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    Default Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    I have a little water/dust issues on my slide on camper.
    The hinges have spacers underneath, but not equal, so it creates some gaps here and there.
    Door is 5mm from body on one side and 13mm on the other, no more adjustment left on the locks.

    Current hinges are riveted on, one is broken and some rivets are loose.
    Iím think of making my own hinges as there are 2 different levels on some doors and donít like to look of spacers..
    And also to bolt them through using stainless M6 bolts.

    Any suggestions please?

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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    Totally unacceptable design/workmanship - should you not return it to the manufacturer to fix?

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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightjar View Post
    Totally unacceptable design/workmanship - should you not return it to the manufacturer to fix?

    it's about a year old, but I bought it 2nd hand, so not sure if the previous owner did some work on it.

    overall its quite solid, just the hinge and door rubber part I'm not happy with ..
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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    If those locks are like these:
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    then you can replace the bolt in the locking arm with a longer one to give you more adjustment. If the rubbers are worn you can get replacements from 4x4direct or ProAuto Rubber. Some 10x10 aluminium angle glued with Sikaflex to the inside of the door frame will also help.

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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    Quote Originally Posted by niclemaitre View Post
    If those locks are like these:
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    then you can replace the bolt in the locking arm with a longer one to give you more adjustment. If the rubbers are worn you can get replacements from 4x4direct or ProAuto Rubber. Some 10x10 aluminium angle glued with Sikaflex to the inside of the door frame will also help.

    yes they are,

    have tried that, but it squishes the rubber too death, and still about 5mm off at best.

    Think I will rather make stainless hinges with the correct offset ,this will help with equal spacing/gaps all around..

    hoping to get 5mm and using a 8mm rubber (if available)
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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    You can visit Siverton Canopy Centre in Dykor street for canopy accessories like hinges, locks etc as well as advice.
    Maybe you can change the rubber thickness to match and even bend the lid to suit the gap.
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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    bending wont be possible, its quite rigid.
    but I also feel that would not be a suitable "fix" for this problem though..

    Will do a few drawings tonight and see wat my options are...

    thanks!
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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    As a start, I'll remove the door, hinges and rubbers to investigate further with a clean door and frame. Does the clean door fit perfectly in the frame, ie it's not bent? If all good, then add the hinges and recheck the fit. Continue with rubbers and lock.

    I almost get the impression that the hinge spacers were installed to cover up a bent door or too thick rubbers.
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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    As a start, I'll remove the door, hinges and rubbers to investigate further with a clean door and frame. Does the clean door fit perfectly in the frame, ie it's not bent? If all good, then add the hinges and recheck the fit. Continue with rubbers and lock.

    I almost get the impression that the hinge spacers were installed to cover up a bent door or too thick rubbers.

    yep, this is exactly what I did yesterday.. all square and fit perfectly, the spacers under the hinges need another 5mm (extra spacer) to seat the door in the opening with equal gaps and spacing.

    the doors at the back and opposite side have a additional levels due to the frame, will post some pics of that also.. this results in the two hinges being off by 3mm of each other (if that makes sense?)
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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    also, I guess when the rubbers are new these gaps and differences are taken up by them, but with the wear and tear you can see where the problem lies..
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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    Looks like you guys have this sorted. Work out what gap you have between the door and rebate when the door is in a closed position and then find a rubber seal that will fill this gap after collapsing the tube seal part by 40%. If you don't have enough gap using a pinch seal profile, consider a glue-on rubber profile. Glueing on a rubber seal (rather than knocking one in over the steel lip) at least eliminates the water leaking in "behind" the seal. Other points to check for are square internal lips that leave gaps as the seal takes a shortcut around the internal corner.

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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Modricky View Post
    Looks like you guys have this sorted. Work out what gap you have between the door and rebate when the door is in a closed position and then find a rubber seal that will fill this gap after collapsing the tube seal part by 40%. If you don't have enough gap using a pinch seal profile, consider a glue-on rubber profile. Glueing on a rubber seal (rather than knocking one in over the steel lip) at least eliminates the water leaking in "behind" the seal. Other points to check for are square internal lips that leave gaps as the seal takes a shortcut around the internal corner.
    was not aware this exists.. is it durable and robust, don't want it to come apart 3 months in.

    Thanks for the info!!
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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    joys of having a 18 year old Son that can do CAD drawings, gave him the old hinge and the parameters for clearance and different heights..

    will send it in to my "expensive but quick" laser cutters and benders.. hopefully we will have something in this week.
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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    forgot to update, new hinges on, the spacing is now perfect with a 5mm gap all around.
    Will also clear the rubber without cutting it like it used to be..

    just need to get the new rubbers then she will be perfect..

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    Default Re: Slide on camper dust/water ingrerss

    It looks good. Great stuff.
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