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    Default MAD MAD MAD - Caught our domestic stealing - again.

    The heading says it all. I was in Pretoria and arrived home tonight. Wifey tells me she found our maid with a tin of Cockroach spray and Mosquito spray in her bag. This is not the first time, it happens on a regular basis.

    Why does somebody you care for and lookout for do this to you. She is the only breadwinner, with a heap of hand me down kids from errant family members.

    What to do - what to do.
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    Thats why we have never had a Domestic or Gardener >> too much hassle , Red Tape , Security (Taxi Talk ) and cost etc etc

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    Just think of all the other stuff she's stolen that you don't know about.

    There's literally thousands upon thousands of other people just as desperate that want a job and won't rip you off, it's probably a good time to move on to someone else.
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    Sorry Fluffy, these are the dilemmas we face so often in this country. Very sad. Very tough to deal with really.
    The answers are never as simple as they may seem on the surface. Good luck with the horrid choices all round
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    The heading says it all. I was in Pretoria and arrived home tonight. Wifey tells me she found our maid with a tin of Cockroach spray and Mosquito spray in her bag. This is not the first time, it happens on a regular basis.

    Why does somebody you care for and lookout for do this to you. She is the only breadwinner, with a heap of hand me down kids from errant family members.

    What to do - what to do.
    Do you still trust her?

    Yes - keep her on and change your approach to employee discipline.

    No - fire her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    Do you still trust her?

    Yes - keep her on and change your approach to employee discipline.

    No - fire her.
    The fact that a bag needs to be searched answers your question Willem...

    It is the only option. As soon as you let things slide, well you're on a slippery slope to nothing.
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    Stealing Cockroach and Mosquito spray is not "subsistance poaching". Stealing those items is a premeditated criminal act.

    Fire her.
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    Tightly rolled up newspaper applied liberally around the kidney area.
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    Arrest and dismissed.

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    We live in a country where the majority of citizens do not have a moral compass.

    Like the student who spent over 800K of the 1.4bar that was accidently put into her account. She see's nothing wrong with it. She is pleading innocence.
    Or the guy in the Mercedes or the guy in the jeep that looted. Does not matter if they are well off, they still think stealing is ok.

    It seems like a robin hood thing. Steal from the rich to give to the poor. And that mentality runs in everyone's head...

    FIRE her
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    Sorry to hear uncle Fluffy.
    Same happened to my dad on the farm. One of his pregnant Anatolian shepherds went missing and last week a 3week old puppy. The pregnant female is worth about R50k. He had the police come out and did lie detector tests on all the workers. Turns out it was one of them. He will have him arrested.
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    Had a similar instance in one of the companies I am involved in.

    Caught her stealing last year. Warning given

    Caught her again this year. Fired

    Now if she just asked for help if she was deficient in the area if goods taken, they would probably have helped. We run a foundation through which we help a lot of people. But no, let’s steal…..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    The heading says it all. I was in Pretoria and arrived home tonight. Wifey tells me she found our maid with a tin of Cockroach spray and Mosquito spray in her bag. This is not the first time, it happens on a regular basis.

    Why does somebody you care for and lookout for do this to you. She is the only breadwinner, with a heap of hand me down kids from errant family members.

    What to do - what to do.
    In my experience the employees who you do the most for are usually the ones who becomes entitled and believe they are owed more than what is their due.

    No good deed goes unpunished comes to mind.
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    I seem to remember it was your whisky last time??

    Arrest and fire - unfortunately .

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    Coming from a family who never ever had a domestic, I only have one piece of advice.
    Pack away, pick up and wipe it.
    There is no task too simple for some people to complicate !



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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt Chaos View Post
    I seem to remember it was your whisky last time??

    Arrest and fire - unfortunately .

    compassion is seen as weakness.
    One of my first arbitration cases was about theft.

    While we attended conciliation, the conciliator at one stage asked my client to find it in his heart to forgive the employee.

    Without hesitation my client said he already forgave her.

    But she was still fired.
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    Fluffy - she's actually done you a favor by being caught out. Fire her
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildhunter View Post
    Fluffy - she's actually done you a favor by being caught out. Fire her

    This.
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    DIALOGUE FROM OZARK...

    ...When I was nine years old,

    I started working for my
    parents' grocery store.

    Wasn't a big store, but it fed six kids.

    We had four cashiers.

    Carlotta, our best...

    maybe 30...

    started there when she was 15.

    She was loyal.

    The kind of person you call "Aunt"
    when you're nine years old,

    because she was always there.

    Always with a smile.

    And then one day, my
    father's closing up...

    and he sees Aunt Carlotta slip
    five dollars' worth of pesos...

    out of the till, into her pocket.

    He could not believe it.

    "Why? Why, Carlotta?"

    "If you needed the money, why
    didn't you just come to me?"

    Carlotta was a proud woman.

    Not too proud to steal, but... proud.

    She had four kids, no husband.

    Her youngest one had asthma.

    Said she needed the
    money to buy medicine.

    So her boy could breathe.

    Cried like a baby.

    Swore she would never do it again.

    Begged my father not to fire her.

    Begged.

    Mr. Hanson...

    what should my father
    do with Aunt Carlotta?

    Five dollars?

    You tell her if it happens
    again, she's gone.

    You put her on probation.

    Probation.

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    Thanks for the input everybody. The collection of opinions more or less mirrors the termoil of my conciderations.

    This morning when she arrived we sent her home. Told her to come back on Wednesday with a list of everything she helps/has helped herself to.
    Cheers

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