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    Default Grand Cherokee WJ or WK any good? Diesel or Petrol?

    Hi all,

    I need some input from the Jeep oracles. I am considering to swop my bakkie for a Jeep and some cash. From what I read the WJ used to be quite a lot of car for what you pay. However they are getting quite old now, and I need something reliable for the next 12 months or so. Would something like this be considered reasonable, or is it getting risky?

    https://www.autotrader.co.za/redirect/listing/25910064

    Any other suggestions for under R100k? I like diesel, but is slightly wary of high milage diesel engines, so is inclined to petrol if I go the GC route. Or is diesel also a consideration?
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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pieter van Eeden View Post
    Hi all,

    I need some input from the Jeep oracles. I am considering to swop my bakkie for a Jeep and some cash. From what I read the WJ used to be quite a lot of car for what you pay. However they are getting quite old now, and I need something reliable for the next 12 months or so. Would something like this be considered reasonable, or is it getting risky?

    https://www.autotrader.co.za/redirect/listing/25910064

    Any other suggestions for under R100k? I like diesel, but is slightly wary of high milage diesel engines, so is inclined to petrol if I go the GC route. Or is diesel also a consideration?
    Pieter - I personally like them. However they are very thirsty in town.

    As that car has no service plan or warranty, the parts for them are becoming more and more scarce but I’m sure that if you can’t find parts locally, the parts can be imported from the US relatively easy but maybe not cheaply. But I would assume that you are a technical guy.

    If it was me who bought the car, the first thing I’d do is drain all the oils in engine, gearbox, transfer case, diffs, do a coolant flush and service properly to reduce the risk. That can cost about R5k or so if you do it yourself. If you have an OBD scanner I’d suggest you drive the vehicle and check for engine codes and take it from there.

    I think it’s 50 / 50 buying this car as either a gem or a lemon.

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    Default Which Grand Cherokee for ±R100k?

    Eish, 50/50 is a bit high risk for me. I find the pricing very confusing. Prices vary from R50k to R150k, but I cannot seem to find a definite relation with between price, age and mileage.

    I just saw this one, which is a bit more confidence inspiring to me. I understand those engines are pretty solid. It does stretch the budget a bit though...

    https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...40911389331509
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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    If it was me - for a Jeep I’d be more comfortable with a petrol version.

    In your budget I’d also consider Pajero.

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    Default Re: Which Grand Cherokee for ±R100k?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pieter van Eeden View Post
    Eish, 50/50 is a bit high risk for me. I find the pricing very confusing. Prices vary from R50k to R150k, but I cannot seem to find a definite relation with between price, age and mileage.

    I just saw this one, which is a bit more confidence inspiring to me. I understand those engines are pretty solid. It does stretch the budget a bit though...

    https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...40911389331509
    That is a wk and it is leaps ahead of a wj. A lot more sophisticated and comfortable. That isn’t a bad price considering it’s a 2010. You can get a 2005-2007 for under 90k. That would be your best bet. A lot of parts from merc.

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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    That WK looks like a good bet.

    Solid engine and gearbox. That being said, like any older vehicle things can go wrong.

    Fluids are very important to be correct spec.

    WK CRD's are probably one of the best value options on the market.
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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    If you're going for the WJ, don't get the Overland / High Output motor. It's not as reliable as the normal 4.7 V8. I would say the normal V8 is very reliable. Diesel is an option, but pricey to fix if the injectors or pump have issues.

    Having said that, the 2.7CRD is the one to have if you go diesel. It's the OM612 Mercedes Benz engine, so all the spares are Merc, easy to get.
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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    I have a 2004 WJ Overland with the HO motor, 150k km on the clock. That price of R99k is too much. I bought mine in 2014 for R105k with 93k km on the clock. If I sell now I would be VERY lucky to get R80k for mine (based on a previous offers) even if it is in good nick.

    Mine is serviced by Bulli in Silverton who is well known to be an expert on all things Jeep. I have thus far spent much more than my purchase price to keep the Jeep going. HOWEVER it is paid of so if I offset the maintenance and repairs vs costs of a new car I cannot replace the Jeep for anything remotely as capable and luxurious.
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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    The price is to high.

    R60 000 up to R80 000 is more correct.

    The vehicle looks good so R 80 000 might be a reasonable price if all else is ok.

    Spares not a big problem but these vehicles are getting old and seals/rubbers/hoses are getting brittle and cracked.

    Electric wiring and connections also starting to act up.

    Since there is no monthly installment the repairs and maintenance is forgiven.

    As mentioned above, replace all oils on the diffs, gearbox and transfer case with the correct ones. Flush radiator and fill with correct fluid.

    Service engine.

    Buli (Andre) and Eben in Pretoria are some of the trusted Jeep specialists.

    Fuel consumption will be 3-4km/l in town or off-road and up to 8km/l @ 100km/h on the open road.

    Very nice vehicle to drive and for towing, capable off-roader.
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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    I had a good buy from We buy cars. Got mine for 30k with 230000km. It did have valve stem seal problems and that was it. Fuel consumption was about 14-16l/100km in town and about 10-12l/100km open road. I managed to get from Roodepoort to Amanzimtoti in one tank and the Jeep was fully loaded. The wjs are nice. At one point I had a hemi wk and 4.7 wj parked in my garage. Wj is probably meant more for off road due to the solid axle up front but that wk has a lot of tricks up it’s sleeves. I would go for a wk rather. I got mine, again for a really good deal, for R55000. Only had 160000km. Needed some cosmetic details, new brakes and AC pump. Good luck

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    Default Re: Which Grand Cherokee for ±R100k?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pieter van Eeden View Post
    Eish, 50/50 is a bit high risk for me. I find the pricing very confusing. Prices vary from R50k to R150k, but I cannot seem to find a definite relation with between price, age and mileage.

    I just saw this one, which is a bit more confidence inspiring to me. I understand those engines are pretty solid. It does stretch the budget a bit though...

    https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...40911389331509
    Hierdie lyk na 'n goeie kopie.

    My WK met die OM642 engine in staan nou op 364000km. Diens elke 10000km, ry lekker, lig op diesel, great off-road ens.

    'n 4.7 gaan baie goedkoper wees en Laredo spec as jy bang is vir die diesel.

    WK's is awesome.


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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    Pieter, ek sien Bulli verkoop sy Commander.

    Obviously is die ding gediens en in goeie toestand.

    Die Commanders hou ook meer waarde as die WK is het baie meer spasie.

    Swart met Rubicon wiele.

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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak View Post
    Pieter, ek sien Bulli verkoop sy Commander.

    Obviously is die ding gediens en in goeie toestand.

    Die Commanders hou ook meer waarde as die WK is het baie meer spasie.

    Swart met Rubicon wiele.

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    Daai is eintlik n once in a lifetime... Die Commanders is soos n WK maar meer versatile.

    Hier is my 2 sent op n WJ, ek het myne gelove, hulle kan heel reliable wees en myne het baie min moeilikheid gegee. Gaan vir die gewone 4.7 V8 of as jy nie hou van krag nie die 4.0 I6 (dink hulle is maar skaars). Die 3.1 diesel is n no go, die 2.7 is baie beter maar kanse om n mooi een te kry is nogal skraal, (die 2.7 is darem Merc engine en ratkas), een nadeel van hulle is sover ek weet was hulle nie beskikbaar in Amerika nie, so van die parte is moeilik om te kry van Amerika en moet van Europa af kom. Ek sou nie meer as R80k max betaal het nie, maar sou dalk kyk vir n decent een teen R60-70K. Soos vantevore gese, n goeie een gaan skaars raak en jy gaan probably moet soek. Soos reeds gese vervang alle fluids (insluitende Power steering) met die regte olie, dit is meer as waarskynlik dat iemand probeer geld spaar het op n stadium en die verkeerde olie gebruik het. Maar, indien jy nie wil swaar 4x4 nie sal ek ook voorstel jy gaan vir n WK, steeds baie capable off road, maar meer gemaklik op die pad en baie meer moderne binnekant.

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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    We liked our 4.7 V8. Very thirsty though. No issues engine wise. We had to replace a tweeter and when one of the suspensions failed and needed replacement we sold it.

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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    Het n 2004 jeep grand Cherokee 2.7 crd black pearl.Wj. Het nou 260k km op. Spotless. Ry soos n droom. Van die lekkerste sitplekke wat ek ken. Lig op diesel. 9 ltr per 100km. 12.5 ltr in die dorp. Trek sterk. Maaaaaar, hulle gee drama met limpmode. Die ratkas raak dom en sit die enjin in limpmode. As hy nie in limpmode is nie is dit n lekker voertuig. O die black pearl edition het 150kw en 450nm.
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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    Sam, help my reg ? Ek het iewers raakgelees van n outobox wat drama veroorsaak .
    Die oplossing is om n ekstra earthcable tussen die ratkas en chassis te sit .
    Kan nie onthou of dit ook op n Jeep was nie ?
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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    The earth cables on the WJ is definitely an known issue, not only for the gearbox.

    Also low voltage on the battery. Make sure that the battery is healthy, below 12.3v you start to run in to various issues, including difficulty starting and jerky gear shift. Charge up and it all goes away.

    Might also be so on other Jeeps?
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    Jip. Jeep maak so. Soos bo gese is selfs n pap battery maak sy kop mal
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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Therackermann View Post
    If it was me - for a Jeep I’d be more comfortable with a petrol version.

    In your budget I’d also consider Pajero.
    I'm definitely going to look at them. I've always had a soft spot for Pajero and they have proven to be quite reliable. I will even consider a well looked after Colt Rodeo V6. Not the 2.8 diesel though... :-)
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    Default Re: 2002 Grand Cherokee V8 any good?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeepfamily View Post
    I had a good buy from We buy cars. Got mine for 30k with 230000km. It did have valve stem seal problems and that was it. Fuel consumption was about 14-16l/100km in town and about 10-12l/100km open road. I managed to get from Roodepoort to Amanzimtoti in one tank and the Jeep was fully loaded. The wjs are nice. At one point I had a hemi wk and 4.7 wj parked in my garage. Wj is probably meant more for off road due to the solid axle up front but that wk has a lot of tricks up it’s sleeves. I would go for a wk rather. I got mine, again for a really good deal, for R55000. Only had 160000km. Needed some cosmetic details, new brakes and AC pump. Good luck
    If I may ask, when and where did you get that deal on the WK? And how did you know it was not a lemon when you bought it? Would you say I should be able to find something similar with relative ease, or did you have a lucky deal?
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