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    Default Longevity of 2.8 model

    So I'm selling my 2017 Hilux 4x4 2.8 AT DC and moving over to a Fortuner. My bakkie doesn't fit in my garage (short 15-20cm) and I don't want my car/bakkie parked in the street in sunny SA. Also, I prefer the SUV over the bakkie for my current family setup.

    There's a lot of Fortuners in the R480k - R530k range with less than 90000km on the clock. To be honest though, these don't fit my budget and I'm hoping to pay no more than R450k.
    One particular vehicle has caught my attention. It's a TOYOTA FORTUNER 2.8GD-6 4X4 A/T with 140 000k's on the clock. Price advertised is R449k so I can probably still wheel-n-deal a bit but it's in the right range.

    This leads me to the title question - how's the longevity on these 2.8's? I know the D4D has proven to be a solid a reliable engine that easily gives you 300k+ kms. I sold my 2007 Fortuner with 250000km's and no real issues at all apart from replacing the clutch, once. Can the same be said of the 2.8 and the rest of the car?
    I'm willing to fork out the cash and I trust I'll be happy with the car, but I'm worried about what (might) lies ahead.

    Also, the D4D (I had a 3L a few years back) had a major service at 150k kms which included timing belt. Aforementioned 2016 fortuner is close to 150k so what kind of service are we looking at here? Pricing?
    Mechanically, vehicle checks out. Full service history with Toyota.

    I'm also posing these questions to the dealer so will be interesting to compare your opinions to their feedback

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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    My son is a Toyota master technician in a rural area and works almost exclusively on Hiluxes and Fortuner due to the high number in the area.. In his opinion these things give very little trouble.

    Give some more info on your Hilux. Kilos, mods and price. Thanks
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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    The 2.8 has a chain so you "skip" the major 150000km service.

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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    I know of a few with over 300000km (2.4 and 2.8), absolutely no issues, at least one 2.8 with over 400000km, also no issues. In my opinion the GD engines are excellent.

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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    My son is a Toyota master technician in a rural area and works almost exclusively on Hiluxes and Fortuner due to the high number in the area.. In his opinion these things give very little trouble.

    Give some more info on your Hilux. Kilos, mods and price. Thanks
    Thanks. This, (and the other comments so far) puts my mind a little more at ease.

    You can see the add for the Hilux on gumtree: https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...70910007439809

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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    Quote Originally Posted by Hennie84 View Post
    The 2.8 has a chain so you "skip" the major 150000km service.
    What, chain? Seriously? Is it that it is the first chain driven diesel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    What, chain? Seriously? Is it that it is the first chain driven diesel?
    I'm referring to the OP's first post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hennie84 View Post
    I'm referring to the OP's first post.
    Ah ok, I thought you said the 2.8 has a chain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    Ah ok, I thought you said the 2.8 has a chain.
    It does, the 3 D4D has a belt. The OP was asking about the 150000km service of the 2.8 and if it's also expensive, to which I replied it shouldn't be because of the timing chain.

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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    Quote Originally Posted by Hennie84 View Post
    It does, the 3 D4D has a belt. The OP was asking about the 150000km service of the 2.8 and if it's also expensive, to which I replied it shouldn't be because of the timing chain.
    Ok, I said in my post I did not know the 2.8 was chain, then said/asked that it must be the first chain driven diesel?

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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    Do you know if the 2.4 is also chain?
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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    Do you know if the 2.4 is also chain?
    2.4 and 2.8 is the same engine. 2.4 has a shorter stroke only
    Everything is a hammer.
    Unless it is a screw driver.

    Then it it a chisel.

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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    Quote Originally Posted by Uys View Post
    2.4 and 2.8 is the same engine. 2.4 has a shorter stroke only
    Net so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    Ok, I said in my post I did not know the 2.8 was chain, then said/asked that it must be the first chain driven diesel?

    Ok we're taking this off topic. I didn't understand your post at all, hence my response.

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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    Quote Originally Posted by Hennie84 View Post
    Ok we're taking this off topic. I didn't understand your post at all, hence my response.
    No probs. Chain is much cheaper to maintain than belt.
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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    I just bought one about 3-4 months ago and loving it so far. Also a 2.8 4x4.
    No issues with mine.

    I must say though, maybe I just got lucky, but I paid pretty much the same price as what you're saying in the opening post, and it was just less than 100k km's, and they threw in an extended warranty. This was from Toyota themselves (well, automark I guess.. Toyota certified pre-owned) So that price for 140k km's seems a little steep to me.

    I also just did my 110k service, and it only cost 2k. I wouldn't bother with a service plan, but a warranty is nice. Plan on keeping mine for the foreseeable future.
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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    Maintenance costs on the 2.4, reckon the 2.8 should be more or less the same.

    https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...ntenance-costs

    70000km service was R1800

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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    Globally Toyota spend plenty(possibly the most) on R&D and especially testing and then they have localised testing(which no one else was doing 10-15 years ago), this is what gives them an edge in reliability - apparently the 'test to break' testing at the Eston track is something of an eyeopener
    I think that because these motors have been around long enough you could say that any inherent major problem would/should have surfaced by now, I am yet to hear of a single major failure(I am sure there have been), I have heard of quite a few turbo pipes that have blown off and a diff that exploded but not even the injector issues that some early D4D's had - I would say that this motor will be as good if not better than the D4D......that said, the 150kw still has some way to go
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    Default Re: Longevity of 2.8 model

    Thanks for the recent comments. I've asked around a lot and it seems 140,000 odd is certainly not a lot for these motors at all, and your comments substantiate these claims.

    For anyone interested, contacted Toyota yesterday to get some quotes for above 100k services...

    100,000 = R3220
    110,000 = R1800
    120,000 = R5500 (every 40,000 is a "big" service apparently)
    130,000 = R3220
    140,000 = --- missed this one, was somewhere along R2700
    150,000 = R2400 (answers the question re: 150,000 being big or not)
    160,000 = R5600
    and that's where I stopped.

    Think it's safe to say an extended service plan isn't worth it.
    Will consider the extended warranty though. Just in case something unexpected gives way.

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