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    Just trying to find out about Africanis dogs - temperament, good with kids, protective of property, owner etc.
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    We have one.
    she stands just slightly higher than my knee, and 18kgs.
    the most soft and caring dog I’ve ever had (and we have a staffie as well, who I initially thought was the softest and most caring!).
    Amazing with our kids. She has to be near them at all times, and insists on sleeping on our sons bed with him (or wherever else he falls asleep). She gets prodded and poked, climbed on, pushed, food taken out her mouth etc. I only once saw her get irritated with a child and that was after incessant harassing and tail pulling, but all she did was run away and hide.

    shes never been to a vet, will eat anything that’s put infront of her, and can run like the absolute wind!

    edit: in terms of protective of owner and property, I dunno. She will bark a stranger that comes in until I tell her to stop, but I’m not sure if she’d go any further than that. I think she’s too soft.

    My in-laws have what I think is also an africanus - he has 98% looks and charactertics if our girl, but there is some other dog in him too just not sure what. Anyway, he stands at my hip. An absolute horse of a dog. I reckon he’d protect that property easy.
    He’s also amazing with the kids, his size just lets him down though, making him unintentionally rough with the kids - I sniff on the face is a big bump, and a ‘Gentle’ brush past the kid sends the child flying. Poor guy.
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    Default Re: Africanis dog breed - anyone own one?

    Thanks.
    would she be aggressive toward intruders or anyone threatening the family?

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    I had one. A male called Puncture.
    Acquired him as a small puppy off an old man in a small village in northeast Botswana in the mid-80s.
    I lived in a caravan in the bush at the time, so Puncture grew up wild. He would disappear every late afternoon for hours and come back with a catch or a rotten carcass of some description. I made sure his "injections" were up to date, because I knew I was going to return to SA at some point. He never got sick, or even injured, in spite if the rough life he lived.
    Only when him and I moved to Barberton and settled in a town and I started a family, did his "soft and caring" nature show through. He was very gentle with people and kids and would sit on my lap (in spite of his size) whenever he could. I think his growing up wild and without fences meant that I couldn't keep him in a yard and he couldn't stand other dogs. I'm sure if he had grown up in a town, he would have been the perfect pet.
    He eventually settled down with old age and even put on some weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suikersteen View Post
    Thanks.
    would she be aggressive toward intruders or anyone threatening the family?
    sorry Graham, missed that part of your reply. Just saw u mentioned that.

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    My son has one. Very good with other dogs. Very obedient and easy to train to whistle or hand signals. Unfortunately only good as an intruder alarm to call the other dogs as it has a very big yellow streak and if attacked will disappear for a long time. He has never had a human attack the dog though but doubts there will be much difference. My son uses it to follow spoor and smells as it is very good at that.
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    Now that I think of it, she is a bit of a scaredy cat. I think her barks at strangers are more out of being scared of them than anything else.
    the one night I came home in the dark and both her and the staffie didn’t hear the car come in, but only me opening the garden gate. They both came storming out barking at me, I roared at them and stomped towards them, the staffie stood his ground, she disappeared at the speed of light back into the house and was shaking like a leaf, haha. Shame. She was a rescue pup though, and had a hard first month of life, so I think she is a bit jaded. thunder makes her very scared too.
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    Very difficult to generalise -especially with a very broadly defined breed such as Africanis -as to general characteristics.

    Best -with any dog -is to 'Meet the parents' if at all possible, and spend some time with them, and the whole litter, if you can.

    You can never be guaranteed that a dog will turn into, well....a good dog, but the more attention you put into selection, and then bonding, socialising and training, the more you will be able to mould the character of the dog.

    It's a lot of work and commitment to own/train a dog, but rewards are priceless once you establish a bond.
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    My wife does trail running (with other women) was wanting to get her a running dog for protection.
    Local SPCA has Africanis pups, was just considering that because I believe they’re very good runners.
    our current dog is just too small to do distances and offer any protection.
    But we’d need a dog with some aggression towards threats, maybe the Africanis isn’t hardwired that way. Sounds like a great dog though.

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    You might want to read up on the real Africanis / Nguni dog.
    www.africanis.co.za

    There is a FB group, The AfriCanis society of South Africa.

    Unfortunately a lot of mix breed dogs are being labelled as AfriCanis, even by SPCAs and other shelters, because it's so "in" to have an AfriCanis rather than some mix breed.

    AfriCanis come in various sizes, shapes, coats and colours. Usually you can not distinguish between an AfriCanis and mix breed dogs with certainty by looks only.

    Our 2 AfriCanis are very protective. One night, when I wasn't at home, someone was on the property. The dogs, who live in the house with us, barked very angry and when my wife let them out, the young male chased the intruder off the property, while the bitch stayed behind and made sure my wife doesn't go outside.

    They seem to be a very good judge of character, too. People whom they trust easily are usually honest, decent people. People whom they don't trust often turn out to be dishonest and of not so nice character.

    It is really easy to make an AfriCanis understand what is his (e.g. toys) and what isn't (e.g. shoes, socks, etc).
    Out of all the dogs we had so far, they are the least destructive in the garden.

    Lots of AfriCanis have been cross bread with Greyhounds, which makes them larger and intensifies the hunting instinct, which is relatively low in most AfriCanis.

    Great dogs, for us coming from Boerboels, they seem light (around 18-25kg). If you are looking for a protective dog, get 2 or 3 AfriCanis, they work great together. They might not take on an intruder from the front, but rather come from behind and jump in their neck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suikersteen View Post
    My wife does trail running (with other women) was wanting to get her a running dog for protection.
    Local SPCA has Africanis pups, was just considering that because I believe they’re very good runners.
    our current dog is just too small to do distances and offer any protection.
    But we’d need a dog with some aggression towards threats, maybe the Africanis isn’t hardwired that way. Sounds like a great dog though.
    Those are most probably NOT Africanis! Maybe Africanis mix. Might still turn out ot be very good dogs though.

    Real AfriCanis would be able to give some sort of protection, like any other dog of that size. They do have enormous endurance, so for the running part they would be well suited. As I said earlier, get 2 or 3 of them and they would work extremely well as a team.
    Alternatively look for a Ridgeack. They are a bit larger and heavier on average and need quite a bit of exercise, too. That might actually bee an ideal dog for your purpose.

    Whatever you decide on, makes sure you don't get a dog (breed) with a short muzzle, like Staffies, Boerboels, Boxer, etc. They tend to overheat more easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suikersteen View Post
    My wife does trail running (with other women) was wanting to get her a running dog for protection.
    Local SPCA has Africanis pups, was just considering that because I believe they’re very good runners.
    our current dog is just too small to do distances and offer any protection.
    But we’d need a dog with some aggression towards threats, maybe the Africanis isn’t hardwired that way. Sounds like a great dog though.
    It’s purely my opinion, but I think any attacker would be a lot more afraid of another type of breed than the africanus unfortunately. Workers etc who have to enter our yard feel nothing when our africanus is around, but if the staffie is standing there too then it’s a different ball game and we’re requested to move the dogs.

    such a pity cos this africanus can just run and run and run. I take them on my bicycle, and always have to drop the staffie off and then go for a full on sprint for as long as I can last on the bicycle with her. Man they can run!

    when the staffie was younger my wife would go for runs in the morning and take him with her. I never had to worry about her out there as the staffie made people take a WIDE berth around them. Back then he could do 5kms quite easy.

    edit: just saw the previous post - that is true. The staffie does overheat quite easily. In his younger days 5kms was the most he could do. They just can’t get enough oxygen in
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    One of my best buddies a has two.

    We had to babysit them for two months. Old dogs.

    Softest creatures on earth. Never get ill.

    They have mild bodies. But a willing heart.

    They will do what they absolutely can to buy you time with indruders.
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    People want to recognise our indigenous dogs as a certain type, put them in a “africanis” box, I think they are missing the point. Take my Ridgeback for instance, originally the “african lion” dog renowned for a brave temperament and extreme endurance. Ours are scared of the vervet monkeys, suffers chronic ear infections in the rainy season and the underside of the paws doesn’t cope well with prolonged running on paved and gravelled surfaces. This is a result of generations upon generations of selective breading by registered breeders selecting on physical characteristics rather than hunting lion. When you are looking for an African dog get it from Africans where their selective breeding is cruel but effective. Survival of not only the fittest but also the cleverest. In those community’s taking a sick dog to the vet just doesn’t happen. When they disobey like killing chickens, sheep or kids their life will have a certain abrupt end. They are generally socially very well adapted and are a good choice when there is kids and other animals in the family.

    They are easy to recognise from just the common crossbreed, every rural village I have spent time in and around have similar looking dogs from Mozambique ,Swaziland, Transkei, Namibia and Botswana. On a recent MTB stage race in Morgan bay one particular dog slept on the doormat in front of our tent for three nights just because my wife would bring her the dinner leftovers.

    The dog on the left just showed up at my work premises three years ago and never left. At the time he was still a pup of about 6 months old. He never leaves my side, he loves the kids and will not hesitate to protect his clan as if his life depends on it. He visits the vet once a year for his rabies shot - thats it

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    People want to recognise our indigenous dogs as a certain type, put them in a “africanis” box, I think they are missing the point. Take my Ridgeback for instance, originally the “african lion” dog renowned for a brave temperament and extreme endurance. Ours are scared of the vervet monkeys, suffers chronic ear infections in the rainy season and the underside of the paws doesn’t cope well with prolonged running on paved and gravelled surfaces. This is a result of generations upon generations of selective breading by registered breeders selecting on physical characteristics rather than hunting lion. When you are looking for an African dog get it from Africans where their selective breeding is cruel but effective. Survival of not only the fittest but also the cleverest. In those community’s taking a sick dog to the vet just doesn’t happen. When they disobey like killing chickens, sheep or kids their life will have a certain abrupt end. They are generally socially very well adapted and are a good choice when there is kids and other animals in the family.

    They are easy to recognise from just the common crossbreed, every rural village I have spent time in and around have similar looking dogs from Mozambique ,Swaziland, Transkei, Namibia and Botswana. On a recent MTB stage race in Morgan bay one particular dog slept on the doormat in front of our tent for three nights just because my wife would bring her the dinner leftovers.

    The dog on the left just showed up at my work premises three years ago and never left. At the time he was still a pup of about 6 months old. He never leaves my side, he loves the kids and will not hesitate to protect his clan as if his life depends on it. He visits the vet once a year for his rabies shot - thats it
    Good points you raise. However I don't agree that they are easily recognizable. There are so many different shapes of AfriCanis, some do look like a common crossbreed.
    The ones you find in Swaziland are a lot larger with wider frame and head and longer coat than Africanis from other parts of Southern Africa. Go further north and they look even more different.

    For a decent Africanis I wouldn't go to the SPCA, as they usually don't know much about a dog's ancestry. Some SPCAs and shelters call every rescue that doesn't look too much like Boerboel, Pitbull, Staffie or Labrador, Africanis so it's easier to find a home for the dog.
    I would start off by reading up on that Landrace (technically not a breed) and speak to Edith Gallant from africanis.co.za We got our 2 from her and she regularly undertakes trips into rural areas to find new dogs to breed with.

    Point of the Africanis is, as Basterbrak has said, they come from a lineage of near natural selection. There are some character streaks, which true Africanis in general portray. A true Africanis also doesn't have any western breeds in it's ancestry. They originate from ancient dogs that were never bread according to western / modern breed standards. That is what makes them typically very healthy and a lot more resistant to parasites than any dog breed.
    There are mix breed dogs, even in villages. Usually they don't do very well and suffer from parasites, while the true Africanis doesn't.
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    Good points you raise. However I don't agree that they are easily recognizable. There are so many different shapes of AfriCanis, some do look like a common crossbreed.
    The ones you find in Swaziland are a lot larger with wider frame and head and longer coat than Africanis from other parts of Southern Africa. Go further north and they look even more different.

    For a decent Africanis I wouldn't go to the SPCA, as they usually don't know much about a dog's ancestry. Some SPCAs and shelters call every rescue that doesn't look too much like Boerboel, Pitbull, Staffie or Labrador, Africanis so it's easier to find a home for the dog.
    I would start off by reading up on that Landrace (technically not a breed) and speak to Edith Gallant from africanis.co.za We got our 2 from her and she regularly undertakes trips into rural areas to find new dogs to breed with.

    Point of the Africanis is, as Basterbrak has said, they come from a lineage of near natural selection. There are some character streaks, which true Africanis in general portray. A true Africanis also doesn't have any western breeds in it's ancestry. They originate from ancient dogs that were never bread according to western / modern breed standards. That is what makes them typically very healthy and a lot more resistant to parasites than any dog breed.
    There are mix breed dogs, even in villages. Usually they don't do very well and suffer from parasites, while the true Africanis doesn't.

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    A few years ago I didn't know a thing about the AfriCanis breed, until we got a puppy that resembled it.

    The Vet told us about the breed and we read more about them as it was the first time we heard about it.

    Now he is grown and loves the kids, barks at anything strange at the front gate, shows absolutely no aggression and is very playful, loves all the attention the kids gives him. When my daughter was a bit younger, he use to walk next to her almost guiding and protecting her.

    The AfriCanis breed as per AfriCanis.co.za website (first image), and ours playing in the ocean do have some sort of resemblance. Whether ours is a cross breed or AfriCanis I am not sure, but we love him too bits.
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    So Africanis is just a fancy Latin term for a pavement special?
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    I have 2 dogs, meaning dogs. They are from a farm. The one definitely has africanis in her. She is loyal, friendly, protective, and has taken to my 7 month old daughter like a fly to shyte. They are wonderful dogs. Click image for larger version. 

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    This is a result of generations upon generations of selective breading by registered breeders selecting on physical characteristics rather than hunting lion.
    I find this unfortunately with a lot of pure breeds, the characteristics that the breed was bred for falls by the wayside.

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