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    Default What changed with Peanut Butter?

    When I was (much) younger, opening a jar of peanut butter usually found a layer of oil on the top that had to be mixed in. This resulted in an easily spreadable goo that used to melt into hot bread like real butter does.

    Today you're greeted by a sticky putty like sludge of even consistency that can be sculpted and remains like that forever, never returning to an even surface in the jar. Spreading on hot bread doesn't result in melting, it just breaks the bread up.

    And this is Black Cat, the most famous brand. Anyone know what has happened?

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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    Haven't used Black Cat since nineteenvoertsek.

    Yum-yum is much better.

    But now you mentioned it, I remember
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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Olyfboer View Post
    When I was (much) younger, opening a jar of peanut butter usually found a layer of oil on the top that had to be mixed in. This resulted in an easily spreadable goo that used to melt into hot bread like real butter does.

    Today you're greeted by a sticky putty like sludge of even consistency that can be sculpted and remains like that forever, never returning to an even surface in the jar. Spreading on hot bread doesn't result in melting, it just breaks the bread up.

    And this is Black Cat, the most famous brand. Anyone know what has happened?
    Yes exactly, itís very putty like now. And much sweeter to me. Iím sure I remember Black Cat said no added salt or sugar too. Whatever they have itís just not as good as it was. My next best choice is the woollies one.

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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    Yum Yum has added sugar and salt and a stabiliser - high melting point fat. Black Cat supposed to be peanuts only. Filling and initial storage temperatures are what stop the product from oiling out - if you cool it down to the correct teperature and then fill it, then store it for 24 hours at the correct storage temperature after filling, the fat in the peanut butter forms beta crystals and the product will not oil out. If this is done incorrectly the fat remains as alpha crystals and the product can oil out.

    So if you like oily peanut butter try heating it up to above 70 degrees C and let it cool down slowly and this might do the trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewdjulyan View Post
    Yes exactly, itís very putty like now. And much sweeter to me. Iím sure I remember Black Cat said no added salt or sugar too. Whatever they have itís just not as good as it was. My next best choice is the woollies one.
    They still have a crunchy and a smooth version without added sugar nor salt.
    But the normal ones do have added sugar and salt.

    When I worked in Tanzania, the locally produced peanut butter had that layer of oil on top.
    You can find some "health brands" at Food Lovers Market and at Dischem, they also have that layer of oil.
    Problem is, that a lot of popular brands claim zero transfats, but then show hydrogenated oils, which are transfats.
    Black Cat for one is pretty natural and only adds salt and sugar, but at least offers the totally natural versions without even that.
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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    Maybe its apartheids fault too.
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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    The oil was part of the problem they had and didn't know what to do with it. So the bottle came with the oil. Was a way if getting rid of it.b

    Few years later there are all kinds of uses for the oil and it is expensive.

    Bio fuel is one use that has increased massively! Cosmetics, explosives. All use veg oil.

    And then of course just buying peanut oil to cook with.
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    By the Woolworths brand no added sugar peanut butter. Itís a red label I think. As close as it gets to the black cat from the old days.

    or, if you really want a treat, buy their organic one. Often ďfree rangeĒ and ďorganicĒ are just catch phrases to allow them charge more for stuff, based on what is essentially window dressing to allow the said labelling, but that 100% natural peanut butter from woolies is awesome.

    both the regular, and the organic ones seperate when standing a while, as they should..... none of that modelling clay crap you get from black cat

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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scheepers85 View Post
    By the Woolworths brand no added sugar peanut butter. Itís a red label I think. As close as it gets to the black cat from the old days.

    or, if you really want a treat, buy their organic one. Often ďfree rangeĒ and ďorganicĒ are just catch phrases to allow them charge more for stuff, based on what is essentially window dressing to allow the said labelling, but that 100% natural peanut butter from woolies is awesome.

    both the regular, and the organic ones seperate when standing a while, as they should..... none of that modelling clay crap you get from black cat
    Woolies and Yun Yum made in the same factory but to different recipes. Same raw peanuts though.

    Try the Yum Yum Double crunch, it excellent, I eat it by the spoonful just like that. The Yum Yum sugar free is also nice, great consistency.

    I wonder if Black Cat isn't just imported. Huge problem with imported peanut butter from India, they're landing their finished product at less than the cost of peanuts due to the duties on nuts but no duties in the finished product.

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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    Same thing happened to Rice Krispies.
    Dont know why change a formula that worked for many years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiceman View Post
    Maybe its apartheids fault too.

    Much further back - its Jan's fault.


    But ja black cat is probably the worst nowadays. I read an article a year or 2 ago about a group of journos testing popular brand peanut butter and black cat came out close to last. I think Yum-Yum was the 2nd best after some crazy snobby expensive woolies stuff.
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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    Get some peanut oil and add it yourself.

    I think the health and safety people took exception and had it removed.
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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    What you say Hermie, give us the answer
    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    Get some peanut oil and add it yourself.

    I think the health and safety people took exception and had it removed.

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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    Yip, black cat just not the same anymore. Yum yum as well as pick n pay is better.
    I remember that melt into the toast versions, they were awesome. You could probably still find those oily layer types if you have a look at wholesale places that stock those unknown brands which usually gets sold to spaza type shops. My favourite (when mom was on a budget and didn't buy a top brand) was the 'jumbo' brand, I kinda remember it having a pink elephant on the logo. Mixing in that top oily layer was part of the experience.

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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    To be very honest; I hated the oil on top and was extremely happy when I got to know Yum-yum. I guess taste differs.
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    Peanut butter mixed with mixed fruit jam spread onto fresh bread mmmmmh.
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    Love peanut butter and favorite is khlokoman at checkers red and green 1kg drum and Dursots at president hyper, smoky roasty awesome
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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    Also love peanut butter, but I hate the oil on top. I prefer a dry peanut butter.

    I only buy no sugar, no salt version and Woolies are my favourite, plus they always have the big bottles. Yum-yum is very good, but I can always only find the small bottles which is impractical for the amounts I use.

    Those whose say Woolies are crazy expensive: what is the price of a big bottle of their brand of PB? What is the price of Black Cat at Woolies compared to Checkers? Come on, tell me.

    BTW I thought PB and peanuts are the devils spawn for the keto crowd Why you eating peanut butter, Olyfboer?
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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    Quote Originally Posted by lekhubu943 View Post
    Also love peanut butter, but I hate the oil on top. I prefer a dry peanut butter.

    I only buy no sugar, no salt version and Woolies are my favourite, plus they always have the big bottles. Yum-yum is very good, but I can always only find the small bottles which is impractical for the amounts I use.

    Those whose say Woolies are crazy expensive: what is the price of a big bottle of their brand of PB? What is the price of Black Cat at Woolies compared to Checkers? Come on, tell me.

    BTW I thought PB and peanuts are the devils spawn for the keto crowd Why you eating peanut butter, Olyfboer?
    I reached goal weight and carried on going down. Started to look anorexic. Doc said that keto is not natural once at goal weight and you have to take some carbs in to stabilise the weight. I still avoid any sugar. Now it's a balancing act to stay at goal weight.

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    Default Re: What changed with Peanut Butter?

    Quote Originally Posted by lekhubu943 View Post
    Also love peanut butter, but I hate the oil on top. I prefer a dry peanut butter.

    I only buy no sugar, no salt version and Woolies are my favourite, plus they always have the big bottles. Yum-yum is very good, but I can always only find the small bottles which is impractical for the amounts I use.

    Those whose say Woolies are crazy expensive: what is the price of a big bottle of their brand of PB? What is the price of Black Cat at Woolies compared to Checkers? Come on, tell me.

    BTW I thought PB and peanuts are the devils spawn for the keto crowd Why you eating peanut butter, Olyfboer?


    Majority of times the Woolies PB is actually less expensive than Blackcat, I also buy the no sugar no salt.
    As for the keto, in my opinion if I really need a snack a spoon of PB is better than a slice of bread, rusk or biscuit. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

    Many people have a chocolate as a cheat treat, I have a spoon of PB.
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