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    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    Shocking build quality for a 1bar vehicle. Check that gap
    jah, so it's a proper Defender after all

    Jokes aside, I've seen about 3-4 in the flesh, and a cursory look revealed some awful panel gaps, especially around the bonnet - front bumper area. Mind you, even my L494 has this, so maybe it's a JLR 'feature'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orxy View Post
    jah, so it's a proper Defender after all

    Jokes aside, I've seen about 3-4 in the flesh, and a cursory look revealed some awful panel gaps, especially around the bonnet - front bumper area. Mind you, even my L494 has this, so maybe it's a JLR 'feature'
    Panel gaps are usually an optional extra with LR
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    Shocking build quality for a 1bar vehicle. Check that gap


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    In LR's defense, is that not just the bonnet that is opened?

    The American Youtube channel TFL that had been test driving the vehicle, had a lot of issues. But the vehicle seems so very well thought out, with many cool gadgets and great looking interior.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtdBunnvnq4

    What I don't get is why Land Rover does not spend more time making it more reliable, getting the basics right first, before adding more and more bells and whistles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patroller View Post
    In LR's defense, is that not just the bonnet that is opened?

    The American Youtube channel TFL that had been test driving the vehicle, had a lot of issues. But the vehicle seems so very well thought out, with many cool gadgets and great looking interior.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtdBunnvnq4

    What I don't get is why Land Rover does not spend more time making it more reliable, getting the basics right first, before adding more and more bells and whistles.
    Jy het die gemis in my post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PdT33 View Post
    These Defenders have now been around for a few months, any comments on reliability? Vs new off roaders like a Discovery, Cruiser etc. The air suspension is one concern, but it looks great and I prefer new cars
    That says a lot, if a new Defender's reliability is measured in months!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patroller View Post

    What I don't get is why Land Rover does not spend more time making it more reliable, getting the basics right first, before adding more and more bells and whistles.
    And this is the 1 million dollar question many have been asking for a long time...

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    Die beste 4 x 4 ooit het die voorreg gehad om met die petrol een te ry."Off Road" en teer pad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patroller View Post
    In LR's defense, is that not just the bonnet that is opened?

    The American Youtube channel TFL that had been test driving the vehicle, had a lot of issues. But the vehicle seems so very well thought out, with many cool gadgets and great looking interior.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtdBunnvnq4

    What I don't get is why Land Rover does not spend more time making it more reliable, getting the basics right first, before adding more and more bells and whistles.
    Bonnet was open for the battery charger. Trust me there are no gaps and all panels fit perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PdT33 View Post
    These Defenders have now been around for a few months, any comments on reliability? Vs new off roaders like a Discovery, Cruiser etc. The air suspension is one concern, but it looks great and I prefer new cars
    From a "delivery" point of view: I have done 2500km with mine of which 250km gravel roads. Up till now I could not identify a single item not working as it should. Gravel ride is better than the Discovery 3 I had (bigger 32' wheels?).

    The D300 engine is a beast. Interface easy to use.

    I have covered 315 000 km with the Disco doing what it is made for. I will vouch for the reliability of the air suspension. Not one lowering of air suspension to bump stops due to an error in 14 years. I did replaced the compressor at the earliest sign of an issue (first one under warranty, second one more than 230 000km)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    Jy het die gemis in my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etn View Post
    From a "delivery" point of view: I have done 2500km with mine of which 250km gravel roads. Up till now I could not identify a single item not working as it should. Gravel ride is better than the Discovery 3 I had (bigger 32' wheels?).

    The D300 engine is a beast. Interface easy to use.

    I have covered 315 000 km with the Disco doing what it is made for. I will vouch for the reliability of the air suspension. Not one lowering of air suspension to bump stops due to an error in 14 years. I did replaced the compressor at the earliest sign of an issue (first one under warranty, second one more than 230 000km)
    I ordered a d300 in Jan and until today I still cannot get a delivery date from LR. My order in a holding pool. Lots of delays at factory. I therefore opted for this zD240 that arrived last week that was closest to my spec. Lost out on solar atten windscreen and electric towbar and got a black roof and rails but looks ok. Not a train smash. Glad you enjoying yours. Wed delivery for me as I’m having ppf fitted especially for the gloss black bits which are seriously impractical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PdT33 View Post
    These Defenders have now been around for a few months, any comments on reliability? Vs new off roaders like a Discovery, Cruiser etc. The air suspension is one concern, but it looks great and I prefer new cars
    Why would you say the air suspension is a concern?, that is probable the best suspension on the market and very reliable. You will get about 10 years plus out of the air suspension, and that is about what you will get out of a normal suspension before it sags. But you have the ability to lift the car with just a touch of a button, where a normal suspension you cannot , and with a normal suspension, once you lift the car the ride is much harder. Air suspensions has proven it self over their years to be the best choice. Toyota is starting to use it now as well if I am not mistaken

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    I've had mine now since July last year.

    I've done the Lebombo trail with it, a trip through the Wild Coast, and a couple of 4x4 tracks around Gauteng.
    A friend of mine has joined me with his old Defender a lot of the time.
    Offroad, he's prepared to go further than I am, (especially in terms of thorny Bush and rocks) but where it does go, the ND does it with a lot less effort, and will go further off-road in traction limited situations than the old Defender will.
    On-road wise, the ND especially the P400, with almost 300KW is just awesome.

    Reliability wise, 1 or 2 small gadgetry niggles on the Pivi Pro sytem, but like it was said, nothing a control-alt-del can't sort out. Other than that all is good. I do get a "coolent level low" warning, but there's a recall on that that I must just pop in have sorted.

    I thought there was a problem when I got an "emergency breaking not available" caution a couple of times, but its just from either a dirty windscreen where the 1 radar camera sits behind, or a dirty Land Rover badge bug smear (because behind it also sits a radar transmitter for redundancy purposes for the autonomous braking in emergencies)
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    Quote Originally Posted by shady View Post
    I've had mine now since July last year.

    I've done the Lebombo trail with it, a trip through the Wild Coast, and a couple of 4x4 tracks around Gauteng.
    My friend of mine has joined me with his old Defender a lot of the time.
    Offroad, he's prepared to go further than I am, (especially in terms of thorny Bush and rockes) but where it does go, the ND does it with a lot less effort, and will go further offroad in traction limited situations than the old Defender will.
    On-road wise, the ND especially th P400, with almost 300KW is just awesome.

    Reliability wise, 1 or 2 small gadgetry niggles on the Pivi Pro sytem, but like it was said, nothing a control -alt del can't sort out. Other than that all is good. I do get a "coolent level low" warning, but there's a recall on that that I must just pop in have sorted.

    I thought there was a problem when I got an "emergency breaking not available" caution a couple of times, but its just from either a dirty windscreen where the 1 radar camera sits behind, or a dirty Land Rover badge bug smear (because behind it also sits a radar transmitter for redundancy purposes for the autonomous braking in emergencies)
    Great stuff! Im there late next week.
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    Fit some 35 and it will go anywhere:

    https://youtu.be/zviGc69Qysk

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