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    Default Re: Double Cabs - How Capable is Capable??

    Quote Originally Posted by 4ePajero View Post
    Huh?

    You burned a DT280, it did not burn you!
    Correct. Just because I know it was my young, dumb, 19 year old fault, that doesn't erase the emotional scarring

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    Quote Originally Posted by cainslie View Post
    Me too. I just got burned with a '97 280DT D/C many years ago and need to pluck up courage to try the brand again.

    I absolutely loved that car, but it cost me a fortune. Entirely my fault, I did almost zero maintenance and didn't treat it well. I've grown up since then.
    My mate had a old non turbo donkey, 80kmph was great and 100kmph was only possible with a downhill and breeze, so I always associated them with that.

    My father in law has a Frontier and swears by it. It's pretty bullet proof.

    Watching the 4wd 24/7 with the new Isuzu makes me want one so bad.

    I own a Ranger and would not buy the new ones, also not a big fan of the new Hilux. I feel like they have all become mall crawlers.

    At Matroosberg last winter we passed lots of new Amaraoks, Hiluxes and Rangers on way to top. They literally had to move to side to let us pass and then wait for the mud ice to melt before joining us at the top. The Amaraok couldnt drop tyre pressures enough cos of low profiles.

    New Bakkies are built to look pretty, most will never see gravel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cainslie View Post
    100%

    I would be happy to own almost any of them, I'm just happier to own a Hilux because I catch myself looking at it every now and then, saying "jussie, that's a nice looking car"

    The old Triton looked horrible, the new one looks nice, particularly with a custom canopy. Dmax is a legend. Not a massive Nav fan.

    The Amarok, well, I'd rather poo in my hands and clap.
    That's nothing against the owners though, it's just how it makes me feel.
    But what would you chose if you were looking for a bakkie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWM View Post
    But what would you chose if you were looking for a bakkie?
    Hahaha. You funny guy.

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    There are so many tests and comparisons on youtube, and the ones I've seen choose a different winner every time. I've seen recent ones where the new Isuzu wins, but in another the new Isuzu, Mazda and Triton come last. And there are a couple where the Triton win, where Hilux win etc..

    In my opinion, it all comes down to personal taste again. Not one bakkie is better than all the others in every single department. Each has it's own strengths and weaknesses, and people choose the ones that suite their needs best.
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    Default Re: Double Cabs - How Capable is Capable??

    Isuzu.
    The whole drivetrain has been proven, over and over again.
    The softest drive of all the 4x4 dc's
    Fuel economy.
    More capable offroad, than what its driver thinks it is.
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    Default Re: Double Cabs - How Capable is Capable??

    Despite Petri's idialistic description of the subject of this thread, it did not take long for it to change into
    "Mine is bigger than yours"
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    Quote Originally Posted by revred View Post
    Strangely no-one mentioned the Navara... Hope the new one puts confidence back in the brand. The Pro 4X does look good.
    Want daar is nog nie een van die nuwes te koop nie, en die d23 was n aborsie van n bakkie.
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    Does it have to be sold in SA?

    The elctric F150 seems to be a winner from what I have seen thus far...
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    Default Re: Double Cabs - How Capable is Capable??

    Quote Originally Posted by 4ePajero View Post
    Despite Petri's idialistic description of the subject of this thread, it did not take long for it to change into
    "Mine is bigger than yours"

    Indeed.
    And what I have experienced that in most instances, the vehicle is in any case much more capable than the driver.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Walnut View Post

    At Matroosberg last winter we passed lots of new Amaraoks, Hiluxes and Rangers on way to top. They literally had to move to side to let us pass and then wait for the mud ice to melt before joining us at the top.
    What were you driving, a tank?

    Please explain a bit more. I struggle to understand what you are trying to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    What were you driving, a tank?

    Please explain a bit more. I struggle to understand what you are trying to say.
    En ek ken matroosberg daar is maar min plekke waar karrre sommer kan aftrek dat n ander eem verby kan kom.op of af


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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    What were you driving, a tank?

    Please explain a bit more. I struggle to understand what you are trying to say.
    Not complicated. We got there early but not early enough and were in a que to get to the top. The reason for the que, a new Hilux was stuck on the side. We tried using maxtrax to get him traction but the mud was frozen solid and pure ice, so the track kept slipping.

    Also was a Amarok and few newer cars. What we noticed that the tyres couldn't be let down really low as they were to large, well the owners didn't want to let them down too low.

    In the end a bunch of cars moved out the way and we went up, second low and foot down. Was running 1.1 bar in my muds.

    Was the second and third vehicle at the top, had the place to ourself for around 45min before others started trickling in.

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    That little spot we were in ended up being packed. Around 20 cars in it. Was a nightmare coming down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hein100 View Post
    En ek ken matroosberg daar is maar min plekke waar karrre sommer kan aftrek dat n ander eem verby kan kom.op of af
    What's your point? Everyone was very accommodating and moved where possible. It was a tight squeeze in places. It was the long straight uphill, pretty much first one. It ends in a semi flat section with a hectic s bend after.

    Will look for photos, cos obviously if one person can't do it no-one can.
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    Here is us going up, we have already passed a few cars, and just around this corner is the Hilux.

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    This is the beggining of que:

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    This is my mate coming up after passing everyone, few spectators watching:

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    Crash that happened when a vehicle slid backwards. Didn't see it as was at top already.

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    The area we were parked in after a while:

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    Ek hou glad nie van al die driver aids nie Ek wil in beheer wees nie elektronika nie

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    Ek doen gereeld sneeu. Ek het n truuk uitgedink wat baie goed werk vir my. My navara kom daarmee elke keer baie verder as enige van die ander voertuie. Elke keer kan ek uit gaan, verder as enige van die “hardcore” voertuie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walnut View Post
    Not complicated. We got there early but not early enough and were in a que to get to the top. The reason for the que, a new Hilux was stuck on the side. We tried using maxtrax to get him traction but the mud was frozen solid and pure ice, so the track kept slipping.

    Also was a Amarok and few newer cars. What we noticed that the tyres couldn't be let down really low as they were to large, well the owners didn't want to let them down too low.

    In the end a bunch of cars moved out the way and we went up, second low and foot down. Was running 1.1 bar in my muds.

    Was the second and third vehicle at the top, had the place to ourself for around 45min before others started trickling in.

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    That little spot we were in ended up being packed. Around 20 cars in it. Was a nightmare coming down.


    So you have a modified bakkie with mud terrain tires on...

    How can you compare and say new vehicles with standard tires are worse in mud and snow?
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    Default Re: Double Cabs - How Capable is Capable??

    I'd say the new Isuzu with RDL and TC that stays active on front wheels, will be the most effective in the very tough stuff.
    The Triton with the Super Select setup is more "versatile" with the centre diff "permanent 4x4" option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoelfleRoux View Post
    I'd say the new Isuzu with RDL and TC that stays active on front wheels, will be the most effective in the very tough stuff.
    The Triton with the Super Select setup is more "versatile" with the centre diff "permanent 4x4" option.
    Well Roelf, have a look at this video and note that the Isuzu didn’t perform very well at all. I was surprised.

    https://youtu.be/wxy4jBnKMX4
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