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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    Quote Originally Posted by The TRANSPORTER View Post
    @Reenen sal baie graag wil weet wats die rede Reenen? Is 2stroke maar nie net nog 2stroke nie? Op n tyd het die ou duitser hier op die forum weer gese dit MOET Sasol sn wees aangesien dit nie glo swael of as veroorsaak nie ..

    Groete.

    I think even betwen Sasol and Caltex etc there is different brands of 2SO and one should be super careful of what you buy.

    The 2SO for my Lawnmover at Game is R50 for 500ml
    and the 2SO for my KTM bike is R1600 for 3l....

    just saying....general 2SO comments need a lot of background clarifying as there is a wide range of quality between these two extremes

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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    Look at the Material Data Sheet for any additive you add to your fuel.
    Most of them are mostly cetane boosters and volatile products similar to acetone or benzine.

    I don't use them.
    On my Gen1 Di-D I had a very sensitive aircraft quality EGT gauge and it showed significant increases in EGT when using these brand name additives - that's when I stopped using it.
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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    Quote Originally Posted by m0lt3n View Post
    I think even betwen Sasol and Caltex etc there is different brands of 2SO and one should be super careful of what you buy.

    The 2SO for my Lawnmover at Game is R50 for 500ml
    and the 2SO for my KTM bike is R1600 for 3l....

    just saying....general 2SO comments need a lot of background clarifying as there is a wide range of quality between these two extremes
    During the long 2SO debate, it became clear that the JASO FC rating is the best. It is a "low-ash" oil. This means it doesn't leave carbon deposits, and actually removes carbon build-up from the combustion chamber components. There was also anecdotal evidence presented that claimed carbon build-up was also removed from turbos.
    The famous "SASOL" report showed that the 2SO doesn't really help with lubrication when used in uncontaminated diesel. One has to believe that it will help lubricate if diesel is cut with paraffin.
    2SO is also loaded with Zn, which is a base metal and definitely not good for the environment.

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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    I also dabbled with the S02 additives when I had the Disco's.
    I cant even remember the quantities, but it is small amounts added to the tank.
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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    Quote Originally Posted by maverick View Post
    I also dabbled with the S02 additives when I had the Disco's.
    I cant even remember the quantities, but it is small amounts added to the tank.
    1:200 ratio

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    So I added the bakkie cleaner to the last full tank:

    https://www.shop.liqui-moly.co.za/pr...ystem-cleaner/

    After 100km all I can say is that something in the Fortuner has awakened. Previously the car was sluggish to respond unless I used Power mode (and I did so frequently). Now it is much more responsive without need for the P button. Hell I got massive wheel spin in second gear.

    My economy has suffered because now that the car wants to go I want to go

    As per previous posts I've had success in keeping my engines clean using Liqui Moly and Techron (verified by indi when he did head gasket on Jeep).

    I will keep on using the super diesel additive every 3 or so months and the bakkie cleaner once a year. For the first time since owning the car I am actually looking forward to driving it
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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    I used injector cleaner probably 5 times in consecutive tanks and did not see or feel any difference. I would suggest that you change your fuel filter before putting it in your tank. If you had dirty injectors, it may help but only with carbon. Any sand/rust based dirt will not be affected. So I think it is probably worth a try if you have a problem before you cough for the pros to fix it.

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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisH View Post
    How do you determine that it works for you? What do you measure or what results do you expect?
    Am interested to also add stuff but dont know how to determine if it works...
    Likely not the most scientific way of testing but this is my injector balance before and after Liqui Moly fuel system cleaner. 1000 is the target value. Seems to have made a difference.

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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    Andre Benson told me that one of the best things you can do for your diesel engine is to blank off the EGR. Like you are breathing through your ****hole.

    De Graaf exhaust gets rid of the gas faster, a great mod, turbo runs cooler, no back pressure.
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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    Quote Originally Posted by pwgg View Post
    Andre Benson told me that one of the best things you can do for your diesel engine is to blank off the EGR. Like you are breathing through your ****hole.

    De Graaf exhaust gets rid of the gas faster, a great mod, turbo runs cooler, no back pressure.
    Absolutely correct.
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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    Not necessarily, according to this fella:

    EGR Delete - The Whole Story (youtube.com)

    But mine is blanked off. Although my engine is of the technology/era that according him does benefit from blocking off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Connan View Post
    Not necessarily, according to this fella:

    EGR Delete - The Whole Story (youtube.com)

    But mine is blanked off. Although my engine is of the technology/era that according him does benefit from blocking off.
    This is some good knowledge, thanks (assuming he is right, which I will)
    I was thinking about going this route soon, but seems like it is a waste in a modern diesel.
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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    Quote Originally Posted by PsyPhin View Post
    This is some good knowledge, thanks (assuming he is right, which I will)
    I was thinking about going this route soon, but seems like it is a waste in a modern diesel.
    He did though very briefly, mention the possibility of coolant loss (due to corrosion of the coolant feed?). Such as the case with Amaroks.
    Suppose that depends on your vehicle



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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisH View Post
    How do you determine that it works for you? What do you measure or what results do you expect?
    Am interested to also add stuff but dont know how to determine if it works...
    Chris, LiquiMoly verkoop 'n "Bakkie Something" - ook injector cleaner.
    Ek moet se, voel nogal 'n verskil, asof die Hilux'e "crisper" is.
    Sal probeer kyk of ek die naam kry, maar dis Bakkie Something, by Goldwagen

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatjohan View Post
    He did though very briefly, mention the possibility of coolant loss (due to corrosion of the coolant feed?). Such as the case with Amaroks.
    Suppose that depends on your vehicle
    I am reading up now and there are definitely downsides, but seems negligible on new age diesel engines. Would rather keep any warranty questions at bay for now.
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    Default Re: Liqui Moly Diesel Purge - Diesel Injection Cleaner

    Quote Originally Posted by Petri Oosthuizen View Post
    Chris, LiquiMoly verkoop 'n "Bakkie Something" - ook injector cleaner.
    Ek moet se, voel nogal 'n verskil, asof die Hilux'e "crisper" is.
    Sal probeer kyk of ek die naam kry, maar dis Bakkie Something, by Goldwagen
    I bought at Cashbuild, can buy at Builders too.

    Fortuner definitely benefitted form it. My comment are earlier in thread.

    As for EGR delete I understand the thinking behind it but from what I gather (especially on Toyota) the EGR works to reduce EGT. So overall it has benefits. I will opt for a removal and intake clean at some stage.
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