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    Default So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    I have been looking at getting an SFA as my farm vehicle. A week ago I came across a d/c one in the FS which was okish priced (not a bargain but i can live with it). The condition of the car is fair (mechanically) but needs a lot of work cosmetically.

    Looking on the net, there is a company in Krugersdorp (Living SFA) and another in Steelpoort (google tells me this is somewhere in Limpopo) who both seems to do excellent work from the photos on their respective facebook pages but had no luck in getting a response from either entity.

    I would ideally like to strip the vehicle, sandblast and respray, including the chassis and underbody (anyone has an inkling of what ballpark this will cost?).
    After that i would like to do the interior - the seats are in a terrible state. Will ask the guys at Handelstraat if they would work on them. The roof lining will need to be replaced - i would ideally like to replace with original color - is this even possible?

    The dashboard looks fine enough - some cleaning and it should be good.

    The electricals will certainly need some work.

    I would need Aircon as well - where can i get this done?

    Thanks all for your insights.
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    Pics?
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    All that work for a farm bakkie?
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mueneni View Post
    I have been looking at getting an SFA as my farm vehicle. A week ago I came across a d/c one in the FS which was okish priced (not a bargain but i can live with it). The condition of the car is fair (mechanically) but needs a lot of work cosmetically.

    Looking on the net, there is a company in Krugersdorp (Living SFA) and another in Steelpoort (google tells me this is somewhere in Limpopo) who both seems to do excellent work from the photos on their respective facebook pages but had no luck in getting a response from either entity.

    I would ideally like to strip the vehicle, sandblast and respray, including the chassis and underbody (anyone has an inkling of what ballpark this will cost?).
    After that i would like to do the interior - the seats are in a terrible state. Will ask the guys at Handelstraat if they would work on them. The roof lining will need to be replaced - i would ideally like to replace with original color - is this even possible?

    The dashboard looks fine enough - some cleaning and it should be good.

    The electricals will certainly need some work.

    I would need Aircon as well - where can i get this done?

    Thanks all for your insights.
    Jaco at LivingSFA will sort you out. He's not cheap, but you get what you pay for. +2760 451 5714.

    I see yours is the 3Y, nice engine and the same as the Inyathi (HiAce copy) taxis, which means you can buy a new engine for very little if needed.

    I hope the electricals are stock, that's usually where any problems come from, some twit with a side cutter twisting wires together. At least there's not much wiring needed.

    I'd not bother with aircon, the dash fan in those is a terrible design, so even if you do get the aircon to work (and you need a bunch of fairly rare parts), the cool air doesn't move out of the fan box. Those little quarter windows are your friend.
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    The fundamental question is what you hope to achieve - just get it presentable and functional versus restoring. Looking at the pics, you will have to be very careful not to fall in the vortex of trying to redo everything. It will become a bottomless pit - especially if you outsource to professionals.

    Please post budget, cost estimates and progress on the project, please.

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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    I did something similar on the farm with a Hilux I bought off a game farm. Except did it all myself. Before that with a Nissan. At the very least you will get something back should you sell it one day. Enjoy.
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    Quote Originally Posted by niclemaitre View Post
    Jaco at LivingSFA will sort you out. He's not cheap, but you get what you pay for. +2760 451 5714.

    I see yours is the 3Y, nice engine and the same as the Inyathi (HiAce copy) taxis, which means you can buy a new engine for very little if needed.

    I hope the electricals are stock, that's usually where any problems come from, some twit with a side cutter twisting wires together. At least there's not much wiring needed.

    I'd not bother with aircon, the dash fan in those is a terrible design, so even if you do get the aircon to work (and you need a bunch of fairly rare parts), the cool air doesn't move out of the fan box. Those little quarter windows are your friend.
    That is a 90's model. It should have the 4Y or 22R motor.
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oppies3800 View Post
    That is a 90's model. It should have the 4Y or 22R motor.
    Now I see the 2200 sticker on the back. You are correct, 4Y. The brown interior had me fooled, I thought that was only on the 2l 3Y. Maybe they only did the grey later with the 22R. Still it's the same engine as the Inyathis, and when I last looked, the entire engine was around 9k.

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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    A 4y at Midas is now R20k

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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    Thanks folks, so what i am looking for is first of all getting it mechanically 100%. Important that I can rely on the car when I am out in the bush. After that, i would like it as presentable as possible - I prefer my cars neat, so fix the seats, rooflining, ideal put on the gear stickers on as well.

    In all honesty, I do not understand the neglect that cars are subjected to, example - how does one get to a state when seats are worn like that?

    I have no budget in mind, but would be good if I do not spend more than 40k getting it back in good nick. Also no idea of potential cost but since it is a toyota i think once fixed I will get good service from it.
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    Try and get Cressida, Corolla or Tazz seats.

    With a budget of R40k you might have to do some work yourself.

    Toyota carries most parts for the diffs, gearbox and motor, or they can order.

    The Midas 4Y is a Chinese copy and not as good as the original.
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    You can get 2nd hand spares from N1 4x4 and Ultimate 4x4.

    I fitted BMW 3series seats to mine, it does need some mods to the mounts. Seats from the convertibles are the best, since they are quite low.

    Mechanically they are very durable, but things to check are the steering linkage, particularly the draglink is prone to wearing out the balls and the cups.

    The axle oil seals on the front swivel hubs wear out, allowing oil into the hub grease in the knuckle, and then the grease leaks out.

    The rear prop shaft develops play at the slip joint and there is usually quite a lot of backlash in the pinion.

    Front leaf spring seats get bent down and the front leafs then make a W shape. This can be corrected by removing the springs, flattening the spring seat with a hammer and welding in some flat bar to support the front and back of the seat. Then new springs from Mikem.

    The bushes on the leaves also go, it's best to replace the bush and pin together, and get greaseable pins.

    Enjoy it, they are fun vehicles to work on.

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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    Quote Originally Posted by niclemaitre View Post
    You can get 2nd hand spares from N1 4x4 and Ultimate 4x4.

    I fitted BMW 3series seats to mine, it does need some mods to the mounts. Seats from the convertibles are the best, since they are quite low.

    Do you have photos of the setup? would appreciate
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    So I popped by Living SFA and had a chat with Jaco, pleasant guy to deal with. By the look of things I would have to re-look at my budget . I don't like things being "half-assed" and really like my cars neat but spending as much as what I paid for the car is also a tough ask.

    I like the fact that he basically strips the cars to the bone and then re-assemble (I think will do that). Repainting alone will cost about 35k, is this the going rate? I would have expected somewhere in the region of 15k.

    From experienced members here, is it worthwhile to strip the gearbox and engine? I would like to give the car at least another 7-10 years of life if possible. What are the key items that must be attended to?
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    That's why I asked about the amount of effort and budget for a plaas bakkie ........
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    Going through all that effort and expense, is it not possible to sell what you have and just buy what you actually want by adding what you were quoted to get the vehicle up to your standard? Petri had a fairly decent one up for sale not long ago, maybe get someone in the trade to keep a lookout for one.

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    Mueneni has bought a pig and wants a princess.
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    Mueneni has bought a pig and wants a princess.
    His money.(I get where he is coming from - I'd rather not have something than a half-arsed version of it).
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    Default Re: So I bought a 1990 Hilux SFA - now where to refurbish?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mueneni View Post
    So I popped by Living SFA and had a chat with Jaco, pleasant guy to deal with. By the look of things I would have to re-look at my budget . I don't like things being "half-assed" and really like my cars neat but spending as much as what I paid for the car is also a tough ask.

    I like the fact that he basically strips the cars to the bone and then re-assemble (I think will do that). Repainting alone will cost about 35k, is this the going rate? I would have expected somewhere in the region of 15k.

    From experienced members here, is it worthwhile to strip the gearbox and engine? I would like to give the car at least another 7-10 years of life if possible. What are the key items that must be attended to?
    Just put in other seats and use as is.
    It will go another 10 years with a smile.
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