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    Default New BT-50

    Interesting, the new BT-50 (which is basically the same as new Isuzu D-max) will be on sale in SA before the new Isuzu gets to SA.

    https://www.news24.com/wheels/offroa...-sa-20210619-2

    https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/lates...b-3667b21ead31
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    I wonder if we'll ever see the 1.9 diesel here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hennie84 View Post
    I wonder if we'll ever see the 1.9 diesel here.
    Strange displacement for a bakkie though. Apart from the JAC, I can't recall another double cab with that displacement?

    What would the reasoning be behind a 1.9 and not just a 2L?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcePick88 View Post
    Strange displacement for a bakkie though. Apart from the JAC, I can't recall another double cab with that displacement?

    What would the reasoning be behind a 1.9 and not just a 2L?
    For some reason 1.9l for a 4 cylinder diesel is very common. Opel, VW, Renault. Isuzu all went this route at some stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    For some reason 1.9l for a 4 cylinder diesel is very common. Opel, VW, Renault. Isuzu all went this route at some stage.
    True, the engine Opel used was developed by Fiat and used in Alfa's too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcePick88 View Post

    What would the reasoning be behind a 1.9 and not just a 2L?
    We all trying to loose weight. It is the healthy thing.

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    There's no replacement for displacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcePick88 View Post
    Strange displacement for a bakkie though. Apart from the JAC, I can't recall another double cab with that displacement?

    What would the reasoning be behind a 1.9 and not just a 2L?
    So people cannot make jokes about milk bottles?
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    Prices and specs announced

    https://www.news24.com/wheels/offroa...specs-20210721

    Way way over priced. Wont sell more than 15-20 a month at these prices unfortunately.

    23% price increase over the outgoing 3.2 4x4 DC Auto for the 3.0l model

    11-12% increase over outgoing 2.2 4x4 DC manual and Auto models for the 1.9l model

    Its a pity, they look like awesome vehicles.
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    Agreed, looked good but no, i am too poor it seems. Not just these, all double cabs mind you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caracal View Post
    Prices and specs announced

    https://www.news24.com/wheels/offroa...specs-20210721

    Way way over priced. Wont sell more than 15-20 a month at these prices unfortunately.

    23% price increase over the outgoing 3.2 4x4 DC Auto for the 3.0l model

    11-12% increase over outgoing 2.2 4x4 DC manual and Auto models for the 1.9l model

    Its a pity, they look like awesome vehicles.
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    Price looks high, but is this not the first new post pandemic bakkie launch? I think the others that are coming will probably be around the same price point.
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    Just looking at the top model it is not really overpriced, it actually sits nicely in the middle and it probably has the best interior of the lot.

    Mazda 3.0 R797k
    Ford Thunder is R830k
    Ford Wildtrak is R798k
    GWM P-series LT R555k
    Isuzu D-Max R714k
    Triton R699k
    Navara Pro 4X R740k
    Hilux Legend RS R853k or R868k for full spec.
    Amarok BiTDi R777k
    Amarok Highline R922k
    Amarok Extreme R996k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom13 View Post
    Just looking at the top model it is not really overpriced, it actually sits nicely in the middle and it probably has the best interior of the lot.

    Mazda 3.0 R797k
    Ford Thunder is R830k
    Ford Wildtrak is R798k
    Isuzu D-Max R714k
    Triton R699k
    Navara Pro 4X R740k
    Hilux Legend RS R853k or R868k for full spec.
    Amarok BiTDi R777k
    Amarok Highline R922k
    Amarok Extreme R996k
    Consider the entire package: the more expensive, obviously the higher the insurance as well. As for peace of mind, as far as I could determine (and please correct where relevant) are warranties:

    Ford Ranger: 4 years 120 000km warranty, 6 years and 90 000km service plan,
    Mazda BT50, 3 years unl km warranty, 3 years unl km service plan (which may be a winner for some) 3 year unl km roadside assistance. Warranty is short, though.
    Isuzu D-Max: 5 years 120 000km warranty, 5 year 90 000km service plan,
    Toyota 3 year 100 000km warranty, unsure on service plan,
    VW Amarok: 3 year 100 000km warranty, 5 year 90 000km service plan,
    Mitsubishi Triton: 3 year 100 000km warranty, 5 year 90 000km service plan,
    NIssan Navara: 6 year 150 000km warranty, 6 year 90 000 service plan,
    GWM P Series: the top of the range, R554 900, the P series has a 5 year 100 000 km warranty, service plan and road side assistance (same period and kms).

    The "Brand" names are in my opinion too expensive if one considers the entirety of what you will pay... I have not compared a spares basket between them yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WernerDL View Post
    Price looks high, but is this not the first new post pandemic bakkie launch? I think the others that are coming will probably be around the same price point.
    The GWM P Series was launched in Dec 2020 in SA
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    Pointer41 I have to agree that the more established are too expensive for what you get. I'll add the GWM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom13 View Post
    Just looking at the top model it is not really overpriced, it actually sits nicely in the middle and it probably has the best interior of the lot.

    Mazda 3.0 R797k
    Ford Thunder is R830k
    Ford Wildtrak is R798k
    GWM P-series LT R555k
    Isuzu D-Max R714k
    Triton R699k
    Navara Pro 4X R740k
    Hilux Legend RS R853k or R868k for full spec.
    Amarok BiTDi R777k
    Amarok Highline R922k
    Amarok Extreme R996k
    This is the issue, all the mainstream have become very pricey

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    i seriously dont know how people afford these prices for a bakkie.

    R800k is R15k a month.

    yet there are many on the road. so either I'm poor, of mense het teveel geld

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    So the new BT 50 ia actually a new Isuzu.
    Mark my words the new Isuzu will launch cheaper than the BT50.
    Then the only sales they will get are from die hard Mazda fans and people who prefer the look over the Isuzu. I cant see many buying them
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    Not a bad looking bakkie though. It looks better than the current one where you cant tell the difference between the head and the tail lights but there are better looking bakkies around
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