Results 1 to 20 of 59

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Veluwe
    Posts
    100
    Thanked: 49

    Default Kenya - Selfdrive trip - October '21

    Hi all!

    Hope you are all healthy and doing well!
    I posted this thread in East-Africa subforum, not knowing there's a separate Kenya forum..Oops
    I've bin reading for a while and this forum is an absolute gem, just like the other country forums. Happy to see Stan and WW (and others ofc) are around since both also gave great help planning my Uganda & Botswana adventure.

    I've made a post before when I had plans to visit Kenya from Uganda, but covid struck and all plans were gone.
    But hopefully this time I can finally join the great plains of Kenya. I'm travelling with my girlfriend and we will arrive on the 2nd of October and fly back on the 24th of October.

    We arrive around 0600 in the morning. The plan is to do the shopping (meat & groceries) and head for the Mara. It will probably be a tight schedule and no one likes to be stressing at the start of the holiday, so it would be great to find a nice stopover.

    I've been planning to visit Mara & Amboseli, I think two parks would be sufficient since migration is in full spin and the Mara would probably be the main event.

    I would love to receive your tips on where to stay (campsites etc). I've read that the public campsites in Triangle doesn't have to be booked before arrival, so that makes everything easier as well.

    Would you suggest to just stick to Triangle or also the 'main' reserve?

    I might do the outwards PCR by 'The Pumba Collection' at Amboseli, or at Nairobi
    So stoked to be finally planning again and witness the amazing Africa!

    ---
    From earlier topics I have the following camps in mind already:

    Public
    Eluai
    Iseiya
    Oloololo

    Private
    Kiboko (only 1 night availability left)
    Olarro
    Ndovu

    --
    And now the questions part haha.

    1. What is the average travel time from Nairobi (Carrefour/Butcher) to the Mara? (Thought about Oloololo for the first nights).
    2. I'm renting a vehicle with fridge from 4x4Kenya.com, so planning to take frozen meat. Luckily Africa has prime cuts for good prices. Is Kenya similar to Botswana in costs?
    3. Where should I order my meat? I've read in other topics about Jungle Junctions? Is it only if you stay there or?
    4. Is Nairobi worth it to stay 1-2-3 days at the end of the trip? Of course a nice hotel will do but actually head into city..

    For now I will go back into reading old topics and I hope I don't get too many questions While reading Stan’s report, WW’s topics and the safaribug website I hope to answer a lot of questions already.

    --

    current itinerary:
    2 Oct ??
    3 Oct Oloololo
    4 Oct Oloololo
    5 Oct Oloololo
    6 Oct Oloololo
    7 Oct Iseiya
    8 Oct Iseiya
    9 Oct Iseiya
    10 Oct Eluai
    11 Oct Eluai
    12 Oct Eluai
    13 Oct Eluai
    14 Oct
    15 Oct
    16 Oct JJ
    17 Oct Amboseli
    18 Oct Amboseli
    19 Oct Amboseli
    20 Oct Amboseli
    21 Oct Amboseli
    22 Oct Nairobi
    23 Oct Nairobi
    24 Oct Flight back to Holland
    Last edited by DutchieGoingAfrica; 2021/07/31 at 09:11 AM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    UK
    Age
    63
    Posts
    1,966
    Thanked: 1445

    Default Re: Kenya - Selfdrive trip - October '21

    Oh my goodness, our forum friend from the Netherlands…

    You have asked too many questions - all of which I answer every time someone posts on the Kenyan section of this forum.

    I will take a deep breath … and get back to you in the next week or so.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Veluwe
    Posts
    100
    Thanked: 49

    Default Re: Kenya - Selfdrive trip - October '21

    Well, not sure if that’s sarcastic or not. Don’t know why but.....

    Currently reading a lot of old trip reports, just discovered this forum yesterday since I thought there was only a East Africa forum.
    Last edited by DutchieGoingAfrica; 2021/07/31 at 08:13 AM.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Santa Cruz, CA
    Posts
    494
    Thanked: 374

    Default Re: Kenya - Selfdrive trip - October '21

    Quote Originally Posted by DutchieGoingAfrica View Post
    Hi all!

    Hope you are all healthy and doing well!
    I posted this thread in East-Africa subforum, not knowing there's a separate Kenya forum..Oops
    I've bin reading for a while and this forum is an absolute gem, just like the other country forums. Happy to see Stan and WW (and others ofc) are around since both also gave great help planning my Uganda & Botswana adventure.

    I've made a post before when I had plans to visit Kenya from Uganda, but covid struck and all plans were gone.
    But hopefully this time I can finally join the great plains of Kenya. I'm travelling with my girlfriend and we will arrive on the 2nd of October and fly back on the 24th of October.

    We arrive around 0600 in the morning. The plan is to do the shopping (meat & groceries) and head for the Mara. It will probably be a tight schedule and no one likes to be stressing at the start of the holiday, so it would be great to find a nice stopover.

    I've been planning to visit Mara & Amboseli, I think two parks would be sufficient since migration is in full spin and the Mara would probably be the main event.

    I would love to receive your tips on where to stay (campsites etc). I've read that the public campsites in Triangle doesn't have to be booked before arrival, so that makes everything easier as well.

    Would you suggest to just stick to Triangle or also the 'main' reserve?

    I might do the outwards PCR by 'The Pumba Collection' at Amboseli, or at Nairobi
    So stoked to be finally planning again and witness the amazing Africa!

    ---
    From earlier topics I have the following camps in mind already:

    Public
    Eluai
    Iseiya
    Oloololo

    Private
    Kiboko (only 1 night availability left)
    Olarro
    Ndovu

    --
    And now the questions part haha.

    1. What is the average travel time from Nairobi (Carrefour/Butcher) to the Mara? (Thought about Oloololo for the first nights).
    2. I'm renting a vehicle with fridge from 4x4Kenya.com, so planning to take frozen meat. Luckily Africa has prime cuts for good prices. Is Kenya similar to Botswana in costs?
    3. Where should I order my meat? I've read in other topics about Jungle Junctions? Is it only if you stay there or?
    4. Is Nairobi worth it to stay 1-2-3 days at the end of the trip? Of course a nice hotel will do but actually head into city..

    For now I will go back into reading old topics and I hope I don't get too many questions While reading Stan’s report, WW’s topics and the safaribug website I hope to answer a lot of questions already.

    --

    current itinerary:
    2 Oct ??
    3 Oct Oloololo
    4 Oct Oloololo
    5 Oct Oloololo
    6 Oct Oloololo
    7 Oct Iseiya
    8 Oct Iseiya
    9 Oct Iseiya
    10 Oct Eluai
    11 Oct Eluai
    12 Oct Eluai
    13 Oct Eluai
    14 Oct
    15 Oct
    16 Oct JJ
    17 Oct Amboseli
    18 Oct Amboseli
    19 Oct Amboseli
    20 Oct Amboseli
    21 Oct Amboseli
    22 Oct Nairobi
    23 Oct Nairobi
    24 Oct Flight back to Holland
    I am not the expert, but a couple thoughts... Eluai and Iseiya (Marked as "Serena Public Campsite" on some maps) campsites are very near each other, effectively putting you in the same place in the park, so the only reason to stay at both is to experience both sites. My personal thought is that Iseiya doesn't hold up when compared to Eluai. It does have trees (shade) and a long drop toilet but is otherwise unremarkable. Eluai has neither of these, but does have a view and wide open wilderness feel. Iseiya is so tucked into the bush that you will likely have no breeze either, potentially very hot. Since they are both public camps you may not have to choose, you could simply move to the one you prefer after checking in with the rangers.

    Regarding meat, there was a recent lengthy discussion of meat buying in Nairobi here: https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...d-advice/page2

    You have 11 nights booked in Mara. The Mara Triangle is right up there with the best (maybe THE best) parks we have been to, but 11 nights might be too much (can't believe I wrote that) in the relatively compact Triangle. I personally would consider spending a least a couple days in the other side of the park, or use those days elsewhere in your Kenya journey. You can also day trip to the other side after checking in at the Mara River Bridge Gate.

    I am not much for spending time in Nairobi beyond logistics, though there are some sights to see, perhaps I have missed out in the past. Particularly given the covid environment I would minimize time in the city.
    Last edited by CalDriver; 2021/07/31 at 09:54 PM.
    Blog of our African travels: stuckinlowgear.com

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to CalDriver For This Useful Post:


  6. #5
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Florida
    Age
    69
    Posts
    2,994
    Thanked: 854

    Default Re: Kenya - Selfdrive trip - October '21

    Hi Dutchie, hope both of you are doing well. Long time since CKGR! On this trip you guys seem to be taking it slower than your normal style of daily hopping from one campsite to another. Good change.

    You have a lot of reading to do! WW is never sarcastic! �� so there must be a message in her response.

    Caldriver gives good advice here but just maybe you must see if you could add one more reserve to your itinerary.

    Spending a photographic day trip to Nairobi will give you some great pics. But 3 days?

    Enjoy your planning
    Last edited by TRON; 2021/08/01 at 06:00 PM.

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to TRON For This Useful Post:


  8. #6
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Veluwe
    Posts
    100
    Thanked: 49

    Default Re: Kenya - Selfdrive trip - October '21

    Quote Originally Posted by TRON View Post
    Hi Dutchie, hope both of you are doing well. Long time since CKGR! On this trip you guys seem to be taking it slower than your normal style of daily hopping from one campsite to another. Good change.

    You have a lot of reading to do! WW is never sarcastic! �� so there must be a message in her response.

    Caldriver gives good advice here but just maybe you must see if you could add one more reserve to your itinerary.

    Spending a photographic day trip to Nairobi will give you some great pics. But 3 days?

    Enjoy your planning
    Hi Ron,

    Good to see you here as well!
    Hope all is good down South? Any trips planned?

    In Uganda we also took 3-4 days per park, but since the Mara is probably the main event I thought about only two this time.
    Maybe adding one indeed, bin reading Ortelius's TRs about Aberdare, very interesting!

    I've bin reading trough some topics and in one of them a fellow Dutchie got some hassle about lack of trip reports of fellow countrymen, I don't know but I made them on both trips.
    So yea, I don't know, I'll find out the coming days!

    I added Nairobi because of the PCR testing for the flight homebound, but I found that 'The Pumba Collection' does PCR testing in the parks so Nairobi is out of the itinerary. Normally I have trips planned a year ahead or so, but very busy times so only started just now......

  9. #7
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    UK
    Age
    63
    Posts
    1,966
    Thanked: 1445

    Default Re: Kenya - Selfdrive trip - October '21

    To answer Dutchie’s questions (although I seem to remember having a long discussion with Dutchie about 18 months ago on the Mara).

    1. Nairobi to Oloololo gate will take about nine hours. I recommend that you go via the Sekanani gate and through the main reserve as the road from Narok to Sekanani is now good tarmac, and the roads through the main reserve have been repaired. The alternative road from Ngorengore to Oloololo gate is, apparently, still in an atrocious state.
    2. I have never heard of 4x4kenya.com. Ortelius did considerable research on renting 4x4 vehicles and he chose the Dutch-owned Roadtrip Kenya. I caution you against 4x4Kenya.com. Their website has an office in a part of Nairobi that is surprising for a vehicle rental operation.
    3. Meat is of a very high quality in Kenya. Caldriver has given the link to where I recommended various butchers. Chris at Jungle Junction has assisted others on this forum by buying and freezing meat for them. I would imagine that he would do such a great service for those staying with him.
    4. Nairobi, being the capital city, is a busy vibrant place. However, I would not necessarily recommend a visit to central Nairobi although there are a lot of great things to do on the outskirts. A visit to Nairobi National Park never fails to deliver: it is a wonderful park. A visit to the orphaned elephant nursery at the Sheldrick Wildlife Trust is highly recommended. Other recommended places to visit include the Karen Blixen Museum, and the Giraffe Centre.


    11 nights in the Mara is a wonderful length of time, but your logistics will have to be carefully planned with regard to food. There is no need to move public camps. They are all relatively close together and you will be passing the others most days. Private campsites involve a booking fee of KShs 10,000 per booking regardless of whether the booking is for one day or one week. It would not make sense to book a private campsite for one night - or to book two or more private campsites. I would recommend four nights at a public campsite and the remaining seven nights in a private campsite. You have to pay for security at private campsites in addition to the booking fee and the camping fees.

    Amboseli National Park is a wonderful park. However, it is a small park in East African terms. I think three or four nights is ample time. Have you thought about going to Tsavo West NP and Tsavo East NP? Please see my trip reports on Amboseli, Tsavo West and Tsavo East. Also have a look for my “Roads less travelled” trip report.

    Safari njema!

  10. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Wazungu Wawili For This Useful Post:


  11. #8
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    UK
    Age
    63
    Posts
    1,966
    Thanked: 1445

    Default Re: Kenya - Selfdrive trip - October '21


  12. The Following User Says Thank You to Wazungu Wawili For This Useful Post:


  13. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Veluwe
    Posts
    100
    Thanked: 49

    Default Re: Kenya - Selfdrive trip - October '21

    For the upcoming trip I’m also planning to make another roadtrip video.

    For the forum to benefit as well I thought of filming the campsites. Any other ideas? Please let me know.

    For the ones who want to be back in Africa for a few minutes:

    Botswana 2018: https://youtu.be/vBAnTTwX6m4
    Uganda 2019: https://youtu.be/vlNXj738xBQ
    Last edited by DutchieGoingAfrica; 2021/08/07 at 04:49 PM.

  14. The Following User Says Thank You to DutchieGoingAfrica For This Useful Post:


  15. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Location
    Veluwe
    Posts
    100
    Thanked: 49

    Default Re: Kenya - Selfdrive trip - October '21

    Hi all,

    I’m currently checking which private campsite I should book.

    Kiboko was my #1 pick but is fully booked.
    Now not sure which to pick, Dirisha & Ndovu looks great, Olarro also. The more Western located campsites (Kishanga) also show great potential but I feel I should be close to the river since that’s where hopefully the magic happens. On the other hand, Oct could be quite late for crossings and Western area could be more quiet?

    Any tips? Please fire away.

  16. #11
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Braunschweig
    Age
    54
    Posts
    446
    Thanked: 493

    Default Re: Kenya - Selfdrive trip - October '21

    I can highly recommend dirisha, we were there in Jan 2020. Could not check the campsites close-by, they were flooded and not accessible. See my trip report.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •