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    Default Re: My FJ buying experience

    Congrats Andrew, what a nice review and initial thoughts on the vehicle.

    I can see one in my future, as soon as the kids are out of the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lekhubu943 View Post
    Why do dealers do this? I experienced the same with my Hilux, Prado and Fortuner.

    Nice write-up though Hedgehog. I love FJ's. If they only they came in diesel...... sorry (spit). I digress.
    It's done either by the factory or by those transporting the vehicle, apparently it prevents the new vehicles' tyre from making a "wobble" due to prolonged periods of standing in the same spot in storage. It is actually an item on the dealer's pre-delivery inspection to adjust the tyre pressure, but few do that inspection properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    The Ride:

    The first thing you notice is the weight, after driving it home I looked, and it says they weigh 2024 kg That is only 100 odd kgs more than the Ranger is stock, and I had a few things bolted onto the Ranger, so by and by the Ranger as I had it weighed more.

    But the FJ gives an impression of weight..... in the steering, in the gear knob, in the buttons.. and in the way it just flattens every bump..
    It is very smooth, and once you ar up to highway speeds everything settles down and becomes nice and quiet.

    On the way home, I tried not to stomp on the accelerator again, and I still wonder if that was out of fear or just me being disciplined..

    What bothered me was that steering....

    I just could not get the car to track straight, and the steering needed constant corrections, quite a concern on a busy highway and a car wider than a tank...

    I was wondering if it might be my adjustment, or the shorter wheelbase, or wheel alignment.. But I drove some 180km with a roundabout route home, and eventually it became sort of ok, and I could cope with it.

    I only arrived home after dark, and got some food going then to bed.. Still worried about this steering issue.

    The rest of the stuff I was happy with.

    The next morning I drove to work. The road is not as smooth as normal highways, and I thought I felt some bumps, more than what I thought I should. (In my mind I started thinking of what aftermarket shocks to buy the next day)

    After work I thought let me fill up again, to check what the initial fuel use was, and then just to be sure check that the tyre pressures where ok.

    Well I got two surprises...

    The fuel consumption worked out to 8.8km/l and the tyres were pumped to 3.7 Bar

    yes... 3.7 Bar
    Lol, so glad that I read to the end....for once, so nearly commented "check the tyre pressures".

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    Same issue with mine
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    I can only imagine a first time ride in a FJ with 3.7 bar tyres , it will be all over the road, very light on the steering to the point of being a bit scary.

    Great to see you like it a lot. The FJ is not everyone's cup of tea, but there is a reason why people love them so much and absolutely hate themselves for selling it.

    Treat the loud peddle with respect and they will surprise you on fuel consumption, hammer it and nothing can wipe the smile off your face

    Enjoy it Andrew!
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    Excellent review Andrew, it is pretty much as I experienced my first ride in mine.
    Driving an FJ is something that you cannot explain to someone. Next thing is you are going to find yourself trying to find excuses just to go out for a drive in the FJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    The Ride:

    The first thing you notice is the weight, after driving it home I looked, and it says they weigh 2024 kg That is only 100 odd kgs more than the Ranger is stock, and I had a few things bolted onto the Ranger, so by and by the Ranger as I had it weighed more.

    But the FJ gives an impression of weight..... in the steering, in the gear knob, in the buttons.. and in the way it just flattens every bump..
    It is very smooth, and once you ar up to highway speeds everything settles down and becomes nice and quiet.

    On the way home, I tried not to stomp on the accelerator again, and I still wonder if that was out of fear or just me being disciplined..

    What bothered me was that steering....

    I just could not get the car to track straight, and the steering needed constant corrections, quite a concern on a busy highway and a car wider than a tank...

    I was wondering if it might be my adjustment, or the shorter wheelbase, or wheel alignment.. But I drove some 180km with a roundabout route home, and eventually it became sort of ok, and I could cope with it.

    I only arrived home after dark, and got some food going then to bed.. Still worried about this steering issue.

    The rest of the stuff I was happy with.

    The next morning I drove to work. The road is not as smooth as normal highways, and I thought I felt some bumps, more than what I thought I should. (In my mind I started thinking of what aftermarket shocks to buy the next day)

    After work I thought let me fill up again, to check what the initial fuel use was, and then just to be sure check that the tyre pressures where ok.

    Well I got two surprises...

    The fuel consumption worked out to 8.8km/l and the tyres were pumped to 3.7 Bar

    yes... 3.7 Bar
    I knew it. Every car I have bought in the last 15 years had over pressure tyres. I always since then take my tyre pressure gauge with when collecting a new car and deflate to correct pressures.
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    So Andrew, when are you making a stop at Gobabis Toyota to fine tune that V6

    Sorry Hugo (I couldn't help myself)
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    This was a proper "lekker" read these last few pages of the forum. Congratulation on the Red Sand Rocket!
    Sorry about the struggles of getting it though, but damn, that blissful feeling of once you have it. Makes it all worth it.
    Your descriptions of what you felt with the car was spot on.

    The first ever FJ I saw in action, was back in 2012, my Matric year, I saw one in action at one of our local 4x4 events we used to host. Dieprivier 4x4 here in Pietersburg, Limpopo.
    Of the 70-80 cars there that day, non of them shined like that Red FJ. Every obstacle with ease and grace, the Gymkhana event, not a single car stood out like that thing in the river bed, and the guy had that car absolutely screaming down the river looking like a speedboat cutting through water. That was my "Eendag as ek groot is" moment.

    Never really got the chance to drive one, since most dealers kind of look at you funny when you want to test drive a car being a young, 25-26y/o laaitjie. But eventually got one convinced to let me drive it, and well, long story short. That's the one I bought. Stock as a rock, 2012 lady Driven Black FJ, 98000km on the clock, perfect service record, never been offroad(Well, not a single mark on the skidpans and chassis, not even dust on top op the chassis rails)

    Got mine in Feb 2020, just before lockdown unfortunately, but managed to rack on almost 20000km since Feb 2020. Using it for what it was made for, multiple trails, tracks, farmroads, gravel tracks, rivers, damns, water and mud holes, without any breakages(touch wood) as my daily and only driver. Best stock 4x4 I've been in, but yes, the mods have started, and no clear end in sight as of yet. Getting her fit and ready for Bots and Nam.

    But welcome the the FJ Family, It's a lekker bunch of like minded people and I hope to see that red FJ at a FJ get together in the near future, if uncle Cyril allows it. Chuck me a PM if you want to get added to the Whatsapp group.
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    Thanks Andrew....an enjoyable read, and welcome to the family..........our FJ will probably never get sold as SWAMBO is absolutely in love with it. We don't do much in the way of trails, but the stuff we have done, we have found the FJ to be supremely capable. With the current surge in prices on used FJ's I enquired whether we should sell ours and use the profit as a deposit on a 76......I was politely told to get my own FJ, or 76, or whatever.

    All we have done was to add a 100 liter Gerber Tank, de-CAT and a throttle controller, with aftermarket shocks on the list of things to come. If there are only 2 of you, I cannot think of any other vehicle that does everything so well.

    It tows like an absolute boss on and off road.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    This in summary.. after deflating the tyres to 2.2 bar

    It is everything I had hoped it to be, and more.

    Comfortable
    Strong
    Smooth

    With good off road ability, straight from the shop.
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    Dammit Andrew, I don't like you anymore...

    You've just had this dyed in the wool Landie fanatic Googling FJ specs, reviews and prices!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EttiennedK View Post
    Dammit Andrew, I don't like you anymore...

    You've just had this dyed in the wool Landie fanatic Googling FJ specs, reviews and prices!!!
    You're not the only one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EttiennedK View Post
    Dammit Andrew, I don't like you anymore...

    You've just had this dyed in the wool Landie fanatic Googling FJ specs, reviews and prices!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Chopped View Post
    You're not the only one...
    SNAP!

    It really does look like an awesome vehicle, but for a family of 5 it just isn't practical. And I'm still a very big fan of shorty Pajeros..
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    Quote Originally Posted by EttiennedK View Post
    Dammit Andrew, I don't like you anymore...

    You've just had this dyed in the wool Landie fanatic Googling FJ specs, reviews and prices!!!
    In that case , whatever you do don't go and test drive one.

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    Out of curiosity I just googled FJ prices, my goodness, should I sell our kitted 2018 model I'll make a handsome amount of money. BUT NO
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    I got mine, 2017 model, in Jan for R520 K , same model and milaege one is now R620 K

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    Quote Originally Posted by HugoNotte View Post
    Remember, the Hilux, Fortuner and 70 series got the single VVT-I engine that makes some 176(?) KW. Your FJ got the dual VVT-i 202 KW motor, like the Prado 150, but is a good 300 kg lighter.
    This is very interesting!
    I had a hilux v6 for a while when we stayed in Durban, and I absolutely loved it, but, I found it suffered big time up at JHb altitude. So I was interested to read Andrew's comments on its power here.
    If it has that much more power than the hilux's v6, this all makes sense to me now though. Thanks.
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    Nice review. I've always liked the FJ

    But...

    My wife has always said she really likes the FJ and would not mind one... I will makes sure to park far away from it on the brekkie run.

    Don't wanna add a FJ to my list of items purchased due to the 4x4 Forum.

    More pictures will be appreciated
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    Paid R560k for our fully kitted demo in Nov 2018. Looks like it is worth a lot more now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lekhubu943 View Post
    Why do dealers do this? I experienced the same with my Hilux, Prado and Fortuner.

    Nice write-up though Hedgehog. I love FJ's. If they only they came in diesel...... sorry (spit). I digress.
    All new Toyota's come pumped like that from the factory. We correct all tyre pressures before the vehicles come in the showroom.
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