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    Default Re: Has Toyota lost their marbles!??

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    Mmmm...

    I buy a Hilux for R800k

    You buy a Ford for R800k less R100k discount.. = R700k

    In 3 years I sell my Hilux for R730k, and you sell your Ford for R500k..

    Who has spent more money?
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    Maybe... But the point is valid. Is Toyota so expensive over the three year period, if your return is taken into consideration?
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    Not really.. What is their resale value?
    Quote Originally Posted by Woestyn Willem View Post
    Have you attended some of the Toyotas Witnesses' sermons recently?
    All I'm hearing is that the happiest day of a Toyota owner's life is the day he sells it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Pint View Post
    All I'm hearing is that the happiest day of a Toyota owner's life is the day he sells it
    I can see where you get that...
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    I would consider myself an accidental Toyota fan.

    4 months before the covid lockdown, I bought a RAV4 on a very good promo price. I financed it with Toyota Financial Services.

    In September this year I looked at trading it in for a Fortuner.

    The trade in offer on the RAV 4 was significantly higher than my settlement, so cash in the bank. I was given a R15K discount off the retail price on a new Fortuner, plus free rubber mats, free smash and grab, free spare wheel lock and a few expensive personal gifts. (Not loaded into the "on the road fees")

    Then, because of my lower than usual mileage during lockdown, they refunded in full the extended warranty and extended service plan I had purchased ... cash back into my bank.

    To-date we have already driven 11000km. From -6c covered in ice and snow and up Sani Pass to two weeks later at 39c heat in the Kgalagadi. The Fortuner hasn't skipped a beat.

    I booked the 10000km service on the Toyota app. When I arrive at the dealer, there is a dedicated parking bay with my name on it. The service advisor greets me by my first name. I am given a cappuccino and shown the lounge. One hour later my car is serviced (along with some extra items I requested), washed and returned to me.

    Compare that to Suzuki. I tried to trade in my mint condition Gen4 Jimny manual (10 months old 8000km) on a new auto Jimny. They offered me close to current retail minus R80k. (and I have at least R50K of extras fitted). Suzuki in greater Durban doesn't have any of their own servicing dealers. You have to go to Mazda/Nissan/Delta etc. for next level terrible experience.

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    If you are the top seller month after month year after year and your supply can't keep up with demand you will be a pretty dumb business man if you don't raise your prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    I can see where you get that...
    Toemaar. Soos oom Francois uitgewys het, ek is 'n closet Toyota fan. Enige van hulle cruiser reeks is vir my mooi. Selfs die Prado. En as ek enige van hulle besit het, sal elke tweede woord uit my mond seker Toyota wees.

    Maar Haailux, Rav en Corolla, nee dankie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woestyn Willem View Post
    Toemaar. Soos oom Francois uitgewys het, ek is 'n closet Toyota fan. Enige van hulle cruiser reeks is vir my mooi. Selfs die Prado. En as ek enige van hulle besit het, sal elke tweede woord uit my mond seker Toyota wees.

    Maar Haailux, Rav en Corolla, nee dankie.
    Hah, so jy oorweeg om jou man card terug te vat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanvn View Post
    Hah, so jy oorweeg om jou man card terug te vat?
    Stadig. Ek koop net nou jou cruiser en gee dit vir my vrou om mee rond te ry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Pint View Post
    All I'm hearing is that the happiest day of a Toyota owner's life is the day he sells it
    Same can be said of a certain vehicle made in Solihull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woestyn Willem View Post
    Stadig. Ek koop net nou jou cruiser en gee dit vir my vrou om mee rond te ry.
    Na Ian se yummy mammie storie weet ek nie of dit n goeie plan is nie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    Maybe... But the point is valid. Is Toyota so expensive over the three year period, if your return is taken into consideration?
    Toyota coerced R100k out of a friend during the first 200k km's on a d4d Hilux...

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    Well I bought my '97 Hilux bakkie in 2010 for R70 000...already a premium as I got only R105 000 for my 'modern' 2007 Hilux

    Now I get offers beyond R100 000.

    Go figure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by A1ex View Post
    Haha that's it supply and demand than it's the Toyota buyers who are the ones losing their marbles, thinking about it more and more with the secondhand value they receive for these vehicles they don't end up losing out though.

    So it sounds like people buy them for their reliability then... Now how much more reliable to their rivals are they? I can think of a few brands that are just as reliable and can pretty much match toyota for spec...

    2021 Brand New Hilux, R999 995!!!

    https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...50912706400609

    R1million no man!
    Just saw a ford with 5000km on advertised for a million and nineteen thousand.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woestyn Willem View Post
    Stadig. Ek koop net nou jou cruiser en gee dit vir my vrou om mee rond te ry.
    Dit is in wie se hande my Cruiser nou is, word daagliks plaas skool toe gery and dan met n draai deur die dorp terug huis toe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    Just saw a ford with 5000km on advertised for a million and nineteen thousand.....
    This was the most expensive Ford I could find on Gumtree.

    2021 (Brand New) Ford Ranger Raptor R960k

    https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...01012706400609
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    Mmmm...

    I buy a Hilux for R800k

    You buy a Ford for R800k less R100k discount.. = R700k

    In 3 years I sell my Hilux for R730k, and you sell your Ford for R500k..

    Who has spent more money?
    Truth in this statement.

    Wife's Rav4:
    Paid R560k, trade-in offered R475k = -R85k on 3 years.

    Mileage = 63000km, thus it equates to paying R1.35 per km for the use of the vehicle over this period. My mind tells me that is a bargain for a brand new car.

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    Sold my 2019 HIlux 4x4 back to Toyota a month ago as I had bought a 2002 4.2 TD 100 Series from my uncle. Toyota are struggling with stock, so nobody's trading in old Toyotas - resulting in them offering me R60k above retail for mine.

    Really nice part is, I got the 100 series at a very decent price, and even though I spent a lot on it in the last month to get everything 100%, I know it's value is just going up every day.

    So ja, it's possibly a fictional market. Perhaps the Bitcoin of cars, but everyone seems to agree - Toyotas don't break and with new vehicle prices being insane, and salaries shrinking, older, reliable cars are going to see a big surge in demand.

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    Ultimately its not the value of vehicles that are going up, its our Rand that is devaluing at a speed of note...
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    Out of the 56 vehicles I have owned to date 10 were Toyotas. Have owned a vehicle from most of the large motor companies.

    The Toyota price thing is not new. Bought a 2.4D Hilux round 1998 for R48000.00 new. Sold it around 5 years later with 350k km on the clock for R45000.00

    When selling any Toyota it were seldom a big loss even with high km readings.
    Took the biggest nock on VW, Nissan and Isuzu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grips View Post
    Out of the 56 vehicles I have owned to date 10 were Toyotas. Have owned a vehicle from most of the large motor companies.

    The Toyota price thing is not new. Bought a 2.4D Hilux round 1998 for R48000.00 new. Sold it around 5 years later with 350k km on the clock for R45000.00

    When selling any Toyota it were seldom a big loss even with high km readings.
    Took the biggest nock on VW, Nissan and Isuzu.
    I bought a Range Rover in 2001 for R450 000.00 and sold it in 2018 for R40 000.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    I bought a Range Rover in 2001 for R450 000.00 and sold it in 2018 for R40 000.00

    Sounds about right!
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