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    Quote Originally Posted by Duggen View Post
    To be fair, they were filming a scene that involved him pointing a gun at the camera and firing, he wasn't playing silly buggers with the gun to scare people.

    As for not checking the gun himself, I guess he incorrectly trusted the safety protocols in place.
    They news articles I saw (links earlier in the thread) described the incident closer to "playing of silly buggers". I do believe that the truth will get out at some stage and we are better off waiting for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iandvl View Post
    Six pages of drivel.

    I think about five pages of this deal with grammatical issues - ie: qualifying between the term "pistol" being applicable for a revolver or not, and one or two very sarcastic posts about the origin of the term (well done).

    There was also a digression to the applicability of pilots, and more linguistic mud-slinging in terms of what the correct spelling for certain aircraft models was.

    Sticking to the aeronautical theme, we've also had parrots make their appearance. This was to be expected, as the parrot poster is, in fact, a member of the legal profession (actually, he is just a "member" just joking ) and was probably trying to hide the fact that the post he made was merely to garner some funds from an unsuspecting client under a billable heading titled "avionic research".

    Finally, Willis had to voice some sour grapes relating presumably, to the fact that Alec has been more successful than he has been and should therefore incur the wrath of the law.

    Seriously - it's a really bad thing. I feel for the armourer. The rest of the conjecture and speculation is simply just that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcR View Post
    To calm the nerves a bit... I am posting a violent movie, western, with lots of guns and violence, but no accidents... well, other than those disclosed...

    Wouldn't it be great if the forum had a voice choreographing the forums shenanigans.

    Oh wait - howdy Dirk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    See post 107. You would make an awesome narrator
    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    In the red corner, we have Kalahari Safari - a veteran welter weight with regards to modern firearms with less finesse in terms of older, non-cartridge-based side arms as well as his grasp of the English vernacular.

    In the blue corner, we have C Africa. A relative new comer in forum posts, he can be seen to be punching above his weight, but jab, jab and uppercut. He is not holding back.

    Is that the sort of narration you had in mind ?
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    Default Re: Alec Baldwin & prop gun

    The way I understand safety in the workplace is that Mr Baldwin the actor is innocent and a victim of poor safety protocols and/or practice.
    But, Mr Baldwin the producer, may be in a spot of bother as the responsible person.

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    Americans call anything you hold in one hand a pistol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyades View Post
    Americans call anything you hold in one hand a pistol.
    Gunny disagrees…

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    I am just wondering how practical it would have been to expect an actor to check his own gun for safety?

    Isnt there a lot of retakes, probably empty the magazine plenty times and get handed a new reloaded (with blanks) gun every few minutes?

    Imagine a fast and furious movie, they will be replacing guns mid scene to get the 100 shots per 6mag scenes going

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    Quote Originally Posted by iandvl View Post
    Six pages of drivel.

    I think about five pages of this deal with grammatical issues - ie: qualifying between the term "pistol" being applicable for a revolver or not, and one or two very sarcastic posts about the origin of the term (well done).

    There was also a digression to the applicability of pilots, and more linguistic mud-slinging in terms of what the correct spelling for certain aircraft models was.

    Sticking to the aeronautical theme, we've also had parrots make their appearance. This was to be expected, as the parrot poster is, in fact, a member of the legal profession (actually, he is just a "member" just joking ) and was probably trying to hide the fact that the post he made was merely to garner some funds from an unsuspecting client under a billable heading titled "avionic research".

    Finally, Willis had to voice some sour grapes relating presumably, to the fact that Alec has been more successful than he has been and should therefore incur the wrath of the law.

    Seriously - it's a really bad thing. I feel for the armourer. The rest of the conjecture and speculation is simply just that.
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    Which would be more reasonable? To assume the firearm being handed to you is safe or to check if the firearm being handed to you is safe?

    Clearly, the outcome here is trans-situational so the fact that it is a film set is nullified.
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    These are the recommended safety regulations for movie sets.

    I don't know if it was applicable in this instance (merely recommendations).

    The contents is quite telling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Pint View Post
    I understand what you are saying but have you considered a second-hand Pajero?
    He has. But decided against it. SS is too complicated for non Mitsu guys to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    He has. But decided against it. SS is too complicated for non Mitsu guys to understand.
    This is definitely the reason for it. I struggle to comprehend the awesomeness that is Super Select.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m0lt3n View Post
    ....Imagine a fast and furious movie, they will be replacing guns mid scene to get the 100 shots per 6mag scenes going
    Have you seen John Wick ?

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    Just a bit of trivia - the shootout at OK Corral took place on this day 26th Oct in 1881 at Tombstone, Arizona with the a group of outlaws called the Cowboys vs Virgil and Morgan Earp and Doc Holliday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    Which would be more reasonable? To assume the firearm being handed to you is safe or to check if the firearm being handed to you is safe?

    Clearly, the outcome here is trans-situational so the fact that it is a film set is nullified.
    These are points for speculation until more facts are available.

    Willem provided some good general info on procedures on the set. We must add the framing of the insurance cover for the production. It is important to know how the individual "shoots" are itemised and what the specific conditions were.

    Ironically... with all the Alec Baldwin jokes & memes going on... it's the first time I've found him entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobusDJ View Post
    I'm sure the last Equalizer movie can give John Wick a run for its money in terms of bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m0lt3n View Post
    I am just wondering how practical it would have been to expect an actor to check his own gun for safety?

    Isnt there a lot of retakes, probably empty the magazine plenty times and get handed a new reloaded (with blanks) gun every few minutes?

    Imagine a fast and furious movie, they will be replacing guns mid scene to get the 100 shots per 6mag scenes going
    Exactly the reason why there shouldn't be live ammo lying around.

    In the actors defense, he might not be a firearm expert, so the pistol is just another prop being handed to him by the prop master or armorer.

    Someone like Keanu Reeves is of course in another league!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onematch View Post
    Just a bit of trivia - the shootout at OK Corral took place on this day 26th Oct in 1881 at Tombstone, Arizona with the a group of outlaws called the Cowboys vs Virgil and Morgan Earp and Doc Holliday
    You must mention Wyatt Earp as well.



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