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    Default Help required - T4A Basecamp

    After residing in Botswana for more than a decade and relocating elsewhere, we are currently preparing for a two-week journey back to Botswana. Despite hearing numerous praises for Track4Africa, I find myself struggling to efficiently plan our itinerary.
    My objective is to chart our route from start to finish, incorporating day-to-day scheduling for overnight stays, calculating distances between destinations, and estimating travel durations. Subsequently, I intend to upload this itinerary onto my Garmin GPS device to facilitate navigation during our trip.
    I've explored the functionalities of the Online T4A maps, paid and installed the Botswana map onto my Mac using Garmin Basecamp, and attempted to navigate through the planning process. Despite these efforts, I've encountered limited success thus far.
    I require assistance in using Basecamp to plan our trip, and eventually transfer the plan onto my GPS.
    Any guidance or recommendations on resources including link to docs or videos on using Basecamp would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your assistance.

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    Default Re: Help required - T4A Basecamp

    Maybe you'll find something here to help you.

    https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...light=basecamp

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    Default Re: Help required - T4A Basecamp

    I also struggle with Basecamp.

    I do the majority of my planning in Mapsource and then import the .gdb file into Basecamp.

    In Basecamp I can then convert the routes to tracks as I prefer navigating on tracks instead of routes.

    Not sure if you can lay your hands on Mapsource software - might be unobtanium, but one never knows in this day and age.

    I still had the software on an old Map CD which I have since misplaced.

    Anyhow good luck.

    I was going to offer some assistance, but I have never worked on a Mac, so I doubt I'll be of use.

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    Default Re: Help required - T4A Basecamp

    Something that may help you: I use plenty of waypoints, but I rename each one to insert day and serial number. Eg T4A's Discovery B&B (Maun, recommended) becomes 0915 Discovery B&B (9th day, 15th waypoint). Have many inserted waypoints; such as 0906 T-Junction turn left. Using this system, Basecamp puts them all into order. For the serial numbers, use 99 as last point of day, but in the early stages of planning, use 05, 10, 15, 20, etc. so that it is easy to fine tune by inserting more waypoints as your planning progresses.

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    Default Re: Help required - T4A Basecamp

    I second what Jonotan has suggested; I just use a different numbering system eg A0001, A0002 etc

    You may find this helpful as well : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLD34QW0NWQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonatan View Post
    Something that may help you: I use plenty of waypoints, but I rename each one to insert day and serial number. Eg T4A's Discovery B&B (Maun, recommended) becomes 0915 Discovery B&B (9th day, 15th waypoint). Have many inserted waypoints; such as 0906 T-Junction turn left. Using this system, Basecamp puts them all into order. For the serial numbers, use 99 as last point of day, but in the early stages of planning, use 05, 10, 15, 20, etc. so that it is easy to fine tune by inserting more waypoints as your planning progresses.
    This is also the way I do it. I start by creating a New List in My Collection (on Mac: File, New List) and name it e.g. Botswana Trip. Then I add the waypoints to this list. If the waypoints are already in My Collection you can just drag them into the new list. Now rename the waypoints by numbering them in the correct order. i.e Day one, point one will be "0101 Home", day two will be "0201 Overnight" , "0202 Fuel Stop", "0203 Breakfast", etc. Once this is done the waypoints are now listed in order. Now select all the waypoints in the list (Ctrl A), right click and Create Route from Waypoints. Tip: Ctrl D centres your map on whatever data is selected on your list.

    When copying the information to my device, I don't bother with copying routes, I copy only the waypoints and on the day I navigate from one waypoint to the next. I find trying to stay on a pre-created route takes the fun out of making a quick deviation to go take a look at something interesting along the way.
    Frank Visagie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OffTheHamsterWheel View Post
    This is also the way I do it. I start by creating a New List in My Collection (on Mac: File, New List) and name it e.g. Botswana Trip. Then I add the waypoints to this list. If the waypoints are already in My Collection you can just drag them into the new list. Now rename the waypoints by numbering them in the correct order. i.e Day one, point one will be "0101 Home", day two will be "0201 Overnight" , "0202 Fuel Stop", "0203 Breakfast", etc. Once this is done the waypoints are now listed in order. Now select all the waypoints in the list (Ctrl A), right click and Create Route from Waypoints. Tip: Ctrl D centres your map on whatever data is selected on your list.

    When copying the information to my device, I don't bother with copying routes, I copy only the waypoints and on the day I navigate from one waypoint to the next. I find trying to stay on a pre-created route takes the fun out of making a quick deviation to go take a look at something interesting along the way.

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    Default Re: Help required - T4A Basecamp

    Plan your trip routes day by day in Google earth. Convert to GPX files and import into Basecamp.
    Save the files on your computer and just import the tracks to your GPS as needed.

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    Default Re: Help required - T4A Basecamp

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozz View Post
    My objective is to chart our route from start to finish, incorporating day-to-day scheduling for overnight stays, calculating distances between destinations, and estimating travel durations.
    For the above, I have found using T4A Trip Planning to be useful. It is a Beta version and can be slow and sometimes after entering a name it initially shows what you want then can change to show places that are not linked to your search term.

    I confess I struggled with Base camp but this thread is prompting me to try again.

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    Default Re: Help required - T4A Basecamp

    If there are a couple of people, I can always set up another Teams "workshop" to do a refresher on BaseCamp routing. If there is a need, I I'll start another thread.
    Live life to the fullest....no matter what!

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    Default Re: Help required - T4A Basecamp

    I an keen on another Basecamp lesson. Must say.

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    Default Re: Help required - T4A Basecamp

    Would also be interested, Basecamp is way above my skill level.

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    Default Re: Help required - T4A Basecamp

    Daniek is the Basecamp guru and can guide you in that regard.

    For me Basecamp is very unintuitive and a very user unfriendly program.
    Why sukkel ?

    For me the magic combination is:

    1) Mapsource Ver 6.16.3
    2) WinGDB3 Ver 3.50
    3) Google Earth Ver 7.1.8.3036 (32-bit)

    Mapsource:

    For the viewing of maps, waypoints, route planning and tracks and transferring map, track, waypoint and track data to and from my GPS, etc.
    And for me a huge plus, with a click of the "View in Google Earth" button, I can view my current Mapsource map in Google Earth in the finest detail.
    This is an invaluable tool when planning trips in remote areas and adds a whole new exciting dimension to trip planning.
    You can't do this in Basecamp.

    WinGDB3:

    For converting routes to tracks, tracks to routes, etc.
    An easy to use tool that works flawlessly.

    Google Earth:

    This version allows me to view my current Mapsource map in Google Earth.
    I believe newer versions of GE, may have tried to blocked this feature, as has windows 10 and 11.
    I have the very simple fix for this.

    Note: All of the above runs on any 32-bit or 64-bit machine with Win 7,8,10,11.

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    Default Re: Help required - T4A Basecamp

    I have started another thread where you can "book" your interest in a BaseCamp route planning refresher session.
    https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...65#post5204065

    I must agree that it was very nice to be able to launch Google Earth from Mapsource. But ja, we don't like or necessarily understand all changes around us. Fortunately there are workarounds, like being able to open your GPX file in Google Earth.

    Cheers.
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