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    Default Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Following on to the "Is it possible to buy a usable 4x4 with a R40k budget?" thread and having purchased such a vehicle at the beginning of February, I thought I'll start a thread on the actual monthly and total cost of running it over a period of time. As I do as much as possible of the maintenance and repairs myself, labor costs will only be included if and when the vehicle goes to a workshop. Cost of fuel is excluded.

    Vehicle:

    1998 Land Rover Discovery 300Tdi ES. 345 000km.

    Purchase price:

    R25 000. (Road worthy included)

    Cost of repairs, maintenance and upgrades:

    1. Fitted TerraFirma shocks - R5000.00
    2. LBB engine monitor - R2000.00
    3. Fuel lift pump - R650.00
    4. Brake Booster - R1750.00
    5. 4 Glow plugs - R343.85
    6. 2 Flexible brake hoses - R238.50
    7. All filters - R454.25
    8. Oil - R612.50
    9. Rear shock absorber mounting - R172.50.
    10. Gear lever bush - R109.00
    11. Install electrical plugs for fridge etc. - R1277.70
    12. Hub dust cap - R100.00
    13. Thermostat - R109.25
    14. Anti-freeze - R427.45

    TOTAL cost since purchase: R13255.00


    Average monthly maintenance cost since purchase (3.5 months) R3787.14
    Last edited by EttiennedK; 2021/05/13 at 08:29 AM. Reason: more info
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    I can give some comparitives here for a pajero.

    I bought a 1999 Mitsubishi pajerp 3,5 v6 lwb.
    It had just over 300k on the clock when I got it.

    I bought it in November 2018 for R40k

    Full service including cam belt and doing cor and adding some led spots in January 2019 cost R11738

    The after market alarm system went faulty and cost R460 to remove in December 2019

    Needed 2 new tyres in December 2019 amd got hifly a/t tyres for R3122

    Had a service, serviced and repaired the power steering pump, replaced alternator, repaired hooter which stopped working in April 2021 and cost R8073

    In nearly 3 yeats ownership total cost excluding fuel has been
    R23393 so far.

    Average cost per month R780 (30 months)
    Last edited by allandell; 2021/04/29 at 03:35 PM.


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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Are you lot giving maintenance costs or fuel costs.
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Quote Originally Posted by EttiennedK View Post

    Purchase price:

    R25 000. (Road worthy included)
    How on earth??
    You cant even buy a mountain bike for that these days.
    Thats amazing
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Quote Originally Posted by EttiennedK View Post
    Following on to the "Is it possible to buy a usable 4x4 with a R40k budget?" thread and having purchased such a vehicle at the beginning of February, I thought I'll start a thread on the actual monthly and total cost of running it over a period of time. As I do as much as possible of the maintenance and repairs myself, labor costs will only be included if and when the vehicle goes to a workshop. Cost of fuel is excluded.

    Vehicle:

    1998 Land Rover Discovery 300Tdi ES. 345 000km.

    Purchase price:

    R25 000. (Road worthy included)

    Cost of repairs, maintenance and upgrades:

    1. Fitted TerraFirma shocks - R5000.00
    2. LBB engine monitor - R2000.00
    3. Fuel lift pump - R650.00
    4. Brake Booster - R1750.00
    5. 4 Glow plugs - R343.85
    6. 2 Flexible brake hoses - R238.50
    7. All filters - R454.25
    8. Oil - R612.50
    9. Rear shock absorber mounting - R172.50.
    10. Gear lever bush - R109.00
    11. Install electrical plugs for fridge etc. - R1277.70
    12. Hub dust cap - R100.00

    TOTAL: R12718.30Total cost since purchase: R12718.30


    Average monthly cost since purchase (3 months) R4239.43
    Considering that the shocks and fridge set-up are "optional", the cost so far is very reasonable. Hopefully you will get many kms

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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Quote Originally Posted by hunter26 View Post
    Are you lot giving maintenance costs or fuel costs.
    Mine are all maintenance costs given here. My car does run thirsty and I have done about 20k odd so far.


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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Quote Originally Posted by hunter26 View Post
    Are you lot giving maintenance costs or fuel costs.
    Hunter, I specifically excluded fuel cost
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Gees, I'm feeling kinda guilty about my costs. Since last October I have done an oil change with filter at around R500, and 4 fuel filters at R45 each. Its a bit heavy on fuel filters due to soot floculation in the black diesel when mixed with cooking oil. That is over a run time of around 600 hours. I don't do kilometers as my 4x4 spends most its time in low range in deep sand and on gravel roads.
    A set of ball joints on the steering linkage at R440.
    500ml bottle of ATF to top up the steering fluid due to a slow leak.
    2 x electrical spade connectors on the fuel pickup after the cable got ripped off by some bushes I went through and got caught up under the car.

    Due for an oil change in around 80 hours. Will be getting a filter at R239 and a 5L oil at R240 next week. June I need to replace the air filter for good measure as it has around 40k km on it now.

    Need to replace the front number plate that is laying in the bush somewhere on the farm after it went missing on a game drive two weeks back.

    Cost over past seven months around R1200. So about R180 a month.
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    How on earth??
    You cant even buy a mountain bike for that these days.
    Thats amazing
    People under estimate the prices on the Discoverys
    Friend of mine bought a running Disco 1 300TDI for R20 000
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Quote Originally Posted by fransjcloete View Post
    People under estimate the prices on the Discoverys
    Friend of mine bought a running Disco 1 300TDI for R20 000
    The mountain bike is better..
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    There's a plethora of post on the subject of owning, running and/or maintaining an older vehicle on the forum, so I thought I'll keep adding the cost of whatever I spend on the car to the original post. It might be interesting to someone to see what the actual cost is over the long term.

    Reason for expenditure, total cost and average cost will be stated in each new post.

    The LBB started screaming at me on Tuesday, warning that the car was overheating. Expansion tank was empty. Let the engine cool down and added water. By process of elimination figured out the thermostat was stuck. Removed it, drove hone and ordered a new one.

    TOTAL cost since purchase: R13255.00


    Average monthly maintenance cost since purchase (3.5 months) R3787.14
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    My IO cost R 800 for its annual service of oil and filters- although its only done 3000km total km is 264K

    also replaced front sway bar links and sway bar bushes- in the last 12 months which cost around R 2000 including courier costs and customs duties ( ordered online from Singapore)

    Tyres will be needed before year end- current BfG' A/T's although still have decent thread are almost 9 years old so its time.


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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Ran out of rags to wipe oil off my hands when tinkering.

    Bag of rags from Co-Op: R98.47

    TOTAL cost since purchase: R13353.47


    Average monthly maintenance cost since purchase (4 months) R3338.37
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    ... when I bought my RR Classic many
    years ago a boffin spannerman just told me:
    " ... just keep fixing and improving the car
    as necessary and you will find after about
    3 years you'll find theres little else to do ... '
    ... and thats exactly what happened , vehicle
    continued on then for many years after ... only minor occasional attention required though guy called Eckkie in Selby regularly serviced for me,
    only used original / OEM parts for the important stuff , 2nd hand, aftermarket and pirate stuff for the rest.

    Looking back , car was a definite bargain,
    and a pleasure over big mileage.
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Yes, veryinteresting thread, and not necessarilly brand specific.
    The option being weighed up here, if I am correct, is either spending R 3 - 5 hundred thou on a new 4x4 whatever with factory warranty etc.
    OR:
    Buy a used (and maybe abused) vehicle for R 40 K or less.

    From own experience: (NO! I never bought a new 4x4), but did other bakkies, cars etc. in the long past.
    So:
    Buying used carries large risk which sometimes pays off and sometimes not.

    In our case we were very fortunate in having substantial support from THIS forum when the shyte actually hit the fan.
    However, if I include the forum contribution as though we had carried those costs ourselves, then:

    Now almost 23 year old Isuzu 2.80 DT D/C applies. (Yes it did cost us a lot more than R 40 K to buy.)
    Taking that into account though, and I do not remember all the bits, but certainly the major ones.

    Points to consider:
    1. Vehicle value very materially affects insurance premiums.
    2. Depreciation on a new vehicle is massive in comparison to (let's say) a 8 or 10 year old used one.
    3. Regular servicing, oil changes, filters, brake pads, hoses, belts, seals, tyres etc are unlikely to to favour the new vs the old vehicle. If anything I think it costs more on a new (modern) vehicle due to the increased level of complication. Think sensors, EMS, electronics generally.
    4. In both cases a simple overheat situation could cause serious engine issues, although less likely in a new vehicle one would think. Then maybe the OEM warranty would kick in.
    5. Labour rates are most likely not too different and I think that OP excluded labour costs anyway.

    So, just from my side:
    I am mechanically and especially electrically disadvantaged although can handle most basic stuff.
    In most cases my old vehicle has been serviced and repaired as needed by workshops, so labour cost is included in my observation.

    I seriously and honestly believe that it is cheaper to buy a good used 4x4 instead of a new one, and even more so if you are buying at anything under R 100 K or so.

    Unfortunately I do not have figures to substantiate this but: Would I do the same (Even without forum assistence) ? An unqualified YES.

    So now it is only a question of inconvinience during breakdowns (will occur some time or another) ....
    However, I have seen many a "new" 4x4 on top of a lowbed recovery truck due to mechanical, sensor or electical failure. No body damage = no accident.

    So, Ja, as "they" like to say .....

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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    I've bought a caravan, so I thought doing some work on the cooling system might be a good idea. Decided to change the timing belt at the same time.

    TOTAL cost prior to this: R13353.47


    1. Timing belt kit: R1950.00
    2. Outer timing belt oil deal: R252.00
    3. Inner timing belt oil seal: R94.50
    4. Camshaft seal: R114.00
    5. O-ring: R17.50
    6. Welsh plugs: R475.00
    7. Manifold gasket: R173.00
    8. Metal gasket: R35.00
    9. Water pump: R444.00
    10. Antifreeze: R170.00


    TOTAL cost since purchase: R17078.47


    Average monthly maintenance cost since purchase (5.5 months) R3105.18
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    At this stage in my financial life, I'd rather buy a decent, class leading old 4x4 and spend some money every month keeping it on the road than locking myself into a 6 year payment regime where I can only liquidize the asset after several years without significant loss.

    To replace the Wrangler now is R750k MINIMUM.

    R15k per month for 60 months. EXCLUDING INSURANCE.

    R1.2m? Excluding fuel and tyres?
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Howsit Guys I can also comment on this
    I bought my 2004 Colt trailbuster 4x4 for 40K

    So far what i have spent on it :
    Starter Solenoid : 525
    Fuses : 30
    Bendix : 280
    Clutch and ring gear : 1255
    Flywheel : 1500
    Shocks : 1100
    Seals : 200
    New Radiator : 800
    Spark Plugs : 200
    Starter Motor : 1200

    total so far : R5590

    I have had it for almost 3 months, but these were all known problems. So not too bad.
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Great thread Etienne. Will do the math on my truck eventually, I am some how apprehensive about the outcome.
    This is such a valuable thread. To make this more meaningful, you have to explain your thought processes for:
    1. The make, model and year you bought.
    2. What technical aspects are crucial when taking your decision.
    Following with interest.
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    Default Re: Cost of owning a 4x4 that cost less than R40K

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    How on earth??
    You cant even buy a mountain bike for that these days.
    Thats amazing
    Is amazing. Cheapest one on Autotrader is R200k.
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