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    Iemand moet vir Jacob laat weet dat hy kan begin ploeg, hy raak agter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiceman View Post
    Who's Iqbal Survé?
    The guy that ends up with all your tax money ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karol View Post
    You need to look at it from an African cultural perspective and not a Western one.

    in doing so this man is wealthy and blessed.
    I hear you but meanwhile, back in the world of reality...........................

    Besides, culture and traditions are learned behaviours.

    But, as the article states, attitudes are a changin and this type of practice is being seen to be as perverse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaan Pot View Post
    The guy that ends up with all your tax money ....
    He ripped a new one in the PIC so indirectly the GEPS.

    Similar to a Gupta or a Zuma.

    There is a saying, "Breed what you can feed."

    One of the reasons why people do not get overboard about Indian monsoon deaths or their supposed covid deaths.
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    This thread reminds me of a famous obiter expressed by a judge many many years ago when a man sued his wife for fraud after he found out he was paying maintenance for 10 years in respect of a child that he didn't sire.

    I am paraphrasing, but it went something like this:

    "Iemand wat seks op so roekelose wyse bedryf dat hy onseker is wie sy kind is, sal daar soms van verwag word om te maai waar hy nie gesaai het nie"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    I hear you but meanwhile, back in the world of reality...........................

    Besides, culture and traditions are learned behaviours.

    But, as the article states, attitudes are a changin and this type of practice is being seen to be as perverse.
    The fact that western cultures are clashing with native cultures was inevitable.

    What Africans are only starting to realise now is that when you beg for money from European Countries, payments usually come with conditions. Civil rights requirements are the biggest condition.

    So where it was perfectly possible (and plausible) in a native culture that you can have three wives, 15 children and m.oer them once in a while if (and when) you feel like it, now its not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    The fact that western cultures are clashing with native cultures was inevitable.

    What Africans are only starting to realise now is that when you beg for money from European Countries, payments usually come with conditions. Civil rights requirements are the biggest condition.

    So where it was perfectly possible (and plausible) in a native culture that you can have three wives, 15 children and m.oer them once in a while if (and when) you feel like it, now its not.
    Perhaps at some stage it will also penetrate that culture is part of the reason why Western society is the one donating and Africa is generally begging

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiceman View Post
    Who's Iqbal Survé?
    Killer of the Cape Time and Argus, PIC thief in chief, liar, slimey hanger on of bent politicians like Tina Joemat-Pettersen and Lindiwe Sisulu (and the rest), Zupta and RET mouthpiece. Other than that I'm sure he's a nice chap.

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    I wonder if there are people who are willing to educate people like Mr. Fertile and maybe introduce them to birth control.
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    Yesterday, here in Greece, I was asked by a Greek guy whether South Africans generally also struggle with conceiving/ having children/ getting pregnant.

    I had to think carefully before formulating my answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    Yesterday, here in Greece, I was asked by a Greek guy whether South Africans generally also struggle with conceiving/ having children/ getting pregnant.

    I had to think carefully before formulating my answer
    Ja-nee, here I swear some women get pregnant by wind-pollination.
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    I tell my rugrats that children are over-rated !!

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    Sjo, and here my (only) wife and I are debating child number 3.
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    I’ve got one child that I know about.......Rumblings of one in Klerksdorp and one in Poland.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens78 View Post
    Ja-nee, here I swear some women get pregnant by wind-pollination.


    You forget that they fall pregnant the poor things, maybe government should start handing out spectacles for free so the poor souls stop tripping over everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens78 View Post
    Ja-nee, here I swear some women get pregnant by wind-pollination.
    Why is it that African people are so fertile? Serious question? Is it maybe their diet? Lost, and lots of our friends struggle to conceive, yet if you walk through a shebeen too slow you come out the other side pregnant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morne - Skip View Post
    Why is it that African people are so fertile? Serious question? Is it maybe their diet? Lost, and lots of our friends struggle to conceive, yet if you walk through a shebeen too slow you come out the other side pregnant.
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    I have spoken to the one guy at work. He is from Zim. He recons that in many cases not all the kids are from the one father. He says that there is no way one guy can satisfy 16+ women so they jump the fence.
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    Also. There is no way this model is sustainable. The tax paying individuals are getting less and less while the social grant recipiets are getting more and more
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    The common rhetoric is that the Western culture is the norm to which success should be measured and everything not holding up to our advanced way of thinking is looked down upon and should scoffed at.
    But exactly how did we make the world a better place, o we build roads, and cars, and industries and printed copious amounts of money, we tamed nature, we fished and poluted tbe oceans, we decimated forests and savannas in the name of progress, we build a atomic bomb that ended a war......there is something to be really proud for sure prouder rhan 16 wives...
    We have pictures of a mountain of bison skulls but we are western and therefore civilized
    The western culture consumes and pollutes and in the name of progress destroys.
    If we never ever set foot with our "advanced" industries in Africa, the Amazon, the American west, would those areas really be worse off today than they currently are, or would nature still be in perfect balance.
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