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    Default The "New" Navara...

    Don't know if I've missed it, but I see very little discussion on the new Navara.
    Personally I find it very good looking, reasonably priced in relative terms and I like the idea of Nissan having the insight to go back to a bigger, oldèr and proven engine.

    Any experience will be appreciated... as I'm in the market to upgrade, and although extremely happy with the Ranger, it is getting long in the tooth, expensive and Ford's move to milk bottle engines does not float my boat...
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Yes, and I am really interested in the "insight" you refer to. So exactly what we're the reasons to ditch the 2.3 bi-turbo for an older 2.5 turbo? I've never driven the 2.5 version. I went from the 3.0 turbo diesel Hardbody to the Navara 2.3, but from my perspective the 2.3 is a lovely motor. I've had mine since 2018 and it's done just over 50k on the clock, at least 20k of which were done on open road with very good fuel economy.
    Is it more expensive to maintain, does it have more mechanical issues, more expensive to manufacture? I'd love to know.

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

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    I tried finding something on the web.....niks.

    I like it.

    Looks good and if that 2.5 is from the previous Navara then I will definitely consider it if in the market for a new DC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munnika View Post
    Yes, and I am really interested in the "insight" you refer to. So exactly what we're the reasons to ditch the 2.3 bi-turbo for an older 2.5 turbo? I've never driven the 2.5 version. I went from the 3.0 turbo diesel Hardbody to the Navara 2.3, but from my perspective the 2.3 is a lovely motor. I've had mine since 2018 and it's done just over 50k on the clock, at least 20k of which were done on open road with very good fuel economy.
    Is it more expensive to maintain, does it have more mechanical issues, more expensive to manufacture? I'd love to know.
    Exactly the reason for this thread...
    Seems elsewhere Nissan kept the 2.3!! Thus the only logical conclusion is that they must know something about longetivity given our conditions and low quality fuel...
    After some more research, I'm beginning to doubt my own statement about pricing - the more affordable models seems to be very low spec!!
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    A friend of mine who works at Nissan says its a brand new 2.5 not the YD25 like in the older Navara
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Quote Originally Posted by FWM View Post
    A friend of mine who works at Nissan says its a brand new 2.5 not the YD25 like in the older Navara
    According to News24's motoring section it's the old engine
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    According to News24's motoring section it's the old engine
    You're right. Its the YD25.
    I will go and take one for a drive sometime this week.
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    What I like is that the cheapest 4x4 DC is R552k. Seems reasonable and that suits me fine as I am not a gadget person and I prefer low spec and relative good performance from the engine.

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    last week at Motus - Tygervalley I looked at one after collecting my service kit for my d40.

    Asked the salesman what engine is in it, YD25 or zooped/bored 2.3? He said yd as in last/spain spec 140kw. He mentioned some complaints about the 2.3 noisy They had to work harder to get to power output - thus making it noisier?.

    Better insulation and utilizing something that worked. Thus making it a old new navara.? I still like the looks

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    I have spoken to a sale man here in Roodepoort Gauteng. He said the the 2.5 engine is a more reliable engine as the 2.3

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Quote Originally Posted by DeonH View Post
    I have spoken to a sale man here in Roodepoort Gauteng. He said the the 2.5 engine is a more reliable engine as the 2.3
    In the beginning of my purchase I had a few oil leak issues with the d23 - this has been sorted and the engine has been trouble free since.

    On the open road, I find that it has enough power to overtake quickly and if you are not careful, it can do 170kph easily (and still go to 194kph), but it lacks low down grunt.

    I am not a huge fan of the new look Navara with the yd25, but its not ugly either. I am however keeping one eye on the new d-max as an alternative next year.
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Took the Auto LE D/Cab 4x2 for a test drive.

    It's smooth (gearbox & motor), very comfortable, big & bold & solid, extremely well equipped, and at 606k nowadays, I can't see better value in our bakkie market!!

    I have never owned a Nissan nor aspired to owning one, but this one has got me thinking...
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Any more info or clarity re the motor?
    Cant wait to see and feel one myself.

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Nice Vehicle, there's a Nissan next to me.

    Pricing seems VERY good, from what I read on this Thread.

    I think that base 4x4 DC at just over 500k in manual would be a hell of a good buy.

    The new Navara Sales should pick up quite a bit I think, with a wider spread of choices, and Pricing doesnt seem THAT way off from the outgoing Hardbody models. Those "Plathonde" bakkies also look quite nice, must say.

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    I saw one on the road this morning for the first time and it looked quite nice in the metallic grey.

    Will be keeping my 2020 D23 though.

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Die plaaslike Nissan het die nuwe een in die vertoon venster en het hom nog net van ver gesien. My D23 moet binnekort ingaan vir sy 60k diens en glo die verkoopsman gaan my tackle en nader sleep. Snaak ekt nog nie een op die pad gesien nie.

    As ek die kans gegun word sal ek hom gaan ry, maar dis dit. Die plan is om myne te ry tot net voor die 6j om is...
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Quote Originally Posted by R.O.B View Post
    Any more info or clarity re the motor?
    Cant wait to see and feel one myself.
    Apparently it is the older 2.5 motor indeed, cause Nissan found it to be more reliable under Africa conditions and Diesel - a move which makes sense to me!! I'm not a fan of the current trend of smaĺler motors with more turbos and high tech stuff..
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Quote Originally Posted by Petri Oosthuizen View Post
    Nice Vehicle, there's a Nissan next to me.

    Pricing seems VERY good, from what I read on this Thread.

    I think that base 4x4 DC at just over 500k in manual would be a hell of a good buy.

    The new Navara Sales should pick up quite a bit I think, with a wider spread of choices, and Pricing doesnt seem THAT way off from the outgoing Hardbody models. Those "Plathonde" bakkies also look quite nice, must say.
    So halfuur terug gou hier langsaan gaan tyres skop.

    Mooi bakkie, ek like hom. Bietjie baie chroom binne vir my liking, maar dis dalk net ek. Maar lyk en voel solid en mooi gebou.

    Daai "Base" met die staalwiele is ook nice, daar was 'n 4x2 auto daar........sal graag met die manual wil spin vat. Hys maar kaalgat, maar persoonlik like ek dit nogal.

    Pryse klink ook redelik goed dink ek, as jy sien wat ander (Jap) DC 4x4's kos.

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Best looking bakkie on the market IMO but have they strengthened the chassis??
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Regards the reason for changing to the 2.5l diesel. As I understand it, Nissan want to export to other African countries.

    Is it not a matter of a cheaper engine, with maybe emissions that would not be allowed in first world countries and which is more suitable for African conditions (bad diesel etc)? Just speculation, but I think that is most probably the reasons.

    I hope that this venture is a success and we get better competition in the bakkie market. For one to drive down prices of especially Toyota en Isuzu.

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