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    Default Medical oxygen tanks

    Good day gents, i trust all is well... It is friday after all.,,
    I'd like to buy a few oxygen tanks to keep and have in case its needed but not readily available within my community.
    Do any of you know where these tanks can be "bought" in Cape Town?

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    Very few outright sell tanks, they are very expensive to buy and getting self owned tanks filled can be difficult.

    I'm assuming you are looking for tanks with medical grade oxygen. Probably best is Affrox but you have to pay a monthly rental on the tank, last I remember it was in the range of R100-200 per month depending on the tank size. That excludes the gas which is billed each time it's refilled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortuna View Post
    Good day gents, i trust all is well... It is friday after all.,,
    I'd like to buy a few oxygen tanks to keep and have in case its needed but not readily available within my community.
    Do any of you know where these tanks can be "bought" in Cape Town?

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by fortuna View Post
    Good day gents, i trust all is well... It is friday after all.,,
    I'd like to buy a few oxygen tanks to keep and have in case its needed but not readily available within my community.
    Do any of you know where these tanks can be "bought" in Cape Town?

    Thanks
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    Default Re: Medical oxygen tanks

    You will need more than just an oxygen tank.

    I have one of these, http://danshop.co.za/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=176, use it for freediving safety. Currently out of stock so you are not the only one thinking along these lines! Point being you need a regulator.
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    Default Re: Medical oxygen tanks

    You would get it from medical supply shops. So google those in your area and contact them. They have different policies. Some will buy them back from people that no longer need them and sell again. Others only provide new ones. You will have to do a bit of research to find your best options.

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    Years ago we used to use normal air tanks. Painted them white with a black shoulder. I can't remember what pressure they were filled to. Most SCUBA tanks go to 240 bar some to 300 bar. A normal 1st stage and regulator were fitted to make them work.
    NO oil must come anywhere near the fittings. As pure O2 and oil will ignite.

    Remember we used those cylinders in Northern Moz etc where there was zero back up circa 30 years ago.
    I have no idea if it will be feasible today.
    Another guy you could try is Alan Pepper at Bass Lake just south of Jhb, he will know where to get O2 tanks from.
    Or Draeger Systems also JHB.

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    There is unlikely to be a medical oxygen shortage in SA (well, I hope not).

    I presume you are thinking of a severe Covid 3rd wave? What might be more useful as a front line tool is to buy an oximeter.

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    Bought mine on Amazon, had it filled here by a medic friend.

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    I sincerely hope that every Tom, Dick and Harry is not going to buy O2 cylinders and stockpile them, that would clearly increase our chances of ending up with shortages. Hopefully the 02 suppliers like Afrox see this coming and limit the number of cylinders for sale.

    I am horrified to think of large numbers of O2 cylinders lying fallow, whereas they might just otherwise be put to better use. Being trampled in the stampede is not a pleasant prospect.
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    Oxygen therapy is a process that needs to be monitored and regulated by a professional.

    Pure oxygen at the wrong rate can burn your lungs if not used correctly.

    I suggest you get a professional opinion to avoid your own personal disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Weakley View Post
    I sincerely hope that every Tom, Dick and Harry is not going to buy O2 cylinders and stockpile them, that would clearly increase our chances of ending up with shortages. Hopefully the 02 suppliers like Afrox see this coming and limit the number of cylinders for sale.

    I am horrified to think of large numbers of O2 cylinders lying fallow, whereas they might just otherwise be put to better use. Being trampled in the stampede is not a pleasant prospect.
    My wife suffered a pulmonary aneurism. We have an Afrox oxygen concentrator in the main bedroom, and I bought a quality portable concentrator which stays downstairs and we take it with when we go away for weekends. Especially if we are going inland to higher altitudes.

    She also had a small ( guess about 3-5kg) green oxygen bottle with regulators supplied by Afrox (all via our med-aid) in case of an emergency like load shedding. Fortunately her condition isn't too serious and we didnt use the bottle ever in 4 years. Last year during Covid Afrox "asked" if we wouldn't mind returning the bottle as they know it has never been used and they needed it.

    They can also see how much the concentrator is used because it has a counter. She uses it most days for 30-60 minutes, usually in the morning after her shower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    My wife suffered a pulmonary aneurism.......
    Fluffy obviously I cannot be sure, but for what its worth, I suspect your wife suffered from a pulmonary embolism (not aneurism).

    That is a clot originating from elsewhere (usually a major vein in the leg) and lodging in the lungs.
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    What would happen if you pumped industrial use oxygen through water and gently held it under your nose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by getoutahere View Post
    What would happen if you pumped industrial use oxygen through water and gently held it under your nose?
    Industrial oxygen is of a lower grade due to its impurities. The water is for humidification and not filtration of impurities.

    The impurities arise from no cleaning of tanks or lines etc for industrial oxygen so one would probably inhale some kinds of bacteria or similar with industrial oxygen. But Im sure the research has been done. I doubt as to whether or not one will die but unsure .

    Maybe there is a volunteer here who is willing to experiment for us in the name of forum science..
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    Default Re: Medical oxygen tanks

    First off the water should be medical grade clean.
    Second ... I don't know it could probably be better than dying without any oxygen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Weakley View Post
    Fluffy obviously I cannot be sure, but for what its worth, I suspect your wife suffered from a pulmonary embolism (not aneurism).

    That is a clot originating from elsewhere (usually a major vein in the leg) and lodging in the lungs.
    Thanks, Yep, that's the one. While the clot was in her lungs her heart was damaged due to overwork.

    And lo and behold - guess what medication she is on . Viagra. Five years later and her heart has recovered and pressures are almost normal again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Therackermann View Post
    Industrial oxygen is of a lower grade due to its impurities. The water is for humidification and not filtration of impurities.

    The impurities arise from no cleaning of tanks or lines etc for industrial oxygen so one would probably inhale some kinds of bacteria or similar with industrial oxygen. But Im sure the research has been done. I doubt as to whether or not one will die but unsure .

    Maybe there is a volunteer here who is willing to experiment for us in the name of forum science..
    My guess is that the impurities will probably be other gasses/chemicals used in the plant. So things like acetylene, etc.

    If it was a choice between trying or dying I know what I would choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    My guess is that the impurities will probably be other gasses/chemicals used in the plant. So things like acetylene, etc.

    If it was a choice between trying or dying I know what I would choose.
    Yip. It goes without say.

    In December when there was an oxygen shortage, I had family members in need of oxygen. The hospital sent them home with an oxygen concentrator machine that they rented from a private medical equipment supplier for 2 weeks that was prescribed. It was also covered by medical aid.

    Probably a much safer alternative.
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    Default Re: Medical oxygen tanks

    If you need oxygen, bottles are not going to work a big bottle will last about 10 hours and a portable one 3.5 hours. For home use a oxygen concentrator is much better it will provide 24/7. Bottles are only for portable supply or backup during load shedding.

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