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    Default Compact Mirrorless Camera

    I am an everyday photographer
    Looking for a compact mirrorless camera for the bush.
    Don't want bulky lenses.

    I don't really do video

    I was in the bush recently with a friend of mine who has a Sony EZ-E10 with a Sony E 70-350mm lens
    I was most impressed

    But before I rush out and buy one, what else should I consider?
    Don't want to spend more than R50k

    Thanks in advance
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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    Consider the Sony A6700 (second hand you can even look at the A6400 or A6600).
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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    I know zip about cameras, mik and druk for me.

    However, my leggy blonde has a Nikon Z6 mirrorless, and she loves it(think if it had man bits, I'd be in trouble)

    Goes with to KNP with one longish lens and the pics she gets is amazing.

    Used to have bags of cameras and lenses and all kinds of stuff. Now its one camera and one lens.
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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    TimTDP have you had other SLR cameras before? Just thinking of you are used to a particular system.

    As Bogaards said, the Sony A6700/6600 are very goods cameras (from my research only).

    I went the Fuji route, bought the X-S10 and am very satisfied with it. The newer version X-S20 is now out. At the time I was between the Fuji and Sony but don't think you can go wrong with either.

    If your mate has a Sony it might be the way to sway as you can exchange information regarding systems and/or maybe lenses down the line.

    Have fun looking.
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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    Have a look at this thread as well:
    https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...p-good-quality
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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    I have a Canon SX70HS - not a pro camera by any means, but not having to swap out lenses constantly and being able to zoom in where everyone else fears to tread has been awesome. The depth of colour is maybe not what you would get out of some bigger cameras but it's definitely compact and all in one ease of use.

    I'll probably upgrade to a Canon 5D Mark IV or similar that takes the better half's lens collection, but for now I'm very happy with what I have. Some example pics attached.
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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    I run a "stock footage" business, doing photography and film/video for various companies who pay for the "product" I give them. My go to is the Canon EOS R range of cameras, currently EOS R5c ....... However, go look at the Sony A6400 ..... little compares in the Rand for function/quality stakes... and it does not cost an arm or a leg ...... The later model A6700 is a step up but in reality, the A6400 does everything I need .... although the APC sensor has a few limiting factors, I tend to work around them.

    Ultimately its how well you know the camera.

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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    I have purchased a Canon R10 camera.
    Get it tomorrow!

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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    … I managed to scrape back some
    of my cash from those thieving rats
    down at the Collectors Office
    … so I went shopping today.

    My last real camera was a Pentax K1000
    DSLR with Tukamar Lenses …
    bought in 1977.

    Now looking at my new 400 page
    Fuji Manual I see things have moved on
    quite bit since my Pentax days …
    … to put it mildly …

    My iphone 6 camera is also a bit tired !
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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    Quote Originally Posted by TimTDP View Post
    I have purchased a Canon R10 camera.
    Get it tomorrow!
    Care to give first-hand feedback on the R10?

    I am seriously in the market and have settled on the R10... waiting for Black November specials before I pull the trigger, so I still have time to reconsider
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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    I am happy with the R10. Easy to use.
    However, I am pissed off! Everywhere I read indicated that the R10 could be recharged via USB. The fine print is that you need a special Canon USB adapter to charge via USB. Which needs 220vac. So you might as well use the battery charger that comes with the phone.
    Why the fuck it can't be recharged via USB, like a mobile phone, is beyond me.
    In the bush, 220vac is limited.
    Epic fail Canon.
    If I had known this, I would not have purchased the camera
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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    Quote Originally Posted by TimTDP View Post
    ...
    Why the fuck it can't be recharged via USB, like a mobile phone, is beyond me.
    ...
    Have you tried it?
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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    Of course I have
    In the end I had to get a 3rd party USB battery charger

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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    I knew there was a solution, I'm sure there is a 12V USB-C PD (Power Delivery) compatible charger out there, but my goto battery guys in Joburg also have a USB charger for two LP-E17 batteries, only problem is it comes with two batteries, so pricey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushNomad View Post
    … I managed to scrape back some
    of my cash from those thieving rats
    down at the Collectors Office
    … so I went shopping today.

    My last real camera was a Pentax K1000
    DSLR with Tukamar Lenses …
    bought in 1977.

    Now looking at my new 400 page
    Fuji Manual I see things have moved on
    quite bit since my Pentax days …
    … to put it mildly …

    My iphone 6 camera is also a bit tired !
    Enjoy it, excellent choice, my camera's younger & smarter brother!

    I am still getting used to the Fuji menu, so study that manual well. I have watched quite a few youtube videos as well to get the hang of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcR View Post
    I knew there was a solution, I'm sure there is a 12V USB-C PD (Power Delivery) compatible charger out there, but my goto battery guys in Joburg also have a USB charger for two LP-E17 batteries, only problem is it comes with two batteries, so pricey.
    I have bought a double usb charger for my Fuji camera batteries from someone in Cape Town, can get you the details if you want? Was R200-R300.

    To the OP - apart from your frustration, the issue with most, especially more compact mirrorless cameras, is (because of that) their batteries are small, so you might as well also invest into a separate usb charger and a couple of batteries. I did and it took all the frustration of this "mirrorless shortcoming" away. With the third-party double usb charger and 2 batteries I am sure it was under R1000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walkabout View Post
    I have bought a double usb charger for my Fuji camera batteries from someone in Cape Town, can get you the details if you want? Was R200-R300.

    To the OP - apart from your frustration, the issue with most, especially more compact mirrorless cameras, is (because of that) their batteries are small, so you might as well also invest into a separate usb charger and a couple of batteries. I did and it took all the frustration of this "mirrorless shortcoming" away. With the third-party double usb charger and 2 batteries I am sure it was under R1000.

    My issue is not about getting a separate usb charger
    My issues are:
    1. Reviews I read said the camera is usb rechargable. So I assumed I simply connect it to a powerbank with a usb cable. Sadly this is not the case!
    2. Why haven't Cannon done this?

    Anyway, I have purchased a separate usb charger and a couple of batteries

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkabout View Post
    I have bought a double usb charger for my Fuji camera batteries from someone in Cape Town, can get you the details if you want? Was R200-R300.

    To the OP - apart from your frustration, the issue with most, especially more compact mirrorless cameras, is (because of that) their batteries are small, so you might as well also invest into a separate usb charger and a couple of batteries. I did and it took all the frustration of this "mirrorless shortcoming" away. With the third-party double usb charger and 2 batteries I am sure it was under R1000.
    Bigger Nikons have the same "problem" in that it is difficult (and expensive) to find a 12V or USB charger that effectively charges their batteries. Google tells me they are available (outside of SA from what I gleaned) but quite a few comments about how good (or not good) some of the options are. At this stage about the only reason to have an inverter or "power station" (my current option) when travelling in areas with no electricity.

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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    Quote Originally Posted by mudgrubber View Post
    Bigger Nikons have the same "problem" in that it is difficult (and expensive) to find a 12V or USB charger that effectively charges their batteries.
    On my "bigger Nikons" I certainly don't have a problem charging USB either from a laptop or via battery pack, just make sure you have selected USB charge option in your setup and are using the correct USB cable.

    Maybe the Canon has the same setting that must be selected in the setup menu??
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    Default Re: Compact Mirrorless Camera

    Quote Originally Posted by mudgrubber View Post
    Bigger Nikons have the same "problem" in that it is difficult (and expensive) to find a 12V or USB charger that effectively charges their batteries. Google tells me they are available (outside of SA from what I gleaned) but quite a few comments about how good (or not good) some of the options are. At this stage about the only reason to have an inverter or "power station" (my current option) when travelling in areas with no electricity.
    Mudgrubber I have a 12V socket charger for my Nikon batteries, admittedly bought in the US, which works well, was quite cheap. Make is "Watson". Can also be charged off the wall socket. I do have couple of batteries and swop them out while driving, seems to work well.
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