. 100%, because it was a reality.
    Does a flat tyre count as stranded?
    Surely there is a 50% chance of that in any vehicle that will also put your kids at risk, unless you have runflats..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakazi View Post
    Does a flat tyre count as stranded?
    Surely there is a 50% chance of that in any vehicle that will also put your kids at risk, unless you have runflats..
    Thatís why vehicles have a spare wheel, sometimes more than one, to prevent you from ending up stranded.
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    Default Re: Ford LION V6 disappoints...again (not the crank this time)

    I've just read this thread for the 1st time - and am absolutely gob-smacked at how invested/hell bent people can be on sticking to/believing in their own opinion about the reason for others' choices and/or actions!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosvark Kzn View Post
    Thatís why vehicles have a spare wheel, sometimes more than one, to prevent you from ending up stranded.
    Yes, but it still intails pulling off to side of the road & getting out to change the spare.

    Point is that there will always be risk no matter how much money you have.
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    Yes, but I think having to pull over to change a wheel is a bit different to sitting on the side of the road with your sub 10k km R1m plus vehicle not sure if itís going to start again. Or like the guy from the Free State, sitting there waiting in 30k km bakkie to be recovered.

    Punctures are part of motoring, breaking down in a new vehicle shouldnít be part of motoring in this day and age. Not in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakazi View Post
    Point is that there will always be risk no matter how much money you have.
    Yes, there will always be risk, but a person can reduce that risk significantly.

    Why would I buy a brand thatís known to be unreliable (increasing the risk) if I can buy a brand thatís known to be mostly reliable? (Reducing risk)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakazi View Post
    Does a flat tyre count as stranded?
    Surely there is a 50% chance of that in any vehicle that will also put your kids at risk, unless you have runflats..
    Equating a flat to limp mode or engine failure (at that stage I dis not know. Engine light was on and car dead)

    Ok sir, you win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakazi View Post
    Does a flat tyre count as stranded?
    Surely there is a 50% chance of that in any vehicle that will also put your kids at risk, unless you have runflats..
    I'll try and answer this in tire terms since you are trying to compare apples with cricket balls here...

    In Nys's case... Imagine you get a flat tire for no apparent reason. No puncture or de-beading. When you try and inflate it, it just stays flat... Then all of a sudden it just fixes itself without any indication of what was wrong or what caused it. Back at 2.4 bar without any signs of a leak... Now you need to travel again not knowing if it will do the same again.

    But since you spent quite a lot on a premium brand of tires, you decide to take it back to the tire dealer. They tell you that they are actually not sure and they can see that something is wrong, but that tire people from a sister brand in South Africa will need to look at the tire fault codes, cause the tire dealership that sold you the tires and should look after it actually don't understand the fault codes or what is really causing this sudden deflation without warning. To add insult to injury they inform you that even if their best guess is correct, they don't have the required parts to fix it. They tell you to go back onto the road without any guarantee that that the tires will not do this again. Especially with some trips planned with a young family into remote areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosvark Kzn View Post
    Yes, there will always be risk, but a person can reduce that risk significantly.

    Why would I buy a brand thatís known to be unreliable (increasing the risk) if I can buy a brand thatís known to be mostly reliable? (Reducing risk)
    Exactly.

    But for some people denial is a river on the other end of Africa.

    Some brands are more prone to give you ####. If you know that and still use / support such a brand - good for you. You will not find me rubbing your nose in it. Its your hard-earned tom, your choice, your life. Knock yourself out. But to frown on other people who says "had enough, cheers", is epically stupid.
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    Default Ford LION V6 disappoints...again (not the crank this time)

    Just FYi,

    Just saw on Facebook another one with same problem. Also told to just drive it while we wait for parts
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    Default Re: Ford LION V6 disappoints...again (not the crank this time)

    I am.not gone defend the new amarok or bash it, i bought it as i have driven amaroks since 2011, i like the look and i wanted a V6 again with low range.

    I am hapoy so far and are on my way from windhoek to cape town, and will see how the bakkie perform. Yes all amarok owners would liked a VAG V6 in there, with low range and the ZF box, well me at lrast, so i will sell it if it give me #### and will keep it if not. Only time will tell and so far i dont have any mechanical issues, given early days. But ja not lekke to see these issues pop up.

    Each to his own opinoins and enjoy what makes u happy and in which u feel safe.


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    Dis omdat jul nie 2de handse pajeros ry nie

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    Default Re: Ford LION V6 disappoints...again (not the crank this time)

    Quote Originally Posted by EttiennedK View Post
    I've just read this thread for the 1st time - and am absolutely gob-smacked at how invested/hell bent people can be on sticking to/believing in their own opinion about the reason for others' choices and/or actions!!
    Correct. Everyone is entitled to his own wrong opinion.
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