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    Default Re: Ford's new 3L V6 Diesel "Lion" Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by QuQ View Post
    Thanks Grant, this is exactly the info I was looking for.
    So your new 3.0 Ranger can be considered ordered?
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    Default Re: Ford's new 3L V6 Diesel "Lion" Engine

    Now you can service the Ford at VW and VW at Ford. More service centers. As long as VW keeps the price the same as Ford it will sell.

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    Default Re: Ford's new 3L V6 Diesel "Lion" Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by AVM View Post
    So your new 3.0 Ranger can be considered ordered?
    Waiting for price announcements! Saw a pic on FB of the new Ranger and Everest at Nampou ... announcement must be soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantI View Post
    Don't you mean that no right thinking individual will want to pay an extra R50 - R100k for some Tupperware and a VW badge?

    Mercedes priced their bakkie out of the market, because everyone knew it was a rebadged Nissan and not enough people were prepared to pay the badge premium.

    VW Amarok V6 is an AWD in any case, not a 4WD so they would not have the right drivetrain already developed for the engine.

    If VW price their Amarok right then they will sell. If they pull a Mercedes, then the Amarok will be dead in the water pretty soon.

    That's just my 2 cents.

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    VW has some excellent 4wd drive trains on hand, so the AWD was a choice not a necessity, it reflects the needs of the customer (majority) and optimises towards that. I guess the same argument can be applied to the shared platform in general, so we will see if VW gambles correctly or not on that. I for one won't be buying a rebadged ranger, but I may very well in future buy a current gen Amarok (especially the V6) if I can find one at the right price. I have said it before and will say it again, my predication is that the very last V6 "original" amarok will fetch a high premium in years to come.

    For now we don't know what the pricing structure and specs will look like (as far as I know), so it is difficult to comment, but I think VW will loose a bunch of die hard fans with this move, I also think a bunch of people won't care and will still buy the amarok, but it will sell worse than the current gen.

    On a side note, I see a lot of ford fans taking this criticism from VW fans quite personally, which I think is unnecessary. Ford make nice vehicles, it is just a pity their dealers are so horrendously bad, and I say this having owned 2 Fords personally with about 8 in total in my immediate family...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander View Post
    Ford make nice vehicles, it is just a pity their dealers are so horrendously bad, and I say this having owned 2 Fords personally with about 8 in total in my immediate family...
    And that is, where some might want to rather buy the same product from their VW dealer, whom they know, whom they and their family, have a decades long business relationship with and get good service, possibly discount, etc. rather than getting involved with a (Ford) dealer, whom they don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HugoNotte View Post
    And that is, where some might want to rather buy the same product from their VW dealer, whom they know, whom they and their family, have a decades long business relationship with and get good service, possibly discount, etc. rather than getting involved with a (Ford) dealer, whom they don't know.
    Thats a fair point, it would be interesting to get input from the VW indies that have to work on these rebadged fords when the time comes. Having worked quite a bit on VW/Audi products myself (amateur but I like to DIY where I can), they do seem to do things in a specific way, which may not carry through with the ford underpinnings that come with the platform.


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    Just the thought of that motor going kaboom will send a lot of tears to your eyes...if the 3.0 petrol turbo version will be available that will be my choice...

    And expect the VW even if its a Ford clone to be more expensive than the Ford...VW love giving you a base price BUT then add the extras on the list making it more.
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    What if, the vw comes with the petrol engine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    What if, the vw comes with the petrol engine?
    It would be very expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The TRANSPORTER View Post
    Just the thought of that motor going kaboom will send a lot of tears to your eyes...if the 3.0 petrol turbo version will be available that will be my choice...

    And expect the VW even if its a Ford clone to be more expensive than the Ford...VW love giving you a base price BUT then add the extras on the list making it more.
    How sure are you that the petrol engine won't go kaboom?
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    Petrol engine is Raptor only and VW will not be getting a Raptor equivalent.



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    Default Re: Ford's new 3L V6 Diesel "Lion" Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by GrantI View Post
    Petrol engine is Raptor only and VW will not be getting a Raptor equivalent.



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    And it is way above the league of the Amarok engine power wise
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    Default Re: Ford's new 3L V6 Diesel "Lion" Engine

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    And it is way above the league of the Amarok engine power wise
    Indeed and it will be reflected in the price as such.

    The whole drive train and suspension setup will be bespoke to that model.

    All manufacturers have the tech to build engines like that and fit it into any car.

    The next gen AMG 63 engines will be hybrid, 2L 4cyl engines, making around 400kw......
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    Default Re: Ford's new 3L V6 Diesel "Lion" Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by clubbie View Post
    The next gen AMG 63 engines will be hybrid, 2L 4cyl engines, making around 400kw......
    Now that is sad, so we loose the best engine note in the world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DustGypsy View Post
    Now that is sad, so we loose the best engine note in the world?
    Indeed.

    AMG probably has the best sounding modern V8 engines.
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    As DiscoMat said above - i love my D4 engine and will probably be selling the other cars and getting the Everest with this power stroke engine.

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    Default Re: Ford's new 3L V6 Diesel "Lion" Engine

    I saw a new Everest on Sunday at 11:40 just off Nelmapius...very nice looking.
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    I think the "Platinum" Everest V6 Diesel is going to interest ex D4 / D3 LR owners as it has slightly more space and has a good 4x4 drive train. I have used our Everest in some rough places on the Farm and it performs very well. Can not wait to see the new one. I think the Ranger WildTrack also with V6 diesel is also going to be a good seller. I hear rumors of an Everest coming out in Wildtrack format as well. Then it will be a great overlander.

    There is the debate SUV or Double cab for overlanding? Personal choice I would say. As long as it has the V6 Diesel motor.

    BruceHun can this motor be fitted to a D4 as a rebuild?
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    https://youtu.be/k-8D-aHJbCE

    Interesting review of the V6 XLT.
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    Default Re: Ford's new 3L V6 Diesel "Lion" Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by QuQ View Post
    I think that Ford have hit it out of the park with the new Ranger & Everest in terms of design and specs. I am a big 6cyl diesel fan and that is the one I would go for. However, I have read that it is the "Lion" engine of Land Rover Discovery 3 & 4 fame ... the one with the crankshaft issues. Are any of you aware of changes that Ford made to the motor to prevent the same issue?
    Good friend of mine lost his lion V6 motor
    Ford put in a brand new motor started losing water from day one
    Went back and according to them its got a blown Headgasket

    First motor broke a cam pulley if I recall correctly

    Ford is now investigating

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