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    Suzuki Dzire has slippery Apollo 165/80 R14 at the end of life. That size is not common. Proposed replacement size 185/65 R14.

    Has anybody had Dunlop SP 560? Any comments. Reasonable price R3000.00 fitted plus wheel alignment. Old times Dunlops were really slippery.

    I am looking for tires that are not slippery and are not noisy. Car is used mainly in town with occasional road trip.

    Any comments appreciated.
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    For that application I would stick with Hankook, Michelin or Pirelli.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko View Post
    Suzuki Dzire has slippery Apollo 165/80 R14 at the end of life. That size is not common. Proposed replacement size 185/65 R14.

    Has anybody had Dunlop SP 560? Any comments. Reasonable price R3000.00 fitted plus wheel alignment. Old times Dunlops were really slippery.

    I am looking for tires that are not slippery and are not noisy. Car is used mainly in town with occasional road trip.

    Any comments appreciated.
    Are the quoted sizes correct? The new size seems to be just shy of 4% smaller, which is a lot.

    I have had good experiences with Khumo, but I don't think they are cheap any more. For a cheap road tire maybe look at Highfly or Powertrac, I have experience with both and they seem to perform well for a budget tire used on the road. (I actually had Powertrac on the Treg for a while and besides the side wall being pretty soft they never gave me any hassles, I did some 4x4ing and some long distance travel and some gravel with no issues.)


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    Will 195/65r14 not work? Used to be standard size for the e30 bmw.
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    I would not use dunlops if they came for free...


    Get some yokohamas - grips very well and very quiet for road car use. (softer compound generally)
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    Thanks for the comments.

    We have had good experience with Hanook. SWAMBO had them on the previous car. Kumho (Made in Korea) also but the last set for Jeep was Chinese made. Initially good but then internal trouble and balancing became a mission. Were also wearing faster than expected.

    Size is an issue. I have had different recommendations. The one I gave is from a company doing a lot of replacements on Suzuki. Other sizes mentioned on the internet have been 175/70 R14 and 185/70 R14.

    I need to go to more tire companies. Two I went to I expected to be expensive. They could not make any recommendation on size Both had only one make to offer.

    I am not very keen on Chinese tires. I am sure there are some that are OK but there are too many that are not. I am prepared to pay fair price but not a stupid price.
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    I went to Yokohama BluEarth 185/70R14 on a Swift. Works well. The Suzuki's gearing is fairly low so the extra bit of rubber works a treat. Came in at around R3800 for 4.
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    I dont know that Suzuki but unless its very old , have never seen any modern road cars with 80 profile tires , so no wonder they are hard to get, but on a city car with low performance the top brands are a bit of a waste of money , the correct replacement is 185/70/14 , thats if the rim will handle it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom13 View Post
    I went to Yokohama BluEarth 185/70R14 on a Swift. Works well. The Suzuki's gearing is fairly low so the extra bit of rubber works a treat. Came in at around R3800 for 4.
    185/70R14 is slightly smaller and 195/70R14 is slightly bigger (1.2%), so either of those would probably make good replacements. Also both of those seem to have a number of reasonably priced options available. Slightly wider than the original but should still work perfectly on the rims.


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    Looks like a bit more just now.

    We have the automated manual box. Those Apollo tires spin even on dry tar. The engine is normally aspirated 1.2 l. I cannot spin tires driving 4.7 l V8.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom13 View Post
    I went to Yokohama BluEarth 185/70R14 on a Swift. Works well. The Suzuki's gearing is fairly low so the extra bit of rubber works a treat. Came in at around R3800 for 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko View Post
    Looks like a bit more just now.

    We have the automated manual box. Those Apollo tires spin even on dry tar. The engine is normally aspirated 1.2 l. I cannot spin tires driving 4.7 l V8.
    Sounds like a good reason to go to larger and wider tires!


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    Indian made Suzuki. Suzuki is there like Toyota here. About 2 years old.

    Apollo has much better tires than this what Suzuki has. Very close to premium makes. It is like early Japanese cars. They had really cheap, slippery and short lasting tires. Family of school friend of mine had Datsun dealership. They had a lot of totally unused original Datsun tires. I saw on the internet that people are selling those original Apollo tires.

    I have to put better tires before the rainy season. One short loss on concentration and one of us is in trouble. As a car Dzire is good/very good. SWAMBO rushed this morning to Bloem and said the car is like new Polo she went on couple thousand km trip with her friend. Today's trip is the first longer drive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Commander View Post
    Sounds like a good reason to go to larger and wider tires!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 12richardk View Post
    the correct replacement is 185/70/14 , thats if the rim will handle it
    ...and the wheel arches on turns...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitebob View Post
    ...and the wheel arches on turns...
    185/70R14 is slightly smaller than the current 165/80R14 so surely this won't be a problem?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitebob View Post
    ...and the wheel arches on turns...
    No problem from full lock to full lock. I went the 185 route purely for a bigger foot print.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander View Post
    185/70R14 is slightly smaller than the current 165/80R14 so surely this won't be a problem?
    Also wider, but if Tom says it's clear, you should be good
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    Just a note on speedo speed and true speed.

    What I have done on a few vehicles is to use 1 or 2 gps's on the windscreen and find a even stretch of road. Then assistance reads out true gps speed and compare speedo, at say 120 kph. Then calculate the % out.

    New tyres could help even out the difference. Generally found that speedo underreads. Cruiser 79 is out but wheels and tyres changed when new.

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    I went to many tire places. The following is available:

    - No stock
    - Korean made (many brands). Please go and check the text on tire. It is Korean. Please check. Yes Boss. Made in China. Not only Korean brands but some semi premium also.
    - Chines makes having many "brand names"
    - Very expensive premium brands but not many available

    - Locally made GoodYear Efficient Grip. Over R1300.00 per tire.

    Two places actually did a proper check. Asked what car, what is the original size, used some computer program... Tire&More and Tiger Wheel and Tire. 185/65 R14 is "out of speck". 185/70 R14 is in speck. They actually wanted to sell and had some technical knowledge.

    It is wider than the original. Better to buy new rims. (Car has steel now.) Less change of a side wall damage. All inclusive about R10 000.00. Early end of year present for SWAMBO. Better than a vacuum cleaner

    Recommendation: Do not trust what these blokes say. Check everything. In one place the sales guy "nearly fell of the chair" because he has been selling Korean tires but they are Chinese. I burned my fingers one time. Not again.

    I was told by a person who has had those GoodYears that they are good but 2nd opinion would be nice.

    P.S. I always check the speedo. In the past using those blue marker boards on the side of the road plus stop watch. Today we have navigators so I use those and SWAMBO does the same.
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    I have used Falken in the past without any issue. I am replacing crap soon on our I20 with some Falken

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