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    Quote Originally Posted by Bex View Post
    On our Namib trip we had 3 x 4.0 V6's in the group, my FJ , a Prado and a Fortuner both the Prado and Fortuner had some work done to improve performance, and I know they are the 175kw versions, but the FJ just seemed to have bucket loads of torque more over much more of the rev range than them.

    Does anyone have torque graphs to show the difference in these engine perhaps?
    I think the torque is very much the same on the Prado 150 & FJ with the dual VVT-i 1GR-FE.
    It's the lighter weight of the FJ that does make a difference, specially when driving in dune sand. The standard FJ tyre is a slightly higher profile over the Fortuner and Prado tyres, too.
    Maybe the FJ got a different gear ratio in the rear axle compared to the Prado 150?
    Remember, the Prado 120 has got the same single VVT-i engine as the Hilux and Fortuner do.
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    I think it was a Prado 120, was a 2005 .
    Last edited by Bex; 2021/06/18 at 11:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HugoNotte View Post
    I think the torque is very much the same on the Prado 150 & FJ with the dual VVT-i 1GR-FE.
    It's the lighter weight of the FJ that does make a difference, specially when driving in dune sand. The standard FJ tyre is a slightly higher profile over the Fortuner and Prado tyres, too.
    Maybe the FJ got a different gear ratio in the rear axle compared to the Prado 150?
    Remember, the Prado 120 has got the same single VVT-i engine as the Hilux and Fortuner do.
    Prado150 Diff Ratio 1:3.909
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    10 pages and only a blurry photo in the dark.

    Show us the FJ in the sunlight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IcePick88 View Post
    10 pages and only a blurry photo in the dark.

    Show us the FJ in the sunlight!
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    Here’s the Fire Engine
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    Here’s the Fire Engine
    Very nice!
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    Default Re: My FJ buying experience

    Nice, enjoy!
    Offroad already, the most I see is the beach or a building site
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    Default Re: My FJ buying experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Bex View Post
    On our Namib trip we had 3 x 4.0 V6's in the group, my FJ , a Prado and a Fortuner both the Prado and Fortuner had some work done to improve performance, and I know they are the 175kw versions, but the FJ just seemed to have bucket loads of torque more over much more of the rev range than them.

    Does anyone have torque graphs to show the difference in these engine perhaps?
    It is suppose to be like that. The 175kW versions have single VVT on the intake valves and variable intake.
    Dual VVT on the 201kW versions with a different head design and higher compression ratio 10.4 vs 10.

    On paper there is a 26kW and 10Nm difference. Up until 4000rpm they are about the same in power and torque after that the dual VVT engine comes alive. I am sure the the dual VVT engine will have a smoother power and torque delivery than the single VVT.

    One thing I have learned is you need to keep the 1GR close to the limiter if you want to make power.

    Jors you can find the power and torque comparisons here with curtesy from Agteros.

    https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...-V8-Conversion
    Last edited by grips; 2021/06/19 at 06:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grips View Post
    It is suppose to be like that. The 175kW versions have single VVT on the intake valves and variable intake.
    Dual VVT on the 201kW versions with a different head design and higher compression ratio 10.4 vs 10.

    On paper there is a 26kW and 10Nm difference. Up until 4000rpm they are about the same in power and torque after that the dual VVT engine comes alive. I am sure the the dual VVT engine will have a smoother power and torque delivery than the single VVT.

    One thing I have learned is you need to keep the 1GR close to the limiter if you want to make power.

    Jors you can find the power and torque comparisons here with curtesy from Agteros.

    https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...-V8-Conversion
    https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...00#post2938100

    Very interesting indeed
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    Here’s the Fire Engine

    Congrats on your FJ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Wheeler View Post
    Congrats on your FJ!

    Breedts Nek pass? Must have been a walk in the park with the FJ!
    Thanks Peter
    Yes was very easy

    Oh btw.. Ill be visiting soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by grips View Post
    It is suppose to be like that. The 175kW versions have single VVT on the intake valves and variable intake.
    Dual VVT on the 201kW versions with a different head design and higher compression ratio 10.4 vs 10.

    On paper there is a 26kW and 10Nm difference. Up until 4000rpm they are about the same in power and torque after that the dual VVT engine comes alive. I am sure the the dual VVT engine will have a smoother power and torque delivery than the single VVT.

    One thing I have learned is you need to keep the 1GR close to the limiter if you want to make power.

    Jors you can find the power and torque comparisons here with curtesy from Agteros.

    https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...-V8-Conversion
    Thanks, those graphs correlate exactly with what i felt on the dunes.
    The only thing you need to know with the FJ on dunes is that you need to get it up to 5000 rpm, once its there it does not stop.

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    My daughter loves it
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    Here’s the Fire Engine
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    She is a very sensible child

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    I hope you plan on putting some decent tyres on soon. My Touareg has got better looking wheels than that.

    Congrats again!!! I might be joining you guys soon on some 4x4 adventures
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nys View Post
    I hope you plan on putting some decent tyres on soon. My Touareg has got better looking wheels than that.

    Congrats again!!! I might be joining you guys soon on some 4x4 adventures
    That will be great
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    Just some follow-up comments after having the Fire Engine for a week..

    I have never been pointed at so much in my life.. (I have to get used to that)
    I last enjoyed driving so much when I drove a Defender..
    I'm very impressed with its clearances off road.
    I am torn about the tyres, as I really think in my application I will need a tougherer sidewall



    I am more than happy with its petrol consumption!!!

    At 7.8km/l for the first tank I am stoked!
    The Ranger with normal driving (I drove the FJ this week like a lunatic) I got 8.1km/l

    The only other negative is the capital outlay that is required to fill it

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    That is the only downside, I have the same issue with the Prado.

    You will see how the petrol price affects the bottom line - it's not really noticeable with a normal car, but when you have to fill 150 litres, you notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewald Posthumus View Post
    That is the only downside, I have the same issue with the Prado.

    You will see how the petrol price affects the bottom line - it's not really noticeable with a normal car, but when you have to fill 150 litres, you notice.

    lets not go there

    My 105 has a long range tank which replaced the standard aux tank. A total of 270l. I filled it the other day from empty after replacing the aux tank fuel pump. holy smokes!!! It was R 4500
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