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    Dear members,

    There seems to be a prevailing misconception about the use of social media platforms.

    In the recent past we have seen numerous threads posted in which members have opposite views on a subject, and granted these views are often pushed to the extremes (on both sides of the fence).

    But there has also been a trend that the moment you disagree with the OP or its theme, you are viewed as cynical, negative or a bitter old fart. It is this perception that I wish to discuss on this thread.

    It should be common cause to everyone here that as a community we reflect all walks of life and by implication, we shall have diverse views on subjects, not even taking into account our diverse range of personalities.

    I'll be the first to admit that I have on more than one occasion posted something with the intent to ruffle the feathers a bit. This I do for two reasons: (1) I consider myself a clown and do it for my own amusement and (2) to bring across a different point of view - i.e. to force the reader to think about the subject differently. With regards to the first mentioned point, that is my personality and I shall do my best to restrain myself. On the last mentioned aspect, I do so to express my views, albeit on a cryptic level sometimes. I am also sure that if and when I cross the line, the mods will remedy the issue in a manner they deem fit (and which I accept).

    But it must always be borne in mind that this is a social media platform and once you click the submit button, you have to accept that:

    1) Others may not agree with you

    2) Others may post different views

    3) Others may criticize your views.

    This is part and parcel of using social media and the dynamics thereof differ somewhat to a personal conversation. It would be unfair in my view, given the above, to admonish someone who views a subject differently and to request a member to adopt an attitude of "smile and wave" thereby implying that if you do not agree with a subject, rather move along. This is not how social media works.

    This however does not mean that you can say what you want. Good manners and tact goes a long way - something which I shall make a greater effort of. I guess the best way to explain it is this: you should never put yourself in a position that you demand someone gets of his high horse to come and wrestle with you in the mud - if that makes any sense.

    Anyway, I have spoken my peace. Carry on and cheers.
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    Default Re: A common misconception about social media

    Hoeveel hof sake is daar wat jou frustreer en afgehandel moet word
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    Edited my first post to include the word "never".

    Freudian slip I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tweeling View Post
    Hoeveel hof sake is daar wat jou frustreer en afgehandel moet word
    Ek bedank oom vir die feit dat oom die waagmoed het om my opinie te kritiseer

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    Default Re: A common misconception about social media

    I disagree. You dissertation is not complete.

    I too fall fowl of my quirky personality. Often, in fact very often, what I intended to say, and what people thought I said are VERY different things.

    What I don't like is people making snide comments instead of joining the debate and calling a spade a spade to your face.
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    Default Re: A common misconception about social media

    That is true Willem.

    If we all were of the same opinion then the threads will be one pagers.

    Posting a comment on a social media platform leaves you open to criticism and the bad wolfs to devour you.

    Thus, be prepared to ignore / take it on the chin and move on if that happens.

    I must also add that in general we have a cool bunch of members here.
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    Valid points there, these 3 ones.


    I think one of the reasons why everything tends to argue easier on social media is because of the (semi) anonymity on internet involved, as well as the false/safe secure feeling one has behind a keyboard and screen, sitting at home, or office, with various luxuries others do not have (such as internet, aircon, swimming pool, paid-off house, a dream-car).


    Everyone has unique life styles and experiences, which is the indirect cause of their personality, viewpoints and reason for different opinions.

    Many also have not the insights or experience that others have experienced, so they could not give a more balanced, reasonable, fair, you name it, opinion or advice.


    For example:
    - any idea how a disabled person struggled thru life? Can you put yourself in their shoes and, with all honesty, disagree with that disabled person(s)?
    - same applies for living/growing-up in a poor environment where one has to wonder where the next food or clothes or money comes in?


    Having said that, it is always a good idea to write down something on a forum, but before one press the "Submit' button, ask yourself these 3 points of WoesteWillem.


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    Default Re: A common misconception about social media

    Quote Originally Posted by Woestyn Willem View Post
    Dear members,

    There seems to be a prevailing misconception about the use of social media platforms.

    In the recent past we have seen numerous threads posted in which members have opposite views on a subject, and granted these views are often pushed to the extremes (on both sides of the fence).

    But there has also been a trend that the moment you disagree with the OP or its theme, you are viewed as cynical, negative or a bitter old fart. It is this perception that I wish to discuss on this thread.

    It should be common cause to everyone here that as a community we reflect all walks of life and by implication, we shall have diverse views on subjects, not even taking into account our diverse range of personalities.

    I'll be the first to admit that I have on more than one occasion posted something with the intent to ruffle the feathers a bit. This I do for two reasons: (1) I consider myself a clown and do it for my own amusement and (2) to bring across a different point of view - i.e. to force the reader to think about the subject differently. With regards to the first mentioned point, that is my personality and I shall do my best to restrain myself. On the last mentioned aspect, I do so to express my views, albeit on a cryptic level sometimes. I am also sure that if and when I cross the line, the mods will remedy the issue in a manner they deem fit (and which I accept).

    But it must always be borne in mind that this is a social media platform and once you click the submit button, you have to accept that:

    1) Others may not agree with you ​​Yes they are entitled to be wrong.

    2) Others may post different views ​​It's good to see how wrong they can actually be

    3) Others may criticize your views. ​​Keyboard tough guys!

    This is part and parcel of using social media and the dynamics thereof differ somewhat to a personal conversation. It would be unfair in my view, given the above, to admonish someone who views a subject differently and to request a member to adopt an attitude of "smile and wave" thereby implying that if you do not agree with a subject, rather move along. This is not how social media works. ​I don't request that OTHER'S smile and wave, it is I who chooses to do so. Life is so much easier when one accepts that others don't have to comply to one's own way of thinking and one is grown up enough to just give a smile of derision and simply walk away.

    This however does not mean that you can say what you want. Good manners and tact goes a long way - something which I shall make a greater effort of. I guess the best way to explain it is this: you should never put yourself in a position that you demand someone gets of his high horse to come and wrestle with you in the mud - if that makes any sense. ​ Yep, the superior attitude displayed by some other's is often mirrored in ourselves.

    Anyway, I have spoken my peace. Carry on and cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GroenHoender View Post
    Valid points there, these 3 ones.


    I think one of the reasons why everything tends to argue easier on social media is because of the (semi) anonymity on internet involved, as well as the false/safe secure feeling one has behind a keyboard and screen, sitting at home, or office, with various luxuries others do not have (such as internet, aircon, swimming pool, paid-off house, a dream-car).


    Everyone has unique life styles and experiences, which is the indirect cause of their personality, viewpoints and reason for different opinions.

    Many also have not the insights or experience that others have experienced, so they could not give a more balanced, reasonable, fair, you name it, opinion or advice.


    For example:
    - any idea how a disabled person struggled thru life? Can you put yourself in their shoes and, with all honesty, disagree with that disabled person(s)?
    - same applies for living/growing-up in a poor environment where one has to wonder where the next food or clothes or money comes in?


    Having said that, it is always a good idea to write down something on a forum, but before one press the "Submit' button, ask yourself these 3 points of WoesteWillem.


    My 2c's ge-gorrel (as a disabled but I think many won't/don't care) :-)
    And that's the thing Groenhoender: I now know that you are disabled. Therefore, I shall be more sensitive to your position, but on topics unrelated, I will say my say regardless - lucky we mostly agree on most issues

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    I think we can all do with a teaspoon of cement once in a while to toughen up regarding differing points of view.

    On a slightly unrelated point, most legal guys I know would use best members instead of dear members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanvn View Post
    I think we can all do with a teaspoon of cement once in a while to toughen up regarding differing points of view.

    On a slightly unrelated point, most legal guys I know would use best members instead of dear members.
    I regard all members as dear, but most certainly not as best - as is my social media right

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    Hmmm

    What is it today, Wednesday?


    Friday is still coming.



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    I am offended and you all need to change your mind.

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    Fun fact, you can reverse percentages that look tricky to work out in your head. For example 16% of 25 is the same thing as 25% of 16
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    Quote Originally Posted by WAJ View Post
    Hmmm

    What is it today, Wednesday?


    Friday is still coming.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanvn View Post
    I think we can all do with a teaspoon of cement once in a while to toughen up regarding differing points of view.

    On a slightly unrelated point, most legal guys I know would use best members instead of dear members.
    Ahh that might help, I was having running poop for months now and was afraid immodium might block the system completely
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsyPhin View Post
    I am offended and you all need to change your mind.
    Case in point.

    You are being comical and I appreciate that.

    People need to be less selective.

    If everyone can do that, it would be super.

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    Apology accepted Willem
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    I find it worrying how many members need to comment and opinion on such a variety of threads and with such repetition.

    Even as an adult, I remember Mom's words: "learn to listen and speak when spoken to"

    One doesn't always have to join in the conversation to benefit from it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woestyn Willem View Post
    I regard all members as dear, but most certainly not as best - as is my social media right
    'Dear' Willem
    Try using best ' ' and best regards with your clients in future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieterf View Post
    I find it worrying how many members need to comment and opinion on such a variety of threads and with such repetition.

    Even as an adult, I remember Mom's words: "learn to listen and speak when spoken to"

    One doesn't always have to join in the conversation to benefit from it
    Case in point 2:

    My understanding is that when you post for instance in the 4x4 pub, you do not have a single recipient in mind otherwise you would have had a conversation with that person directly. You post in the pup to garner a wide variety of viewers, who may disagree. And that is my gripe.

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