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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Here's my stash. At any point in time the wood I am using is 2-3 years old. This batch bought from a vendor in Hillcrest at R25.00 a bag.

    Probably about 100 - 150 bags of wood there. Difficult to see. Wood in the shade under the concrete seats.

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    Winter is coming. My stash.

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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    After the Carte Blanch report, I have vowed not buy from those okes again. And now I am over sensitive. Went hunting last week and drove past wood sellers in Limpopo - Modimolle area. Just couldn't get myself to stop although I know those farmers are not likely to tolerate this type of illegal activity.
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    Winter is coming. My stash.

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    Eish, daai groen hout gaan eers volgende winter bruikbaar wees.
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    Nee wat.
    As die vuur hoog brand vat hulle maklik.
    Doen dit gereeld.
    Maak vuur met droë hout en dan volg die twee week gesnyde peer stompies.
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    Lets just Clarify some things. This thread is about indigenous wood poached from the Magalies biosphere and the and the destruction of the biosphere. Now, IIRC all indigenous wood is protected by the various provincial conservation ordinances, so theoretically all indigenous wood sold and transported without a legal permit is illegal.

    However, a lot of wood is harvested from private farm which was encroached by trees like sekelbos when the veld was not managed correctly. Most landowners now cut and bag or has someone sourcing it for the city markets. These trees include, sekelbos, swarthaak, Rooibos, Mopani ans some others and most of the wood from Limpopo falls within this group. You often see truckloads of bagged wood from Limpopo travelling to the cities and other provinces. I am not clued up on the "kameeldoring" from Namibia though and how "legit" that is.

    Granted the situation can be exploited. The difficulty lies in determining what the source is.

    The roadside wood along Bela Bela and Nylstroom is dodgy, generally not ant of the above species and usually not dry, avoid.
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    I'm frequently on the forum and I've only seen this today.

    Good thread Ian, please keep bumping it and I will as well.

    I've stopped using wood to braai for exactly this reason, because I don't know whether it is legit. That and proper wood is expensive.

    I do however enjoy my "mors hout" which is for atmosphere and heat during winter which is Black Wattle, an invasive species.

    This I buy by the trailer full from a guy that I believe has a legitimate operation in that he sells proper wood to, but I won't buy that because I cannot be sure.

    So it has been charcoal for the past 11 years since moving back to the city.

    I am ashamed to say this but in the Musina area at the time (2002 - 2010), we were able to buy Hardekool at R4-R6 a bag and treated it as morshout - also purchased from local communities next to the road.

    I have luckily wizened up in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swannie1960 View Post
    Eish, daai groen hout gaan eers volgende winter bruikbaar wees.
    Ek maak rivier skoon. Alles aliens.
    Daar is jonger bome, wat die groen hout is, en dan tussen die groeiende bome, bome wat dood gebrand het 3 jaar terug. Dit is die droe hoop. Ek maak van alles hout, of chips. Teen tyd wat droe hout op is, is groen hout ook droog. Maar n jaar is meer as genoeg tyd om uit te droog.
    Gelukkig is daar nog bwrge se hout. Moet nou maar solank begin om in 50kg kunsmis sakke te pak vir kampers.
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    Happy Friday everyone!

    Remember to not buy the wood. And tell your friends too!!

    I saw this morning the bastards were unloading literal truck loads next to the road in prep for the weekend
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Happy Friday everyone!

    Remember to not buy the wood. And tell your friends too!!

    I saw this morning the bastards were unloading literal truck loads next to the road in prep for the weekend
    Thanks Graham. Was about to do the generic thread bump for the weekend, but I see you beat me to it.

    To every body else: Happy Friday. If you're cruising through Harties, don't buy the wood next to the road.
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    Its Friday again. I thought this day would never come this week!

    Remember, dont touch the rubbish being sold on the side of the road in harties! Yes its cheap, but, ignoring the fact that its stolen, its terrible burning wood anyway. I defy anyone to have a proper braai on this wood.
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    Was thinking I should drive around Harties taking photos of the GP guys buying wood and post the pics here.........
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    Was thinking I should drive around Harties taking photos of the GP guys buying wood and post the pics here.........
    I'll bet they all drive Toyotas
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    I'll bet they all drive Toyotas
    Nope. Saw a D4 with a trailer last week. Filling up with R10 wood. Should have snapped a pic.
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Its Friday again. I thought this day would never come this week!

    Remember, dont touch the rubbish being sold on the side of the road in harties! Yes its cheap, but, ignoring the fact that its stolen, its terrible burning wood anyway. I defy anyone to have a proper braai on this wood.
    And when you are in the Lowveld dont buy avo's from next to the road its stolen from your brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    Nope. Saw a D4 with a trailer last week. Filling up with R10 wood. Should have snapped a crank .
    Fixed. But on a serious note. I only found this thread now. I got family on a farm where i get wood from
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    I probably left this too late today. However, since people can travel again at the moment, it is probably pertinent to post a reminder. Please do not buy wood next to the road in Hartbeespoort.

    Thanks muchly. Travel safe.
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    Thank you Ian,
    If you hadn’t bumped up this post I would be non the wiser of this situation.
    I don’t watch Carte Blance at all.
    I have however been buying wood from this guy Louis who sources his wood from Namibia and elsewhere.
    R100 a bag for 20kgs



    Any thoughts on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by royjacobs View Post
    Thank you Ian,
    If you hadn’t bumped up this post I would be non the wiser of this situation.
    I don’t watch Carte Blance at all.
    I have however been buying wood from this guy Louis who sources his wood from Namibia and elsewhere.
    R100 a bag for 20kgs



    Any thoughts on this?
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    Sorry Roy - I cannot help you with that. I don't know the guy. Chat with him perhaps ?
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    Default Re: Wood in Hartbeespoort - Don't Buy Next to the Road

    My generic Friday thread-bump. If you're travelling through Harties this weekend, please don't buy wood next to the road.

    Enjoy the weekend.
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