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    Default Re: Complicated overlanding.

    You make it as complicated as you want.

    For me the bare minimum would be a 12v fridge to keep my food and drink cold, a good place to sleep and some way of cooking said food.

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    Default Re: Complicated overlanding.

    In the end I have opted for the multi camp setup.

    I have simple setup combination that means a swag and an awning, a vehicle only setup, with a rooftop tent, and a vehicle and comfort trailer combination with all the bells...

    So, depending on what the camping will entail and who goes with, I make a choice on what to pack.


    I have eventually come to the conclusion that there isn't only one way, and that any way can be lekker if it is as you want it to be.

    But... When you are the glamper in a convoy of minimalist... it then can be/get very frustrating to everyone including you.
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    Default Re: Complicated overlanding.

    Each to their own. Someone once said "any idiot can camp uncomfortably".

    We did it "middle of the road" - had a freezer for precooked meals and meat, and a fridge for the rest. A comfortable bed in the RTT (don't feel like spending 45 minutes in setting up a ground tent in the heat), comfortable chairs and a table. Our luxury items were a 2 plate gas burner and a side awning. Setting up camp did not take longer than 10 minutes. Showering was with a simple shower bag.

    When we migrated to a camper, we still kept to the same basics, with the addition of an indoor loo. Obviously the bigger interior was great in wet or cold weather.
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    Default Re: Complicated overlanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    Friday threads on Mondays is a red ticket..
    Likewise, thinking it's Monday on a Tuesday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morne - Skip View Post
    Likewise, thinking it's Monday on a Tuesday
    The thread was started yesterday.
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    "The first axiom (point of reasoning) for camp is not to do without comfort.
    Do not make yourself uncomfortable for want of things to which you're accustomed.
    That's the great secret of camp life"
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    Default Re: Complicated overlanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    We went full circle. From the bare necessities to a trailer full of gadgets back to only the essentials. One thing I do not compromise on is to sleep well. No point in being on holiday if I don't sleep well. All other things can be compromised on.
    SNAP !
    I am now back in a bow tent on the ground, etc.
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    Default Re: Complicated overlanding.

    There is nothing wrong with what you take or dont take.

    ''Overlanding'' has become more accessible (vehicles and things) to more people so the demographic has expanded, ask Peter1949 or Bush Nomad. Most of those guys had to make most of their own stuff, so it was a very narrow demographic that used to venture out.

    Who remembers the days when you couldnt get a tent with a built in groundsheet?

    Who would be seriously thinking otherwise about camping if you only had a canvas tent, wooden poles and no groundsheet and if you had to hand the missus a spade when she wanted the loo?

    I would hazard, even though it is not yet Friday (retirees excluded) that if the vehicles were limited and of questionable reliability and you couldnt get half the stuff that is currently available, the camp sites and wilderness areas would be less populated.

    But, having said that, personally, after spending one of the coldest nights on a camp with Ettienn1, posing as a predator burrito, strung between two trees, I am starting to eye up the benefits of a Land Rover with a double bed, kitchen unit and running water

    So, in summary, if it gets you and your family out of the house, away from signal, internet and Play Station, to sit around a fire and look up atthe stars, then go for it, and buy and use whatever it takes and is available to suit your needs. Because that is what it should be about.

    Now, what battery set-up do I need to power a fridge and an ice maker?

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    Default Re: Complicated overlanding.

    My axim when touring is "less is more". I have camp trailer for when we stand for a longer period of time or when the kids come with. I prefer not touring with it, although my last Namaqualand tour it came along - more to provide additional space for the hoards of people that accompanies us thatn anything else.

    If it is just Liana and I, it's just the RTT, awning etc. But we've perfected our setup over the last two years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iandvl View Post
    My axim when touring is "less is more". I have camp trailer for when we stand for a longer period of time or when the kids come with. I prefer not touring with it, although my last Namaqualand tour it came along - more to provide additional space for the hoards of people that accompanies us thatn anything else.

    If it is just Liana and I, it's just the RTT, awning etc. But we've perfected our setup over the last two years.
    Believe the same, but the secret is , to never make yourself uncomfortable.

    a good camper dont rough it, we did it as students many many moons ago, not now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koos Best View Post
    Believe the same, but the scret is , to never make yourself uncomfortable.

    a good camper dont rough it, we did it as students many many moons ago, not now!
    But... I never said I was uncomfortable... As I said, I've perfected my setup. We're super happy.
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    Default Re: Complicated overlanding.

    I am pulling the bloody kitchen sink, but only because our kids, aged 2.5 and 6, always go with. They have to be comfortable

    Is it complicated, yes. But anyway, with kids its 2 steps forward, and three back in any case. So we just relax and take it as it comes You just have to deal with it of you camp with us.

    But, we are not afraid to go way off the beaten track because we are fully self sufficient for at least 2 to 3 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iandvl View Post
    But... I never said I was uncomfortable... As I said, I've perfected my setup. We're super happy.
    What I meant is, sleep well and comfortable and drink cold cold beers, dan is alles hunky dorry
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    To expand on my setup a little.

    I drive a 4.5 GRX GU WAGON.

    My standard set up consists of

    * Roofrack.
    * Roofrack has worklight mounted at the back and has 2 hella plug sockets with switches on the left hand side for putting additional magentic lights under the awning.
    * Roof-top tent.
    * Awning mounted on left-hand-side of canopy.
    * Ttwo spare wheel carriers.
    * Drawer system in boot.
    * 90L fridge on tilt-slide.
    * Custom aux battery setup.
    * Solar panel slides in under rack.
    * Hilift jack on roofrack.

    Drawers:

    * Left hand side = technical. Tools, spares etc.
    * Right hand side = "kitchen stuff". ie: Dry goods, cutlery crockery gas stove, kettle, etc.

    I have a frame over the fridge so I can pack stuff on top of it as well as open the fridge nicely when fully packed. DC/DC charger and MPPT are mounted on right hand side of it with colour-coded brad harrison plugs for connecting things.
    Both drawers have covers which allow one to use the top of the drawer system as a table (ie: when making coffee next to the road). These panels also interlock to form a windshield for the gas stove should it be windy.

    Overlanding set up:

    1: We will normally be 2 up, although we have been 4 up before.
    2: Depending on where we going, there may be 1 40L water tank (FR), 40L jerry cans (fuel) and possibly even another 40L jerry cans (water).
    3: Fold-out table next to fridge on the right. Roll-up table on top of the battery pack right.
    4: FR expander chairs next to fridge left.
    5: RTT ladder extension left of fridge.
    6: Cobb left of fridge.
    7: Fire extinguisher and first aird kit left of fridge.,
    8: Towels and bedding on top of fridge compartment.
    9: Other bags on second row seat.
    10: Wood etc on floor at second row seats.
    11: Recover equipment underneath front seats.
    12: Ground sheet(s) in spare wheels on back.
    13: Braai grid behind spare wheels.
    14: Braai stuff (firelighters, wire brush and tongs) RH spare wheel bag.
    15: Rubbish bag LH spare wheel bag.

    In cases where we have really toured wild or long, I often fold the second row seats down. I have a plywood plank and metal frame which provides more space underneath for wood etc, as well as a convenient place to chuck a dirty laundry bag. And then the 12V shower goes in the technical drawer and the tent extension / annex also gets chuck on the back rear seats.

    Non touring setup is more or less the same, but we do not use the RTT and the baggage, extra tent (for the girls) and stretchers are in the camper trailer.

    I've probably forgotten stuff. But more-or-less how it works.

    Anyways, as pointed out, it works for us. I can go from stopping the truck to having the camp set up and quaffing a beer in about 5 minutes... And we live lekker.

    Edit: Why I drag the Cobb along. One get's a little gatvol of normal braaivleis on a long trip. The Cobb means we've done pizza, roasts etc. One of our highlights on the last Nam trip we did was a pork belly roast on the cobb at Sesriem. The various Cobb components also alleviate the need for taking a gazillion pots / pans etc.
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    Default Re: Complicated overlanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by iandvl View Post
    I drive a 4.5 GRX Wagon
    Is that a SUV?
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    Default Re: Complicated overlanding.

    I have not commented so far as I think over landing and camping can be separated. I did a Mabua/Kgalgadi trip in Jan, 4000 off kms. That I suppose would be overlanding. I also just camped at Kruger. First trip was fully loaded as were were in the wild for a good amount of time being totally sustainable, so one fridge and one freezer was totally needed as well as all the water we needed to take. Going with Dinky in tow just made life a whole lot easier.

    The Kruger trip was a ground tent, tri fold mattress (agreed, you have to sleep well) and a Romer cool box. Minimal cooking gear and two chairs. We also did the trip in the Volvo and not the Pajero. A point in fact is that we had three Leopard sightings and the best Lion sightings from the tar.

    Both trips were equally as good. Swambo often says though, it is not where you are or what you have, it is who you are with.

    Glad she came with me, I hate talking to myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iandvl View Post
    To expand on my setup a little.

    --- snip ---
    Thanks. Nice post. Where do you carry your jerry cans when you use them?
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    Is that a SUV?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigWatt View Post
    Thanks. Nice post. Where do you carry your jerry cans when you use them?
    On the roof rack.
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    Default Re: Complicated overlanding.

    Back in the early nineties, a friend of mine's parents and their friends were, you could say, pioneers of Botswana overlanding.

    They had a Mazda Drifter bakkie, a Coleman, a map and a compass.
    The map was not the greatest.
    They got lost a few times
    The Trans Kalahari highway was a dirt road.
    and from day 3 onwards they lived on canned food

    But they made good memories....

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