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    Default Re: how do you plug this hole in the koakaland

    so i have done some thinking ,
    if only you can get muchroom plugs that thick to fit that hole and plug the hole further ,
    or making the mud flaps in front longer to keep the stone,s away
    both tyers where left back , the other tyers all good ,so
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    Default Re: how do you plug this hole in the koakaland

    Quote Originally Posted by Alberto View Post
    this happened in the koakoland area onroute to twyfelfontein ,,the tyre had a nail in it ,the colt was laden but in limits and tyre,s pressure was on 250bar could feel the bakkie was pulling to the left but to late ,,road was in bad shape ,changed it ,10min later i heard a sound of this stone hitting under the bakkie ,now no spare wheel ,tried to plug it ,and then people on the way to korikas help me with there spare ,but it nearly turned in disaster ,the tyre shop had only normal tyre ,and got me sorted out in outjo,,great service there just behind the spar at the mobil garage 2 days later ,not complaing ,we had lot of fun in that area,so how do you plug that big hole in the middle of nowhere ,just had the normal plugs .

    your tires were pumped two hard, pressure should have been 160 or even lower

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    Default Re: how do you plug this hole in the koakaland

    Carry a spare tube or two, a gator and 2 or 3 different size mushroom plugs.

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    Default Re: how do you plug this hole in the koakaland

    On trips like that I carry one or two tyre inner tubes plus some mushroom plugs in case of big damage to a tyre.
    Its no big deal to unbead, unscrew/remove the ssteel valve, insert mushroom plug, fit inner tube, pump and go.
    It just takes a big of patience/time.

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    Default Re: how do you plug this hole in the koakaland

    Quote Originally Posted by HendrikSmith View Post
    Carry a spare tube or two, a gator and 2 or 3 different size mushroom plugs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Damdan View Post
    On trips like that I carry one or two tyre inner tubes plus some mushroom plugs in case of big damage to a tyre.
    Its no big deal to unbead, unscrew/remove the ssteel valve, insert mushroom plug, fit inner tube, pump and go.
    It just takes a big of patience/time.
    Have any of you checked that the inner tube valve stem position/setting matches, the hole in the rim ?

    I tried to get an inner tube for my aluminium rims and ran into myriad of supplier inner tube stock codes and "we will have to see if it fits" scenarios, so I just gave up on that idea and did not pursue it further.

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    Default Re: how do you plug this hole in the koakaland

    This is super easy ...

    https://youtu.be/JR0lJ6HRiuU?t=48

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    Default Re: how do you plug this hole in the koakaland

    Quote Originally Posted by the_terrible_triplett View Post
    This is super easy ...

    https://youtu.be/JR0lJ6HRiuU?t=48

    Nou weet ek ook.
    ek ook, wou vir my 'n bead breaker bou maar die gaan makliker wees
    my plan nou is ,
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    het snotplugs
    het patches en gom
    ,gaan nou tyre levers inpak
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    2x planke
    tubeless inners x2 en soos genoem die valves ook check dankie vir daai
    besig om nuwe 4x4 tyres te soek ,moet LT wees om gewig te dra ,kyk sterk na bf goodrich
    wat mis ek nog ,
    onthou een ding ek het ander mense op die pad al gehelp ,die slag het mense my gehelp ,so dit gaan nie net vir myself wees nie ,maar ook om ander te help ,EK KEN DAAI GEVOEL VAN HULPELOOSHEID of is dit verleentheid.
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    Default Re: how do you plug this hole in the koakaland

    Quote Originally Posted by HendrikSmith View Post
    Carry a spare tube or two, a gator and 2 or 3 different size mushroom plugs.
    Okay...I'll admit that I thought a gator was a spare tube one carried to use in a tubeless tire. But your post says differently. When I do an internet search I don't come up with anything.

    So...what is a tire gator?
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    Default Re: how do you plug this hole in the koakaland

    A gator is a big strong patch for use on the inside of a tubeless tyre, like the patch that goes onto a tube, but thicker and stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalDriver View Post
    Okay...I'll admit that I thought a gator was a spare tube one carried to use in a tubeless tire. But your post says differently. When I do an internet search I don't come up with anything.

    So...what is a tire gator?
    A tyre gaitor/gaiter is basically just a big thick patch for tubless tyres.
    They get glued on the inside over the hole.

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    Default Re: how do you plug this hole in the koakaland

    I’ll be ‘that’ guy; the correct spelling is ‘gaiter’!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damdan View Post
    On trips like that I carry one or two tyre inner tubes plus some mushroom plugs in case of big damage to a tyre.
    Its no big deal to unbead, unscrew/remove the ssteel valve, insert mushroom plug, fit inner tube, pump and go.
    It just takes a big of patience/time.

    Inner tubes SHOULD NEVER be fitted to a tubeless tyre and rim. IT IS DANGEROUS, you are setting up perfect conditions for tyre failure.


    Tubes are not compatible with tubeless rims.


    On tubeless rims, the valve hole is smaller than on tube type rims. This is partially to tell you that you cannot fit a tube to that rim.


    So why not?

    If you fit a tube to a tubeless rim, because the tube's valve stem is thicker, which in turn actually forms an airtight seal. The valve is also not seated properly on the inside of the rim. Those two conditions is a recipe for disaster.

    You now inflate the tube and as the tube forces the tyre beads onto the rim and air is trapped between the tyre and the tube with no way to escape. This then causes movement and friction between the tube and the tyre, that friction causes heat. At a certain point, the tube will self destruct from overheating or even explode due to the tyre chafing a hole in the tube. This will cause the tyre to deflate rapidly.

    The driver of the vehicle is not expecting this to happen as his mind is at ease, because he has fitted a tube to that tyre.

    All the above failure is dependent on speed, tyre pressure and distance travelled, it can happen on day one, or on day twenty, when the fact that there is a tube in the tubeless rim is only a scant memory and totally unexpected. It may even be at a time SWAMBO is taking the kids to school in the vehicle on the first day back home, before you have had a chance to fix the tyre properly.

    The friction between tyre and tube can also cause enough unseen damage to the tyre, enough to render they tyre internal structure unsafe (although it looks perfect) for any future use.

    It is just no worth it.... its rather gaiters/plugs or nothing!!!
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    Malcolm what you are saying is quite correct.
    But this type of fix is temporary.
    In offroad conditions.
    Far from home to get you to a facility who can help you with a permanent fix.
    As safe as 27 snotplugs plugging a hole.
    It is not to drive around day after day or take kids to school.
    Ive done it, it works.
    If I abide by your "or nothing" my skeleton would still be sitting next to a tweespoor in the remotest part of Namibia.
    Btw Ive also "fixed" a broken leaf spring with rope and a few pieces of thin cable.
    Of course its dangerous driving like that but it got me to a main road and cellphone reception.
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    Default Re: how do you plug this hole in the koakaland

    "At a certain point, the tube will self destruct from overheating or even explode due to the tyre chafing a hole in the tube. This will cause the tyre to deflate rapidly."


    Yes it happened to me years ago on my first trip to Botswana not too long after it was fitted. Valuable lesson learnt luckily I was not travelling too fast.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffth View Post
    Yes it happened to me years ago on my first trip to Botswana not too long after it was fitted. Valuable lesson learnt luckily I was not travelling too fast.

    Geoffth

    It happened to me less that 30km (about 20 minutes I refitted the wheel) on the trailer, (lightly loaded) doing about 80kph on good dirt, and the trailer nearly caused an accident, the way it was swaying for a few seconds... And the tyre was a throwaway after the incident. I was still about 30km from a tyre repair place.....
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    MVCOLLER,this is the first explanation to not put a tube in a tubeless , never even on youtube, thanks for that ,nothing beats expearence.
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