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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    The reasons for moving back to older technology may make sense from the manufacturer's perspective. My interest here relates to the impact on your "investment" from a customer perspective.
    How does this impact on the availability of engine parts, or serviceability and skills of technical staff, let alone how it affects resell value.
    I bet you the first thing Nissan will tell you if you want to trade in your 2.3 is "Ag that's a pity, cause the 2.5 is the more popular model".
    The point here is I took the plunge (at significant cost to me personally) because of my desire to get the latest and greatest, just to be told "Sorry the older tech is actually better".
    Sort of irks me a little.

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Ek sien daar is 'n enkel kajuit met 'n 2.5 petrol engine (QR25DE). 118kw. 6 spoed. R311 000.

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Quote Originally Posted by KobusDJ View Post
    Ek sien daar is 'n enkel kajuit met 'n 2.5 petrol engine (QR25DE). 118kw. 6 spoed. R311 000.

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    Nogal 'n BAIE mooi bakkie vir 'n Plathond......dink hy sal lekker verkoop.

    Om terug te kom na daai "Base" 4x4 DC Nissan teen R 520000 (+-).......ek het so bietjie rond geshop, ook nou nie SO ###### bargain nie, daar is ander Jap alternatives waarna ek eerder ook sou kyk (my opinie). Maar die is 'n Nissan Thread.

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    I test drove the new 2.5 dc auto 4x4 for R677000. Things I noticed. A lot of tech and gadgets including a lot of safety tech. Around town a really smooth ride with a brilliant auto box. But something that bothered me was on the open road the auto box revs up to the red line of 4500rpm before it shifts, I was always taught that a diesel shouldn't rev to high. Any thoughts on this high revving engine regarding reliability and fuel consumption?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willem81 View Post
    I test drove the new 2.5 dc auto 4x4 for R677000. Things I noticed. A lot of tech and gadgets including a lot of safety tech. Around town a really smooth ride with a brilliant auto box. But something that bothered me was on the open road the auto box revs up to the red line of 4500rpm before it shifts, I was always taught that a diesel shouldn't rev to high. Any thoughts on this high revving engine regarding reliability and fuel consumption?
    In normal conditions you'll never get to limit the rev counter. You had to really push it, and why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1965Landy View Post
    In normal conditions you'll never get to limit the rev counter. You had to really push it, and why?
    I was driving in normal drive mode and it kept shifting on the red line, once I was going up a steep hill but the other times I didn't see any reason for it to shift on the red line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willem81 View Post
    I was driving in normal drive mode and it kept shifting on the red line, once I was going up a steep hill but the other times I didn't see any reason for it to shift on the red line.
    This is not normal. What did the dealer say about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willem81 View Post
    I test drove the new 2.5 dc auto 4x4 for R677000. Things I noticed. A lot of tech and gadgets including a lot of safety tech. Around town a really smooth ride with a brilliant auto box. But something that bothered me was on the open road the auto box revs up to the red line of 4500rpm before it shifts, I was always taught that a diesel shouldn't rev to high. Any thoughts on this high revving engine regarding reliability and fuel consumption?
    I testdrove the same spec Navara - it only shifts at the redline if you "floor" it and keep it planted. Normal to mid throttle it shifrs much lower in the rev range... Normal auto behaviour...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ha-Ka View Post
    I testdrove the same spec Navara - it only shifts at the redline if you "floor" it and keep it planted. Normal to mid throttle it shifrs much lower in the rev range... Normal auto behaviour...
    I specifically did the test drive on my daily commute drive, it is a really busy road where you have to pass other traffic the whole time, so you pass, brake and accelerate again to pass the next vehicle. So that would explain why it was in the red line then because you have to push to pass the whole time.
    But like I said it is an absolutely brilliant vehicle to drive. And I am definitely considering buying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willem81 View Post
    I test drove the new 2.5 dc auto 4x4 for R677000. Things I noticed. A lot of tech and gadgets including a lot of safety tech. Around town a really smooth ride with a brilliant auto box. But something that bothered me was on the open road the auto box revs up to the red line of 4500rpm before it shifts, I was always taught that a diesel shouldn't rev to high. Any thoughts on this high revving engine regarding reliability and fuel consumption?
    Quote Originally Posted by Willem81 View Post
    I was driving in normal drive mode and it kept shifting on the red line, once I was going up a steep hill but the other times I didn't see any reason for it to shift on the red line.
    Quote Originally Posted by Willem81 View Post
    I specifically did the test drive on my daily commute drive, it is a really busy road where you have to pass other traffic the whole time, so you pass, brake and accelerate again to pass the next vehicle. So that would explain why it was in the red line then because you have to push to pass the whole time.
    But like I said it is an absolutely brilliant vehicle to drive. And I am definitely considering buying it.

    Why would you not want it to go to the red line if you are flooring it?

    And if you were flooring it to over take, why are you asking the question, about it going onto the red line?
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtshark View Post
    Best looking bakkie on the market IMO but have they strengthened the chassis??
    I will still not tow a caravan with it.

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    Some people's bias and ignorance is quite scary..
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    IF I consider it, it will be the 4x4 LE manual.

    I had a look at the specs last night and was quite impressed. The 2.5 motor should have more low down grunt than the 2.3 motor.

    As for towing, the progressive coil and raised rear should make a world of difference to the current setup when towing.

    Its well priced too. 670k for the LE manual is not bad either.

    The D23 LE version had 17inch wheel if I am not mistaken. The new model has 18 inch wheels which I think is a good move.

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacquesnaude View Post
    I will still not tow a caravan with it.
    Why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    IF I consider it, it will be the 4x4 LE manual.

    I had a look at the specs last night and was quite impressed. The 2.5 motor should have more low down grunt than the 2.3 motor.

    As for towing, the progressive coil and raised rear should make a world of difference to the current setup when towing.

    Its well priced too. 670k for the LE manual is not bad either.

    The D23 LE version had 17inch wheel if I am not mistaken.
    The new model has 18 inch wheels which I think is a good move.

    Aijaijai - Nissan is making it difficult to ignore the new Navara...

    Why do you say that?
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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Just to add to my previous post:

    The D23 LE version comes with 18inch wheels as standard, so too the new model.

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    Just to add to my previous post:

    The D23 LE version comes with 18inch wheels as standard, so too the new model.
    I was wondering why you would prefer 18" wheels
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    I was wondering why you would prefer 18" wheels
    90% of the time I use my D23 on tar.

    The 18inch wheel drives better on tar in my opinion.

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    If you are a tallish person and your hunting / fishing mates are tallish people this bakkie is NOT for you. Not enough leg space for rear passengers. Maybe for a family with small children.
    old habits dies with their owners

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    Default Re: The "New" Navara...

    Quote Originally Posted by 35S View Post
    If you are a tallish person and your hunting / fishing mates are tallish people this bakkie is NOT for you. Not enough leg space for rear passengers. Maybe for a family with small children.
    How is the space compared to other double cab bakkies?
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