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    Default Pajero 3.2 LWB questions

    I never thought I'd post in the Mitsu section on my own behalf but here goes!

    My BIL has bought a new Ranger and is changing his lifestyle a bit. He is thinking of selling his 2015 Pajero 3.2 LWB with about 170000km on the clock.

    First question. What is a reasonable price to pay and secondly, what are the known problems on these vehicles?

    Objective answers if possible please
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    Default Re: Pajero 3.2 LWB questions

    The cam chain guide between the 2 cams.
    The rear suspension bushes.
    The multitude op vacume pipes in thee engine bay.
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    Default Re: Pajero 3.2 LWB questions

    Those engines are notoriously reliable.
    My SWB has 430 000 kms and runs like a new one.

    You can however look out for
    • Oil pressure sensor leaking oil. If not replaced yet, do so, it is cheap.
    • Timing chain guide wearing. Inspect and replace if necessary.

    They love Caltex Delo400 oil every 500km.

    Actually, they are boring to an extent.

    Search the forum.

    Price to pay?
    It's family - pay as little as possible.
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    Default Re: Pajero 3.2 LWB questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Henris View Post
    The cam chain guide between the 2 cams.
    The rear suspension bushes.
    The multitude op vacume pipes in thee engine bay.
    Barring the bushes these are Gen 3 problems.

    The cam chain guide was upgraded to a steel guide early in the Gen 4 (2007).
    In the common rail Gen 4 the vacuum pipes are not controlling engine idle/shutoff etc like they were in the Gen 3.

    The bushes are normally wearing. Never had any problems on our Gen 3's (x2) and my Gen 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4ePajero View Post

    You can however look out for
    • Oil pressure sensor leaking oil. If not replaced yet, do so, it is cheap


    Oom is this not also a gen 3 thing?
    I've not heard of it on the Gen 4 at all.

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    The best way to get a reasonable price (so that both sides Ďwiní) is to see what WeBuyCars will offer and then add a few grand.

    Itís family after all, you donít want to shaft your family with a lowball offer now do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChasingSunsets View Post
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    Oom is this not also a gen 3 thing?
    I've not heard of it on the Gen 4 at all.
    I have heard of sensors on Gen4s leaking - no harm to check.
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    To the business end.

    Been shopping for a new (2nd hand) Gen 4 for the old man. He bought a new sport but I am now very familiar with where the prices sit.

    If its the facelift and not a late registered 2015 (the facelift has day time running lights and the rear diff came back standard) then you can easily ask around R420k for it. You will probably get closer to R400k.

    Faults - almost nothing and no known common recurring issue. The common-rail (unlike the Gen 3 mechanical pump) does not give diesel pump issues after high mileage. Injector issues are also rare.

    The most common faults are actually related to simple problems and none are showstoppers.

    Things like a faulty/dirty MAF (reduced power, clean or new part for R3k), blocked MAP sensor or sensor pipe (quick fix, clean the pipe or a new MAP costs R350 from Master Parts and take 2 min to change), the last one is the SCV which acts up after a while (it regulates fuel pressure to the rail and costs around R4k to replace, 15 min job).

    Over and above normal maintenance I've changed diff bushes, the crankshaft damper (updated in 2010 models so not and issue), 1 wheel bearing, had the intake manifold cleaned on my BK (2008) and its on 280k km, most of it hard and fully loaded for touring.

    None of these things will be acting up on a 2015 Gen 4 with 170k km on it.

    Just like most manufacturers, people think the autoboxes are filled for life. They are not and on the 2015 Gen 4's the oil change interval is 80k km.

    Good luck with the sale. Who knows two weeks earlier and my dad may have bought it
    Last edited by ChasingSunsets; 2021/06/16 at 07:22 PM. Reason: price est a bit high for mileage

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    Price wise I would reckon R380k to R450k at a dealer, depending on the mileage, so privately I reckon R340k to R360k. But since it is family more discount is in order

    2015 is fairly new and 170k km is not high. It shouldn't have any of the real wear and tear problems mentioned above. What I would check though is that it had all its services including the full gearbox service as well as the front, centre and rear diff oil changes.
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    Ah I did not realize you may be considering it for yourself?

    In that case Tom is probably more in line price wise. I am probably a bit high with my estimate for the mileage. For example here is a 2015 facelift exceed with 210k km for R350k. https://www.autotrader.co.za/car-for...o/3.2/25766256

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom13 View Post
    Price wise I would reckon R380k to R450k at a dealer, depending on the mileage, so privately I reckon R340k to R360k. But since it is family more discount is in order

    2015 is fairly new and 170k km is not high. It shouldn't have any of the real wear and tear problems mentioned above. What I would check though is that it had all its services including the full gearbox service as well as the front, centre and rear diff oil changes.
    Why would a deal with family result in more discount?

    Only asking because the buyer now knows exactly where the vehicle is coming from and has complete peace of mind and therefore should be happy to pay a little more.

    I have always wondered why we would want to pay less for something if we know the owner, thatís not lekker and the current owner should just sell it to someone else then if he/she can get more.

    Just my opinion.

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    That was a TIC comment. You are 100% correct. If the family member had the car from new it is a big advantage. Although I have family members where I would ask for additional discount due to a complete lack of mechanical sympathy.
    Quote Originally Posted by KurtG View Post
    Why would a deal with family result in more discount?

    Only asking because the buyer now knows exactly where the vehicle is coming from and has complete peace of mind and therefore should be happy to pay a little more.

    I have always wondered why we would want to pay less for something if we know the owner, thatís not lekker and the current owner should just sell it to someone else then if he/she can get more.

    Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom13 View Post
    That was a TIC comment. You are 100% correct. If the family member had the car from new it is a big advantage. Although I have family members where I would ask for additional discount due to a complete lack of mechanical sympathy.
    Ha ha ha, then thereís that . You can choose your friends, but you canít choose your family

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    Default Re: Pajero 3.2 LWB questions

    There are 3 types of prices. Normal. Diacount and family price

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    Thanks guys. Interesting feedback! For sure a passionate bunch the Mitsu guys!
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    Default Re: Pajero 3.2 LWB questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    I never thought I'd post in the Mitsu section on my own behalf but here goes!

    My BIL has bought a new Ranger and is changing his lifestyle a bit. He is thinking of selling his 2015 Pajero 3.2 LWB with about 170000km on the clock.

    First question. What is a reasonable price to pay and secondly, what are the known problems on these vehicles?

    Objective answers if possible please
    Ok I had my facts wrong. It is a 2011 model with 189000 km on the clock. Asking price is R270 000. My situation has changed in the mean time, a Patrol interfered!

    But any idea on whether it's a reasonable deal?
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    Default Re: Pajero 3.2 LWB questions

    Finally an answer to "Have you considered a 2nd hand Pajero"
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    Default Re: Pajero 3.2 LWB questions

    My son bought a 2010 with 200k on the clock for R200k. Excellent condition at a dealer with full service history. I will say no, too much, but low km cars are increasing in R value I think.

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    Default Re: Pajero 3.2 LWB questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    Ok I had my facts wrong. It is a 2011 model with 189000 km on the clock. Asking price is R270 000. My situation has changed in the mean time, a Patrol interfered!

    But any idea on whether it's a reasonable deal?
    I reckon it is a great deal.

    You will be paying at least R350k for a Prado of similar age with 250k+ on the clock. You will have more power and torque and the same reliability for a lot less mula!
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