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    Default 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Hi
    I stopped looking at the Prado 120 and rather decided to trade in my car and go for something newer.

    Currently my choices are
    2019 ford XLT 4x4 with the 10 speed auto.
    Obviously nice bells and whistles
    Has canopy on

    Or

    New Isuzu 250 Xrider 4x4 manual
    Only extra is the infotainment is a touch screen
    Can't stand those ugly OEM units


    Both costs more or less the same

    I still need to test drive the X rider.

    My initial thatghts ar that the the Ford will give the more car like feel, but i am a bit concerned about the longevity/ reliabilty of the 2 litre motor. Havent heard anything yet ,but it did not prove itself yet.

    Were the Isuzu's 250 motor is known for its reliabilty. Also may not be as refined though.





    The idea is that this is something I am planning on having for a looooooong time

    Any thought or ideas will be appreciated


    PS I am selling my Audi a4 and this will be my primary vehicle.
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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Based on your statement that you want something for a long time, I'd choose the Isuzu; its a tractor compared to the Ranger but their long term reliability and longevity is proven.

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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Horses for courses.

    What do you intend to use it for? As a daily driver/overland vehicle/workhorse?
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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Quote Originally Posted by Drifter4x4 View Post
    Based on your statement that you want something for a long time, I'd choose the Isuzu; its a tractor compared to the Ranger but their long term reliability and longevity is proven.
    I will always favour the Isuzu because its a vehicle I know.

    But I think it is a bit unfair to assume it will outlast the Ford. The 2lt and 10speed auto is a good combination depending on what your requirements are. There is no reason why the Ford will not be able to last as long as the Isuzu.
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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    Horses for courses.

    What do you intend to use it for? As a daily driver/overland vehicle/workhorse?

    Mainly as a daily and weekend camping trip, maybe a move a few loads of wood here and there. Nothing heavy for now
    And i would like to start doing all the rough stuff and ovelanding down the line as well.

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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    I will always favour the Isuzu because its a vehicle I know.

    But I think it is a bit unfair to assume it will outlast the Ford. The 2lt and 10speed auto is a good combination depending on what your requirements are. There is no reason why the Ford will not be able to last as long as the Isuzu.
    True
    but what worries me is the Ford has 17000km. When i test drove it after breaking , just before the nose lifts it feels like it has a shudder. Also the idling felt a bit irregular. It is still unfder warrentee and the ford dealer did say it still needs to go to the workshop, has not yet been there since they got it in. Also the bumper's alignment is out.
    They said they will fix everything though.

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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Quote Originally Posted by DoggKnight View Post
    True
    but what worries me is the Ford has 17000km. When i test drove it after breaking , just before the nose lifts it feels like it has a shudder. Also the idling felt a bit irregular. It is still unfder warrentee and the ford dealer did say it still needs to go to the workshop, has not yet been there since they got it in. Also the bumper's alignment is out.
    They said they will fix everything though.
    Mate, trust your gut. If something feels off - walk away.

    The Isuzu is by no means a 2nd rate (or choice) vehicle.
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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Just my personal choice. I'd go for the Isuzu.
    There is never a right time to do the wrong thing and never a wrong time to do the right thing!

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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    As twyfel stap weg Isuzu baie goeie keude hulle enjins het nie n einde nie

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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Quote Originally Posted by DoggKnight View Post
    True
    but what worries me is the Ford has 17000km. When i test drove it after breaking , just before the nose lifts it feels like it has a shudder. Also the idling felt a bit irregular. It is still unfder warrentee and the ford dealer did say it still needs to go to the workshop, has not yet been there since they got it in. Also the bumper's alignment is out.
    They said they will fix everything though.
    That would make me walk far away from that Ford.
    Look for another one, there should be plenty available on the market.

    Personally I would go with Isuzu rather than Ford.
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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    I am leaning towards the isuzu
    better partsbin pricing
    better fuel economy.
    seems to have a good resale
    also brand spanking new.

    less bells and whistles
    less power
    less popular (meaning less aftermarket stuff)
    less refined
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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Seeing that you looked at a prado and now at a bakkie, do you need a bakkie or a suv? (Loadbin or more space inside with suv? 5 or 7 seats? etc?)

    Does it need to be 4x4? (Coming from a A4 audi)
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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Quote Originally Posted by JacoE View Post
    Seeing that you looked at a prado and now at a bakkie, do you need a bakkie or a suv? (Loadbin or more space inside with suv? 5 or 7 seats? etc?)

    Does it need to be 4x4? (Coming from a A4 audi)
    A bakkie would be ideal. The Prado was more of a bang for buck type of thing.
    THe prado option is keeping my car and having the prado as a second vehicle.

    5 seater is fine for me
    A SUV can do what i nee it for but is not really ideal.

    I have my own Valet centre. So occationally i have to drive away sand ( from chassis cleaning), compressor here and there for a service. Also buying and selling wood on the side ( small quantities though).....more in the line of come clean the car for the weekend ....here is some wood if you are going to braai.


    always had bakkie or SUV in the stable ontil recently.......missing the veristilty and capability


    4x4......... well i like camping and a 4x2 woud do the job but i like to have the option for tackleing the more remote stuff
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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Get a FJ cruiser. According to some members you can use it as a bakkie
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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Quote Originally Posted by Die Uwe View Post
    Get a FJ cruiser. According to some members you can use it as a bakkie


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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    When you buy a new car, the obvious argument is the immediate depreciation of value, so with a good, late model second hand vehicle you normally get more value for money.

    That said, if you want to keep it for a long time, that may not be as important as having the full benefit of factory warranty and service plan.

    So, I think the new Isuzu will be better for you, but in the end, I echo the advice somewhere else on this forum, go drive the two (I presume you did) as close as you can timewise and choose the one you want most... In preparation, list the features of both bakkies next to each other and make a value system, such as warranty, most important, looks, least important, drive quality, important, etc. In that way you can see at least on paper which one should be favoured, then go and drive and take the one you want to spend years in.

    Good luck, and I hope whatever you choose will bring you many years of good service!
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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Quote Originally Posted by Die Uwe View Post
    Get a FJ cruiser. According to some members you can use it as a bakkie

    had a look at those as well
    but the pending fuel price increase is scaring me off a bit.

    there is a very nice one in Hatfield.

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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    Quote Originally Posted by Pointer41 View Post
    When you buy a new car, the obvious argument is the immediate depreciation of value, so with a good, late model second hand vehicle you normally get more value for money.

    That said, if you want to keep it for a long time, that may not be as important as having the full benefit of factory warranty and service plan.

    So, I think the new Isuzu will be better for you, but in the end, I echo the advice somewhere else on this forum, go drive the two (I presume you did) as close as you can timewise and choose the one you want most... In preparation, list the features of both bakkies next to each other and make a value system, such as warranty, most important, looks, least important, drive quality, important, etc. In that way you can see at least on paper which one should be favoured, then go and drive and take the one you want to spend years in.

    Good luck, and I hope whatever you choose will bring you many years of good service!


    thanx the ranger is 1 year old and marked down
    R130k from the new one ....it also has a canopy...only 2.5 years left on warrentee

    With the Isuzu i got a 30k discount comes with a 5 year warrentee


    Problem is i always plan to keep vehicles long but usually ends up selling them way to soon.....2-3years
    but i dont think the finances will allow me this anymore

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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    For daily driving I'd say Ranger, especially if its been well specced, but my advice would be to go test drive a different but similar Ranger and see if the worries you have over this one are specific to that vehicle or if they all feel the same to you (like is that shudder something all the 10spds do and are the panel gaps just a Ford thing)

    Also get insurance quotes, Isuzu might well save you enough to sway you

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    Default Re: 2020 Ford XLT or New 250 Isuzu X Rider

    My opinion - where the Isuzu may lack in comfort on the tar, it really does make up for it on gravel. The engines are much more refined in the new DMAX compared to the early Dteq engines.

    My Isuzu is now 10 years old, still no rattles and a solid drive on the dirt. Resale value is very good - my retail value has gone up in the last year... just keep in mind the new DMAX will probably be here within the next year and will be in a different class compared to the current Isuzu models. I would look at a almost new X Rider instead of buying new so that you can trade for a new one IF you feel like it... :-)

    EDIT - I see you are in Malmesbury - I have had exceptional service from Perdeberg Motors so you also have a solid dealership next-door!
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